Rep. Jasmine Crockett on MTG: "bleach blonde bad built butch body"

[DrScholl]

Not a Trump supporter, a registered Democrat, but also a realist.

Yeah, and I am Brad Pitt's more handsome brother.

You can be a Democrat and a Trump supporter. West Virginia is full of them.

[Obama24]

Not a Trump supporter, a registered Democrat, but also a realist.

Yeah, and I am Brad Pitt's more handsome brother.

You can be a Democrat and a Trump supporter. West Virginia is full of them.

But I'm neither a Trump supporter, nor in West Virginia. I'm in New York, where my political affiliation really does not typically matter yet I've chosen to be a Democrat since I was 18

Most Trump supporters would not want Obama to be able to run this year.

Most Trump supporters would not wish Trump was not running or view Trump as guilty of all, or most, of the crimes he has been charged with.

Most Trump supporters would not see Trump as the singularly most destructive figure in modern American history, or see him as the singular most destructive element in our society since the Civil War.

Most Trump supporters want Trump to have a second term. I don't. I wish he'd go away.

But I also realize he and the divided Republic he helped create are facts of life whether I like them or not. I also recognize that even if imprisoned his ideology isn't going away any time soon. I also recognize that per the polls and per the nation's mood with regard to the economy, he is the favorite to win at the present time.

You can be cognizant of unpleasant realities, yet not support them or their cause.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

This was dumb and everyone involved came out of it looking like a childish moron

Maybe, but going the "high road" hasn't really helped the Democrats. MTG definitely deserves to be called out for her BS. Unfortunately the times so far have a changed and Republicans have no desire to actually return to having good faith discussions over issues as it should be and as you should expect from lawmakers (who should actually act as role models).

It’s not about the high road, it’s about messaging.  Congress devolving into argument about whether Crockett has false eyelashes or MTG bleaches her hair (which btw, who cares if either of those are true?  What are they, 12?  Get a thicker skin people ) while Comer uselessly flails around in a pathetically incompetent effort to restore order just made everyone look like obnoxious bickering children.  A big part of Democrats’ pitch is supposed to be “we’re the grown ups, you can trust us not to burn the House down even if you don’t love everything about us, whereas the other option is a rabid, lawless, deranged mob.” 

[Bleach Blonde Bad Built Butch Bodies for Biden]

whew, page four.

[Antonio the Sixth]

This is absolutely vile and uncalled for. Crockett must apologize to butch women for comparing them to MTG.

[ηєω ƒяσηтιєя]

That was a great line by Rep. Crockett! More people need to clap back at MTG.

Anyway, those of who are groaning about "decorum," "this is embarrassing," and whatnot need to stop.

The UK pretty much has weekly roast sessions in their parliament that are worse than this. Also, in certain other countries, some of their politicians regularly get into scuffles and fights in their houses of parliament. So some word-jabbing is nothing.

[Meclazine for Israel]

Bleach blonde bad built butch body is a killer line

Sounds like the title of one of those bad movies on Netflix where I happen upon it, read the summary, then decide I'm not interested and wonder why Netflix thought it was a "96% match" for me. 

The punch line should have been "but I watched it anyway" and "really liked it".

[Bleach Blonde Bad Built Butch Bodies for Biden]

BTW thank you to President Johnson for (intentionally or not) injecting some much-needed humor into this thread. It kinda makes me think of this Family Guy clip, just replace "Sweden" with "Germany":

[Fuzzy Bear Loves Christian Missionaries]

Both parties should be censured.  If they can be fined, they should be fined as well.  And the leadership of both parties should relegate them to less politicized committees.

That, of course will not solve the problem.  Nor is this the first time we have been here.  There were fist fights and a vicious caning in the Halls of Congress leading up to the Civil War, and this is part of the process that led up to secession and the Civil War.  (Many Congressmen were living in dumpy rooming houses and heavily drinking, as DC wasn't the swinging town it is now.) 

I do think that the people of North Georgia could elect a more effective advocate for their causes than MTG.  I would certainly support a primary challenger. 

[mjba257]

Both parties should be censured.  If they can be fined, they should be fined as well.  And the leadership of both parties should relegate them to less politicized committees.

