Trump needs to be targeting Wisconsin, NC, PA, GA, Florida heavily
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« on: May 17, 2024, 02:41:51 AM »

You sell the message of jobs and inflation and being left behind in rural / white Wisconsin.

You go to urban Wisconsin and sell Democrats are taking you for granted.

You go to the Muslim areas of Wisconsin and make a play for being the peace candidate, as opposed to "GENOCIDE JOE."

PA and NC, hit the nuts and bolts issues - jobs. Inflation. Food prices. Gas prices. Rents. Joe may be the union President but what is your union doing for you? AI is taking away jobs, and is gonna take away more jobs - what's Biden doing about it? Nothing.

Florida, shore up the Cuban vote. Shore up the Biden is abandoning you message. Shore up the message of Biden wants to replace you at your jobs with undocumented workers. Hit central and north and rural Florida. Hit them with your family is struggling while undocumented migrants are getting their rents paid for. I'm gonna bring us back to the glory days of 2017-2019. I'm gonna lower your taxes. I'm gonna build a new economy that provides you and your family jobs and lower prices.

Trump has a genuine path to around 271-279 EV's. The ads, the speeches practically write themselves. You portray Joe as asleep at the wheel - America is a drifting ship at sea with no captain while working class Americans and middle class Americans are suffering. Paint Joe both as not only out of touch but also the modern day Marie Antoinette - not only is he out of touch, he doesn't care.

Trump could actually make a coalition of disenchanted young left, unemployed college voters, white and ethnic working class, and even grab some Latinos and Black communities that haven't done well in the past 4 years. It would be a flimsy coalition ofc but enough to carry him over 270. Grab the working class whites in the rural areas and suburbs and the working class non-whites in urban areas.

Like Christ, how is this strategy not self-evident to Trump's people? I feel this is their election to lose and a lot of these takes, in terms of strategy, seem self evident, but I don't see them pursuing it.
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« Reply #1 on: May 17, 2024, 03:49:55 AM »

Don't give him any advice.

Trump's campaign being over-confident and incompetent is necessary for Biden to have a chance.
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« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2024, 05:09:49 AM »

He's already gonna win FL
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« Reply #3 on: May 17, 2024, 08:52:01 AM »

FL, maybe a little to help down ballot folks, NC, more than FL, but he is going to win in easy. WI and PA, yes, lots of time should be spent there
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« Reply #4 on: May 17, 2024, 08:56:19 AM »

FL, maybe a little to help down ballot folks, NC, more than FL, but he is going to win in easy. WI and PA, yes, lots of time should be spent there


We outvoted Rs in PA 900/700K votes in the primary and we aren't gonna lose WI with Baldwin up 12 in a QU poll
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« Reply #5 on: May 17, 2024, 09:21:30 AM »

Are you from 2012? FL is solid Red now, NC is lean R at a minimum this cycle. Where are you getting that Trump only has a 271-279 ceiling? It’s more realistically above 300 at this point.
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« Reply #6 on: May 17, 2024, 10:17:18 AM »

Are you from 2012? FL is solid Red now, NC is lean R at a minimum this cycle. Where are you getting that Trump only has a 271-279 ceiling? It’s more realistically above 300 at this point.

Lol stop dreaming
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« Reply #7 on: May 17, 2024, 10:42:54 AM »

Don't give him any advice.

Trump's campaign being over-confident and incompetent is necessary for Biden to have a chance.

Not like they'll follow this forum. If they are going to be over-confident, they aren't gonna bother to track this forum lol.
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« Reply #8 on: May 17, 2024, 10:53:25 AM »

Are you from 2012? FL is solid Red now, NC is lean R at a minimum this cycle. Where are you getting that Trump only has a 271-279 ceiling? It’s more realistically above 300 at this point.

Lol stop dreaming
I’m looking at reality. You’re the dreamer here.
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« Reply #9 on: May 17, 2024, 11:29:58 AM »

You sell the message of jobs and inflation and being left behind in rural / white Wisconsin.

You go to urban Wisconsin and sell Democrats are taking you for granted.

You go to the Muslim areas of Wisconsin and make a play for being the peace candidate, as opposed to "GENOCIDE JOE."

PA and NC, hit the nuts and bolts issues - jobs. Inflation. Food prices. Gas prices. Rents. Joe may be the union President but what is your union doing for you? AI is taking away jobs, and is gonna take away more jobs - what's Biden doing about it? Nothing.

Florida, shore up the Cuban vote. Shore up the Biden is abandoning you message. Shore up the message of Biden wants to replace you at your jobs with undocumented workers. Hit central and north and rural Florida. Hit them with your family is struggling while undocumented migrants are getting their rents paid for. I'm gonna bring us back to the glory days of 2017-2019. I'm gonna lower your taxes. I'm gonna build a new economy that provides you and your family jobs and lower prices.

Trump has a genuine path to around 271-279 EV's. The ads, the speeches practically write themselves. You portray Joe as asleep at the wheel - America is a drifting ship at sea with no captain while working class Americans and middle class Americans are suffering. Paint Joe both as not only out of touch but also the modern day Marie Antoinette - not only is he out of touch, he doesn't care.

