Why would anyone not want four more years of President Biden?

[holtridge]

I just don't get it

[Redban]

because the last 4 years have been rough

[holtridge]

because the last 4 years have been rough

So was 2002-2003 for me and my family. Things were rough back then. I thought I was going to have to live in a car things were so bad. I could barely afford to eat. The Trump years weren't too bad I guess except for Covid. I like the way President Biden is putting people back to work and allowing wages to rise. I like the way President Biden is handling our education system too

[SnowLabrador]

Because the world's a lot more unstable than it was during Trump's term. Say what you will about 2020, but at least everyone was united against the virus then.

[TechbroMBA]

Brandon is turning the USD into 2-ply with reckless spending. Atleast when Trump ran up the deficit it was to cut my taxes, not pay the student loans of terrorist-sympathizers.

[MadmanMotley]

Brandon is turning the USD into 2-ply with reckless spending. Atleast when Trump ran up the deficit it was to cut my taxes, not pay the student loans of terrorist-sympathizers.

[Citation Needed]

[President Johnson]

Because the world's a lot more unstable than it was during Trump's term. Say what you will about 2020, but at least everyone was united against the virus then.

The world is more unstable because of external factors. Especially in this critical time, it's more important than ever that an experienced and rational leader with a steady hand like Biden is at helm, who's surrounded by a competent team of professionals who can deal with these challenges. And not an erratic maniac who wants to isolate the US from the rest of the world and wouldn't even find Ukraine on a map.

In a time like this it's also critical to have allies in the world, and Biden has restored the traditional allianced very fast after he came in.

[7,052,770]

Because the world's a lot more unstable than it was during Trump's term. Say what you will about 2020, but at least everyone was united against the virus then.

Both sentences here are completely wrong, especially the second. Have you just forgotten about all the denialism, resistance to masking and social distancing, promotion of fake treatments, "plandemic" hoax, etc.?

[SnowLabrador]

Because the world's a lot more unstable than it was during Trump's term. Say what you will about 2020, but at least everyone was united against the virus then.

Both sentences here are completely wrong, especially the second. Have you just forgotten about all the denialism, resistance to masking and social distancing, promotion of fake treatments, "plandemic" hoax, etc.?

I haven't, but lots of voters have. It's like how we forget about mass shootings, only on a far more massive scale.

[wnwnwn]

Let Barron simps be

[Stranger in a strange land]

Brandon is turning the USD into 2-ply with reckless spending. Atleast when Trump ran up the deficit it was to cut my taxes, not pay the student loans of terrorist-sympathizers.

Almost every country on earth is experiencing inflation and cost of living issues, most worse than the US, and the dollar is strong compared to most other currencies.

[NYSforKennedy2024]

Brandon is turning the USD into 2-ply with reckless spending. Atleast when Trump ran up the deficit it was to cut my taxes, not pay the student loans of terrorist-sympathizers.

[Citation Needed]

https://www.crfb.org/blogs/total-cost-student-debt-cancellation#:~:text=Including%20the%20Biden%20Administration's%20new,over%20the%20nation's%20entire%20history. - Including the Biden Administration’s new student debt cancellation plan, we estimate all recent student debt cancellation policies will cost a combined $870 billion to $1.4 trillion. That’s more than all federal spending on higher education over the nation’s entire history. The vast majority of this debt cancellation was put in place through executive actions under President Biden.

InsideHigherEd.com - Of those who expressed support for the protests, 36 percent said they at least somewhat agree with the use of violence as a protest strategy and 37 percent approve of the use of hate speech. An even larger share of respondents said they support protesters blocking graduation (38 percent), preventing students from going to class (46 percent) and erecting encampments on campus (75 percent).

Student Debt Cancellation is quite literally benefiting (not entirely, but it is benefiting) terrorist theocracy state supporters.

[AGA]

He's not. He's far from the worst president, but he has had too many policy failures. I can't be bothered to name them all, but for starters, the ARP was way too big and contributed to the inflation in 2021 and 2022. He's also presiding over a deficit of nearly $2 trillion even though unemployment is very low, although it's not like Republicans are any better on this front.

I can understand voting for him because you think Trump is worse, but you'd have to have a very different worldview than me to actually like this guy.

[Vern]

Let me see… the price of everything has go up a lot under Biden.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

Brandon is turning the USD into 2-ply with reckless spending. Atleast when Trump ran up the deficit it was to cut my taxes, not pay the student loans of terrorist-sympathizers.

But he did give your tax dollars to people working from home fully employed and businesses that did not need it.

[GAinDC]

Let me see… the price of everything has go up alot over under Biden.