That, of course will not solve the problem.  Nor is this the first time we have been here.  There were fist fights and a vicious caning in the Halls of Congress leading up to the Civil War, and this is part of the process that led up to secession and the Civil War.  (Many Congressmen were living in dumpy rooming houses and heavily drinking, as DC wasn't the swinging town it is now.) 

I do think that the people of North Georgia could elect a more effective advocate for their causes than MTG.  I would certainly support a primary challenger. 

Yup, all these idiots should be primaried. They come from such lopsided districts, they never have to worry about a general election challenge, so there is no downside to being as batsh**t crazy as possible. Take MTG's district in general, I know North Georgia is very conservative, but I have to believe there are enough principled conservatives who realize MTG is nothing but a trouble maker and hasn't accomplished anything to make their lives better. Certainly a more sensible, pragmatic conservative would make a better alternative that these ppl could get behind? I mean, voters in NC did that with Madison Cawthorne.

[Fuzzy Bear Loves Christian Missionaries]

It's a sad day when AOC, who's normally an idiot, properly pointed out that people shouldn't be trashing people for the appearance in Congress.

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

Greene and Crockett should have been ejected from the Committee. arguably AOC as well. Why were they not?

[Landslide Lyndon]

Greene and Crockett should have been ejected from the Committee. arguably AOC as well. Why were they not?

Because she asked the chairman to enforce the rules?
Then again judging by the way you treat a scofflaw like Trump I shouldn't be surprised.

[Brittain33]

Reminds me of when the pro-Zionist group demolished the encampment at UCLA. Whatever petty pleasure one might derive from this kind of counteraction doesn’t cancel out that it is wrong and unproductive at its core.

[Schiff for Senate]

This was dumb and everyone involved came out of it looking like a childish moron

Maybe, but going the "high road" hasn't really helped the Democrats. MTG definitely deserves to be called out for her BS. Unfortunately the times so far have a changed and Republicans have no desire to actually return to having good faith discussions over issues as it should be and as you should expect from lawmakers (who should actually act as role models).

It’s not about the high road, it’s about messaging.  Congress devolving into argument about whether Crockett has false eyelashes or MTG bleaches her hair (which btw, who cares if either of those are true?  What are they, 12?  Get a thicker skin people ) while Comer uselessly flails around in a pathetically incompetent effort to restore order just made everyone look like obnoxious bickering children.  A big part of Democrats’ pitch is supposed to be “we’re the grown ups, you can trust us not to burn the House down even if you don’t love everything about us, whereas the other option is a rabid, lawless, deranged mob.” 

This, too. Democrats are supposed to be the mature ones, and too bad if it involves biting our tongues sometimes. You can already see the both-siders making this a both sides thing. Mind you, there are enough low-info voters who actually think that simplistically, and if Crockett hadn't retaliated, there would be simply no way of both-siding. It would serve as another classic example of the GOP being classless and being unable to rein in its members. Now we're hearing the traditional both sides bullsh**t that "they both are wrong," and unfortunately, it's all a wash.

Both parties should be censured.  If they can be fined, they should be fined as well.  And the leadership of both parties should relegate them to less politicized committees.

That, of course will not solve the problem.  Nor is this the first time we have been here.  There were fist fights and a vicious caning in the Halls of Congress leading up to the Civil War, and this is part of the process that led up to secession and the Civil War.  (Many Congressmen were living in dumpy rooming houses and heavily drinking, as DC wasn't the swinging town it is now.) 

I do think that the people of North Georgia could elect a more effective advocate for their causes than MTG.  I would certainly support a primary challenger. 

It's funny you should mention this. I read The Field of Blood by Joanne Freeman a few years back and recently began perusing it again (will probably reread it when I have more time over the summer) - it details numerous instances of such antebellum bedlam. The parallels between the southern Democrats of the 1850s and the GOP of today, between the northerners of the 1850s and the Democrats of today, is quite striking.

[Fuzzy Bear Loves Christian Missionaries]

This was dumb and everyone involved came out of it looking like a childish moron

Maybe, but going the "high road" hasn't really helped the Democrats. MTG definitely deserves to be called out for her BS. Unfortunately the times so far have a changed and Republicans have no desire to actually return to having good faith discussions over issues as it should be and as you should expect from lawmakers (who should actually act as role models).