Trump could actually make a coalition of disenchanted young left, unemployed college voters, white and ethnic working class, and even grab some Latinos and Black communities that haven't done well in the past 4 years. It would be a flimsy coalition ofc but enough to carry him over 270. Grab the working class whites in the rural areas and suburbs and the working class non-whites in urban areas.

Like Christ, how is this strategy not self-evident to Trump's people? I feel this is their election to lose and a lot of these takes, in terms of strategy, seem self evident, but I don't see them pursuing it.

1. So you're saying he should run a White supremacist message? He's already doing that.

2. "OOH LORDY, MASSA JOE IS TAKING YOU BLACKS FOR GRANTED, VOTE FOR UNCLE TRUMP 'CAUSE HE VOTED FOR NEGRO WOMAN!". Girl, please.

3. He's for killing the entire Palestinian population in Gaza so he can build a new resort.

4. Unless Trump is proposing price controls there is nothing the President can do about that.

Lastly, the senile diaper wearing old clown doesn't have the money to run a campaign. By the time Biden gets done burying him in ads he'll be down to driving around with a bullhorn trying to get his message out.
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« Reply #10 on: May 17, 2024, 11:30:33 AM »

Are you from 2012? FL is solid Red now, NC is lean R at a minimum this cycle. Where are you getting that Trump only has a 271-279 ceiling? It’s more realistically above 300 at this point.

Lol stop dreaming
I’m looking at reality. You’re the dreamer here.

He is in his own reality… there is no hope..
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« Reply #11 on: May 17, 2024, 11:41:23 AM »

Are you from 2012? FL is solid Red now, NC is lean R at a minimum this cycle. Where are you getting that Trump only has a 271-279 ceiling? It’s more realistically above 300 at this point.

Lol stop dreaming
I’m looking at reality. You’re the dreamer here.

He is in his own reality… there is no hope..


When has the Rs won a natl race 2016
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« Reply #12 on: May 17, 2024, 01:56:16 PM »

Are you from 2012? FL is solid Red now, NC is lean R at a minimum this cycle. Where are you getting that Trump only has a 271-279 ceiling? It’s more realistically above 300 at this point.

Lol stop dreaming
I’m looking at reality. You’re the dreamer here.

He is in his own reality… there is no hope..


When has the Rs won a natl race 2016

And? Things can change.
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« Reply #13 on: May 17, 2024, 03:20:50 PM »

Yeah Trump should totally spend his money on Florida. It’s not like he has it in the bag or anything.
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« Reply #14 on: May 17, 2024, 03:22:56 PM »

Yeah Trump should totally spend his money on Florida. It’s not like he has it in the bag or anything.

Can't hurt to invest in a state with a load of EC votes regardless. A politician should never take any state for granted. Hillary learned that mistake the hard way in 2016. Just because a state has trended X or Y way for however long doesn't mean it will 100% of the time. You gotta water your garden if you want to keep it healthy.
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« Reply #15 on: May 17, 2024, 03:46:47 PM »

Are you from 2012? FL is solid Red now, NC is lean R at a minimum this cycle. Where are you getting that Trump only has a 271-279 ceiling? It’s more realistically above 300 at this point.

Lol stop dreaming
I’m looking at reality. You’re the dreamer here.

He is in his own reality… there is no hope..


It’s pointless to argue with hacks lol.
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« Reply #16 on: May 17, 2024, 05:59:31 PM »

You mean to tell me that Trump needs to be targeting the states that were the closest last election? Nonsense.
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« Reply #17 on: May 17, 2024, 06:24:40 PM »

Yeah Trump should totally spend his money on Florida. It’s not like he has it in the bag or anything.

Can't hurt to invest in a state with a load of EC votes regardless. A politician should never take any state for granted. Hillary learned that mistake the hard way in 2016. Just because a state has trended X or Y way for however long doesn't mean it will 100% of the time. You gotta water your garden if you want to keep it healthy.

Hillary was right to target FL Murphy was the fav until Rubio jumped back in, right now Scott appears to be the maverick because he passed red flag laws, FL is outta play and so is TX it's a 319 map
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« Reply #18 on: May 18, 2024, 05:20:07 AM »

Can't hurt to invest in a state worth a load of EC votes regardless. A politician should never take any state for granted. Hillary learned that mistake the hard way in 2016. You gotta water your garden if you want to keep it healthy.

I agree, Biden should camp out in California from now until November.
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« Reply #19 on: May 18, 2024, 03:25:54 PM »


This, and honestly NC isn't gonna flip this year, either (if it is flipping then Biden's locked in for victory anyway).

But Trump needs to focus on the Midwest Trio, and arguably focus more on AZ than GA. I get the feeling that there are persuadable voters (Republicans, maybe, who didn't vote for Trump in 2020 but aren't fans of Biden) lurking in the Maricopa County suburbs, while GA is more polarized.
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« Reply #20 on: May 19, 2024, 08:26:16 AM »

Biden should not be targeting FL
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« Reply #21 on: May 19, 2024, 10:39:04 AM »

He should spend soem miney and made some visits in NC. Nothing in FL.
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