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« on: May 18, 2024, 12:07:36 PM »

ChatGPT can talk, but OpenAI employees sure can’t
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Questions arose immediately: Were they forced out? Is this delayed fallout of Altman’s brief firing last fall? Are they resigning in protest of some secret and dangerous new OpenAI project? Speculation filled the void because no one who had once worked at OpenAI was talking.

It turns out there’s a very clear reason for that. I have seen the extremely restrictive off-boarding agreement that contains nondisclosure and non-disparagement provisions former OpenAI employees are subject to. It forbids them, for the rest of their lives, from criticizing their former employer. Even acknowledging that the NDA exists is a violation of it.

If a departing employee declines to sign the document, or if they violate it, they can lose all vested equity they earned during their time at the company, which is likely worth millions of dollars. One former employee, Daniel Kokotajlo, who posted that he quit OpenAI “due to losing confidence that it would behave responsibly around the time of AGI,” has confirmed publicly that he had to surrender what would have likely turned out to be a huge sum of money in order to quit without signing the document.
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« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2024, 12:11:23 PM »

ChatGPT can talk, but OpenAI employees sure can’t
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Questions arose immediately: Were they forced out? Is this delayed fallout of Altman’s brief firing last fall? Are they resigning in protest of some secret and dangerous new OpenAI project? Speculation filled the void because no one who had once worked at OpenAI was talking.

It turns out there’s a very clear reason for that. I have seen the extremely restrictive off-boarding agreement that contains nondisclosure and non-disparagement provisions former OpenAI employees are subject to. It forbids them, for the rest of their lives, from criticizing their former employer. Even acknowledging that the NDA exists is a violation of it.

If a departing employee declines to sign the document, or if they violate it, they can lose all vested equity they earned during their time at the company, which is likely worth millions of dollars. One former employee, Daniel Kokotajlo, who posted that he quit OpenAI “due to losing confidence that it would behave responsibly around the time of AGI,” has confirmed publicly that he had to surrender what would have likely turned out to be a huge sum of money in order to quit without signing the document.


Weka US government. They pass a law banning such NDA or ban OpenAI unless they are lifted. If they refuse or oppose it in any way, heavily fine the real owner, Microsoft.
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« Reply #2 on: May 18, 2024, 01:06:28 PM »

Purge the bedwetters. Imagine being such a pussy you get scared of a chatbot.
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« Reply #3 on: May 18, 2024, 02:21:42 PM »

Purge the bedwetters. Imagine being such a pussy you get scared of a chatbot.

A chatbot? Give it a few years and it will decide if you qualify for a mortgage, how you should be paid, whether you get a job or whether you did commit a crime. It will decide your life for you, and you will have no recourse, even if it wrong or mistaken.
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« Reply #4 on: May 18, 2024, 03:07:55 PM »

Purge the bedwetters. Imagine being such a pussy you get scared of a chatbot.

A chatbot? Give it a few years and it will decide if you qualify for a mortgage, how you should be paid, whether you get a job or whether you did commit a crime. It will decide your life for you, and you will have no recourse, even if it wrong or mistaken.

A lot of dumb people still don't realize how many aspects of our lives are going to have chatbots forced into them. People like Sam Altman dream of a future in which all big decisions are made "perfectly" by his chatbot that thinks it's safe to cook eggs in the microwave. And you're right, they want it involved in law enforcement too. Google the wrong thing and all of a sudden the computer decides you should be on the no fly list.
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« Reply #5 on: May 18, 2024, 04:18:53 PM »

That is perfectly normal.

If I get shares or employee options with a company, they are subject to a rolling NDA following the end of contract.

It's because former employees go to forums and online and piss and moan endlessly.

The online World then creates a false narrative of the business activities.
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