It’s not about the high road, it’s about messaging.  Congress devolving into argument about whether Crockett has false eyelashes or MTG bleaches her hair (which btw, who cares if either of those are true?  What are they, 12?  Get a thicker skin people ) while Comer uselessly flails around in a pathetically incompetent effort to restore order just made everyone look like obnoxious bickering children.  A big part of Democrats’ pitch is supposed to be “we’re the grown ups, you can trust us not to burn the House down even if you don’t love everything about us, whereas the other option is a rabid, lawless, deranged mob.” 

This, too. Democrats are supposed to be the mature ones, and too bad if it involves biting our tongues sometimes. You can already see the both-siders making this a both sides thing. Mind you, there are enough low-info voters who actually think that simplistically, and if Crockett hadn't retaliated, there would be simply no way of both-siding. It would serve as another classic example of the GOP being classless and being unable to rein in its members. Now we're hearing the traditional both sides bullsh**t that "they both are wrong," and unfortunately, it's all a wash.

Both parties should be censured.  If they can be fined, they should be fined as well.  And the leadership of both parties should relegate them to less politicized committees.

That, of course will not solve the problem.  Nor is this the first time we have been here.  There were fist fights and a vicious caning in the Halls of Congress leading up to the Civil War, and this is part of the process that led up to secession and the Civil War.  (Many Congressmen were living in dumpy rooming houses and heavily drinking, as DC wasn't the swinging town it is now.) 

I do think that the people of North Georgia could elect a more effective advocate for their causes than MTG.  I would certainly support a primary challenger. 

It's funny you should mention this. I read The Field of Blood by Joanne Freeman a few years back and recently began perusing it again (will probably reread it when I have more time over the summer) - it details numerous instances of such antebellum bedlam. The parallels between the southern Democrats of the 1850s and the GOP of today, between the northerners of the 1850s and the Democrats of today, is quite striking.

I don't consider the GOP today as being the Fire Eaters of the 1800s.  The Fire Eaters were a minority then, and the "Progressive" caucuses (the "Squad", other "Democratic Socialists", etc.) are a minority within the Democratic Party today, but they are a Tail That Wags The Dog much as the Fire Eaters were in 1860.

Had the Fire Eaters not controlled the 1860 Democratic National Convention (held, of all places, in Charleston, SC), the Democrats would have likely nominated Stephen A. Douglas in a unified convention without a need for the Fire Eaters to put on a show for the Home Folks if the convention was held in a different city.  Whatever the virtues and vices of Stephen A. Douglas were, had there been no Breckenridge and no Bell running, he'd have likely been elected President and there would likely have been no Civil War.  That, of course, begs the question of slavery; Lincoln's election cost us the Civil War (a truly awful war that was described as "The First Modern War), but gained the Emancipation, which many say would have come about eventually without the war, but don't really present compelling facts as to how that would have come about other than the kind of war we had that was, in fact, over that issue.

The big difference here is that we now have ideologically based parties.  This is a new development; the GOP had a significant number of liberals through the 1970s, and the Democrats had a significant number of conservatives through the 1970s as well. What happened was an end to the seniority system and the election of committee chairs by the Democratic Caucus.  Suddenly, you could no longer be a Rep. F. Edward Hebert (D-LA) or a Rep. Jamie Whitten (D-MS); you had to moderate your record.  Hebert would not and was ousted from his chair at Armed Services.  Whiten turned into a reliable Democratic vote and became chair of the Appropriations Committee.  That ideological realignment has now become complete; there is more ideological conformity in both parties now than at any time before in our history.  I expect the loggerheads to continue, to be honest.

[Obama24]

That was a great line by Rep. Crockett! More people need to clap back at MTG.

Anyway, those of who are groaning about "decorum," "this is embarrassing," and whatnot need to stop.

The UK pretty much has weekly roast sessions in their parliament that are worse than this. Also, in certain other countries, some of their politicians regularly get into scuffles and fights in their houses of parliament. So some word-jabbing is nothing.

Last I checked however, we are not the UK. The UK also has a King; shall we be like them in that regard too?

MTG was wrong for stirring the pot, Crockett was wrong for equally immature response. Both should be punished. What is the point of having standards, rules, or any guidelines if they are not going to be followed? Saying both are wrong doesn't make you a bad person or somehow make you a supporter of MTG. It's okay to sometimes drop partisan blinders and say someone you like is wrong.