The price of everything went up under Trump too. Prices are always increasing.

We had an inflation spike, but now wages are rising faster than inflation and purchasing power is stronger now than it was in 2019 — which is apparently the year that everyone compares today’s economy to.

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/LES1252881600Q

On other fronts, the progress under Biden is deniably good, like job growth and unemployment rate.

We have economic challenges, but things are better than many realize or want to admit.

[Vern]

Let me see… the price of everything has go up alot over under Biden.

The price of everything went up under Trump too. Prices are always increasing.

We had an inflation spike, but now wages are rising faster that inflation and purchasing power is stronger now than it was in 2019 — which is apparently the year that everyone compares today’s economy to.

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/LES1252881600Q

On other fronts, the progress under Biden is deniably good, like job growth and unemployment rate.

We have economic challenges, but things are better than many realize or want to admit.

Honestly, you can show all the numbers you want. To most voters the “numbers” don’t matter. The only number that matter to them is the number of dollars they have in their bank accounts or the lack there of.

[MadmanMotley]

Brandon is turning the USD into 2-ply with reckless spending. Atleast when Trump ran up the deficit it was to cut my taxes, not pay the student loans of terrorist-sympathizers.

[Citation Needed]

https://www.crfb.org/blogs/total-cost-student-debt-cancellation#:~:text=Including%20the%20Biden%20Administration's%20new,over%20the%20nation's%20entire%20history. - Including the Biden Administration’s new student debt cancellation plan, we estimate all recent student debt cancellation policies will cost a combined $870 billion to $1.4 trillion. That’s more than all federal spending on higher education over the nation’s entire history. The vast majority of this debt cancellation was put in place through executive actions under President Biden.

InsideHigherEd.com - Of those who expressed support for the protests, 36 percent said they at least somewhat agree with the use of violence as a protest strategy and 37 percent approve of the use of hate speech. An even larger share of respondents said they support protesters blocking graduation (38 percent), preventing students from going to class (46 percent) and erecting encampments on campus (75 percent).

Student Debt Cancellation is quite literally benefiting (not entirely, but it is benefiting) terrorist theocracy state supporters.

Except none of that says "supporting terrorist theocracy state supporters" - which paints all protesters as "pro-Hamas" - when most are merely anti-state-sponsored violence.

But here's the kicker - most beneficiaries of student debt relief have graduated - and most have been graduated for some time now. The interest is the killer on student loans, and those in school don't have interest kick in until after graduation (for subsidized-undergraduate loans).
So the people who benefit the most are those in the workforce - not those out protesting.
So yeah, any blanket forgiveness (which this still targeted), will have people you or I don't agree with getting a benefit. But that shouldn't taint your opinion of the policy as a whole. You can agree or disagree with the policy on its benefits or its problems - but being against it because it benefits a couple people you don't like or agree with is extremely vengeful. Policy-making should not be vengeful endeavor.

[NYSforKennedy2024]

Brandon is turning the USD into 2-ply with reckless spending. Atleast when Trump ran up the deficit it was to cut my taxes, not pay the student loans of terrorist-sympathizers.

[Citation Needed]

https://www.crfb.org/blogs/total-cost-student-debt-cancellation#:~:text=Including%20the%20Biden%20Administration's%20new,over%20the%20nation's%20entire%20history. - Including the Biden Administration’s new student debt cancellation plan, we estimate all recent student debt cancellation policies will cost a combined $870 billion to $1.4 trillion. That’s more than all federal spending on higher education over the nation’s entire history. The vast majority of this debt cancellation was put in place through executive actions under President Biden.

InsideHigherEd.com - Of those who expressed support for the protests, 36 percent said they at least somewhat agree with the use of violence as a protest strategy and 37 percent approve of the use of hate speech. An even larger share of respondents said they support protesters blocking graduation (38 percent), preventing students from going to class (46 percent) and erecting encampments on campus (75 percent).

Student Debt Cancellation is quite literally benefiting (not entirely, but it is benefiting) terrorist theocracy state supporters.

but being against it because it benefits a couple people you don't like or agree with is extremely vengeful. Policy-making should not be vengeful endeavor.

Are you aware that we live in 2024? I'm not saying I'm glad or happy that things are this way, but, since the election of Trump we're living in the age of vengeance politics, and Biden is just as guilty.

[GAinDC]

Let me see… the price of everything has go up alot over under Biden.

The price of everything went up under Trump too. Prices are always increasing.

We had an inflation spike, but now wages are rising faster that inflation and purchasing power is stronger now than it was in 2019 — which is apparently the year that everyone compares today’s economy to.

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/LES1252881600Q

On other fronts, the progress under Biden is deniably good, like job growth and unemployment rate.

We have economic challenges, but things are better than many realize or want to admit.

Honestly, you can’t show all the numbers you want. To most voters the “numbers” don’t matter. The only number that matter to them is the number of dollars they have in their bank accounts or the lack there of.

I know what the polling says. Thankfully Biden can push back on that false narrative instead of having to swallow it.

Biden would be committing political malpractice if he didn’t talk about the things that are going right in the economy, as every other President has done.

More importantly — Trump has no real plan to lower costs because he knows he can’t do it.

[GAinDC]

I see the anti-Biden avatars are out in full force because they are so committed to a false narrative around the economy, and it’s the only hope for Trump to win.

They are scared that inflation is going down and job growth remains strong because that means consumers will begin to realize things are moving in the right direction.

The next six months will be fun.

[MadmanMotley]

Brandon is turning the USD into 2-ply with reckless spending. Atleast when Trump ran up the deficit it was to cut my taxes, not pay the student loans of terrorist-sympathizers.

[Citation Needed]

https://www.crfb.org/blogs/total-cost-student-debt-cancellation#:~:text=Including%20the%20Biden%20Administration's%20new,over%20the%20nation's%20entire%20history. - Including the Biden Administration’s new student debt cancellation plan, we estimate all recent student debt cancellation policies will cost a combined $870 billion to $1.4 trillion. That’s more than all federal spending on higher education over the nation’s entire history. The vast majority of this debt cancellation was put in place through executive actions under President Biden.

InsideHigherEd.com - Of those who expressed support for the protests, 36 percent said they at least somewhat agree with the use of violence as a protest strategy and 37 percent approve of the use of hate speech. An even larger share of respondents said they support protesters blocking graduation (38 percent), preventing students from going to class (46 percent) and erecting encampments on campus (75 percent).

Student Debt Cancellation is quite literally benefiting (not entirely, but it is benefiting) terrorist theocracy state supporters.

but being against it because it benefits a couple people you don't like or agree with is extremely vengeful. Policy-making should not be vengeful endeavor.

Are you aware that we live in 2024? I'm not saying I'm glad or happy that things are this way, but, since the election of Trump we're living in the age of vengeance politics, and Biden is just as guilty.

Biden is just as guilty.

Can you elaborate on this? Sure, I can see some of his messaging being perceived as "vengeful" but what policies?

You laid out that Trump kicked off the age of vengeance politics (arguable, but I can see that), so far the Republican Party has been the party of vengeance politics.
That also doesn't mean it's the right way to govern - and even if it's "with the times" doesn't mean you have to go along with it.

[President Johnson]

I see the anti-Biden avatars are out in full force because they are so committed to a false narrative around the economy, and it’s the only hope for Trump to win.

They are scared that inflation is going down and job growth remains strong because that means consumers will begin to realize things are moving in the right direction.

The next six months will be fun.

Also, there's zero evidence another Trump Administration would effectively bring prices down to pre-pandemic levels or that wages would go up as a result of their policies. He doesn't have a real policy here other than another tax handout for his Mar-A-Lago buddies.

[OSR stands with Israel]

I see the anti-Biden avatars are out in full force because they are so committed to a false narrative around the economy, and it’s the only hope for Trump to win.

They are scared that inflation is going down and job growth remains strong because that means consumers will begin to realize things are moving in the right direction.

The next six months will be fun.

Also, there's zero evidence another Trump Administration would effectively bring prices down to pre-pandemic levels or that wages would go up as a result of their policies. He doesn't have a real policy here other than another tax handout for his Mar-A-Lago buddies.

Supply Side Economics is generally good in bringing down prices as it helps in increasing aggregate supply. In fact the entire premise of supply side economics is that the way to help the economy is too:

1. Implement policies that lead to businesses expansion which in turn will increase the overall supply in the economy

2. Increase in Aggregate Supply helps bring down prices, which in turn increases demand and spurs economic growth

Keep number 1 and 2 in a loop long enough and you can keep control of prices while the economy is growing as well.

[LAKISYLVANIA]

To be honest, if we exclude who was in charge

i'd rather have 2016-2020 be repeated than 2020-2024 and it's not even close, and i think that's what hurts Biden a bit, even if it's not really his doing just like the pandemic spreading wasn't in control of Trump, sometimes a president... is just one human being that can only do so much.

Though i'm still of the belief that Biden could have done more to stop the human suffering in Gaza. But Ukraine-Russia, Afghanistan and post-pandemic or economy, i doubt there was a lot he could do to change those things.