[Landslide Lyndon]

Saying both are wrong doesn't make you a bad person or somehow make you a supporter of MTG.

No, it makes you a New York Times political journalist.

[Obama24]

Saying both are wrong doesn't make you a bad person or somehow make you a supporter of MTG.

No, it makes you a New York Times political journalist.

I'd say it makes you a mature and non-overly partisan person. The people supporting Crockett  are taking her side simply because they dislike MTG, not because she was actually right to respond as she did. They were both immature and both aren't emotionally suited to their position.

[ηєω ƒяσηтιєя]

Last I checked however, we are not the UK. The UK also has a King; shall we be like them in that regard too?

MTG was wrong for stirring the pot, Crockett was wrong for equally immature response. Both should be punished. What is the point of having standards, rules, or any guidelines if they are not going to be followed? Saying both are wrong doesn't make you a bad person or somehow make you a supporter of MTG. It's okay to sometimes drop partisan blinders and say someone you like is wrong.

1. The UK having a King is completely irrelevant to what I said.

2. I mentioned that other countries besides the UK have even worse things happen in their parliament.

3. The Democrats' strategy of "going high" while Republicans "go low" is a tired and weak strategy based on a false sense of "decorum".

4. This was just a one time incident, Rep. Crockett had enough and was pointing out Republican hypocrisy. She did nothing wrong. You can feel however you want but it doesn't matter.

[Obama24]

Last I checked however, we are not the UK. The UK also has a King; shall we be like them in that regard too?

MTG was wrong for stirring the pot, Crockett was wrong for equally immature response. Both should be punished. What is the point of having standards, rules, or any guidelines if they are not going to be followed? Saying both are wrong doesn't make you a bad person or somehow make you a supporter of MTG. It's okay to sometimes drop partisan blinders and say someone you like is wrong.

1. The UK having a King is completely irrelevant to what I said.

2. I mentioned that other countries besides the UK have even worse things happen in their parliament.

3. The Democrats' strategy of "going high" while Republicans "go low" is a tired and weak strategy based on a false sense of "decorum".

4. This was just a one time incident, Rep. Crockett had enough and was pointing out Republican hypocrisy. She did nothing wrong. You can feel however you want but it doesn't matter.

1. You made a comparison to other countries' ways of doing things and suggest we follow in their lead. I drew a comparison to a difference. The point being that comparing Parliament and other countries' legislative houses are different than ours and just because they do things a certain way, doesn't mean we should. Other countries do a lot of things differently, why follow in their lead only in this ugly way?

2. See point one.

3. Look, I get the raging seething anger on the far left. You guys are looking for a fight and so are the far right. Most people don't want a civil war or for dialog to devolve further, however. Your view is on the fringe.

4. Whether it happens one time, or one hundred, it is still wrong. You ignored the point - why are there even guidelines for conduct if they are not going to be followed? My guess is you don't support the guidelines being in place, for people you support anyway. And no no, your feelings don't matter. You are not the arbiter of what is right and wrong. By Congressional rules and civilized rules of conduct, BOTH were wrong. Take off the partisan or "YAS KWEEEN" blinders. I get you like Crockett, I get you hate MTG. I don't like either. But you can say "I like this person, but they were wrong." I know you're afraid of being attacked by your peers as a traitor, but it's not hard to take a moral stand. It's not a binary choice. Unconditional support of a person is being in a cult of that person.

[Pouring Rain and Blairing Music]

All that I’ll say about MTG on this topic is that she looks a lot like Roger Stone.

[Neo-Malthusian Misanthrope]

I'm more or less a professional "both sides"-er but I'm not going to lose any sleep over this. Plus I read a thing once that explained MTG was basically radicalized by Crossfit, so it all fits.

[VBM]

Disappointing to see Dem posters still preaching this “When they go low, we go high” nonsense

[Obama24]

Disappointing to see Dem posters still preaching this “When they go low, we go high” nonsense

Would you rather it be, "they go low, we go lower"? And then, as the basement of rhetoric gets lower and lower, will you be surprised when rhetoric turns violent?

I feel a good segment of the Democrats want blood, just as much as Trump's diehards do. A lot of French Revolutionary level anger in this country.