May Primaries Coverage Thread

[Agafin]

Nikki Haley to meet with donors after surprising showings in GOP primaries: report

Nikki Haley will meet with donors next week after a series of surprisingly strong showings in Republican primaries, a source said in a new report.

A person close to the former South Carolina governor said Thursday that Haley will attend a retreat Monday and Tuesday to thank about 100 of her biggest campaign donors, reported the Wall Street Journal.

Haley is not expected to discuss her political future or encourage them to contribute to other candidates, the report notes.

“Sometimes it takes more than one run to secure the nomination – look at John McCain and Mitt Romney,” said GOP fundraiser and strategist Eric Tanenblatt, who plans to attend the retreat. “She created something of a movement and built a coalition of Republicans and independents and even some conservative Democrats.”

https://www.rawstory.com/nikki-haley-trump-2668212455/

She's probably angling a 2028 run as these numbers clearly show an appetite for her in the GOP electorate. The problem though is that 2028 will be a free for all as Trump won't be running.

[GeorgiaModerate]

Nikki Haley to meet with donors after surprising showings in GOP primaries: report

Nikki Haley will meet with donors next week after a series of surprisingly strong showings in Republican primaries, a source said in a new report.

A person close to the former South Carolina governor said Thursday that Haley will attend a retreat Monday and Tuesday to thank about 100 of her biggest campaign donors, reported the Wall Street Journal.

Haley is not expected to discuss her political future or encourage them to contribute to other candidates, the report notes.

“Sometimes it takes more than one run to secure the nomination – look at John McCain and Mitt Romney,” said GOP fundraiser and strategist Eric Tanenblatt, who plans to attend the retreat. “She created something of a movement and built a coalition of Republicans and independents and even some conservative Democrats.”

https://www.rawstory.com/nikki-haley-trump-2668212455/

She's probably angling a 2028 run as these numbers clearly show an appetite for her in the GOP electorate. The problem though is that 2028 will be a free for all as Trump won't be running.

This is plausible, although I also wonder if she's preparing for a possible return to the race if Trump is convicted in New York.

[Shaula🏳️‍⚧️]

Nikki Haley to meet with donors after surprising showings in GOP primaries: report

Nikki Haley will meet with donors next week after a series of surprisingly strong showings in Republican primaries, a source said in a new report.

A person close to the former South Carolina governor said Thursday that Haley will attend a retreat Monday and Tuesday to thank about 100 of her biggest campaign donors, reported the Wall Street Journal.

Haley is not expected to discuss her political future or encourage them to contribute to other candidates, the report notes.

“Sometimes it takes more than one run to secure the nomination – look at John McCain and Mitt Romney,” said GOP fundraiser and strategist Eric Tanenblatt, who plans to attend the retreat. “She created something of a movement and built a coalition of Republicans and independents and even some conservative Democrats.”

https://www.rawstory.com/nikki-haley-trump-2668212455/

She's probably angling a 2028 run as these numbers clearly show an appetite for her in the GOP electorate. The problem though is that 2028 will be a free for all as Trump won't be running.

This is plausible, although I also wonder if she's preparing for a possible return to the race if Trump is convicted in New York.

Trump is already the nominee, i have no idea what her "returning to the race" would even entail in that scenario.

[Eraserhead]

Nikki Haley to meet with donors after surprising showings in GOP primaries: report

Nikki Haley will meet with donors next week after a series of surprisingly strong showings in Republican primaries, a source said in a new report.

A person close to the former South Carolina governor said Thursday that Haley will attend a retreat Monday and Tuesday to thank about 100 of her biggest campaign donors, reported the Wall Street Journal.

Haley is not expected to discuss her political future or encourage them to contribute to other candidates, the report notes.

“Sometimes it takes more than one run to secure the nomination – look at John McCain and Mitt Romney,” said GOP fundraiser and strategist Eric Tanenblatt, who plans to attend the retreat. “She created something of a movement and built a coalition of Republicans and independents and even some conservative Democrats.”

https://www.rawstory.com/nikki-haley-trump-2668212455/

She's probably angling a 2028 run as these numbers clearly show an appetite for her in the GOP electorate. The problem though is that 2028 will be a free for all as Trump won't be running.

If he loses, he's running and easily winning the nomination in 2028.

[GeorgiaModerate]

Nikki Haley to meet with donors after surprising showings in GOP primaries: report

Nikki Haley will meet with donors next week after a series of surprisingly strong showings in Republican primaries, a source said in a new report.

A person close to the former South Carolina governor said Thursday that Haley will attend a retreat Monday and Tuesday to thank about 100 of her biggest campaign donors, reported the Wall Street Journal.

Haley is not expected to discuss her political future or encourage them to contribute to other candidates, the report notes.

“Sometimes it takes more than one run to secure the nomination – look at John McCain and Mitt Romney,” said GOP fundraiser and strategist Eric Tanenblatt, who plans to attend the retreat. “She created something of a movement and built a coalition of Republicans and independents and even some conservative Democrats.”

https://www.rawstory.com/nikki-haley-trump-2668212455/

She's probably angling a 2028 run as these numbers clearly show an appetite for her in the GOP electorate. The problem though is that 2028 will be a free for all as Trump won't be running.

If he loses, he's running and easily winning the nomination in 2028.

I think the chances of him being physically or mentally fit to run again in another four years are extremely low.

[Eraserhead]

So I'm thinking Willamson is going to have her best showing of the primary in Oregon. It seems she's the only non-Biden option on the ballot (?)

[Attorney General & PPT Dwarven Dragon]

Nikki Haley to meet with donors after surprising showings in GOP primaries: report

Nikki Haley will meet with donors next week after a series of surprisingly strong showings in Republican primaries, a source said in a new report.

A person close to the former South Carolina governor said Thursday that Haley will attend a retreat Monday and Tuesday to thank about 100 of her biggest campaign donors, reported the Wall Street Journal.

Haley is not expected to discuss her political future or encourage them to contribute to other candidates, the report notes.

“Sometimes it takes more than one run to secure the nomination – look at John McCain and Mitt Romney,” said GOP fundraiser and strategist Eric Tanenblatt, who plans to attend the retreat. “She created something of a movement and built a coalition of Republicans and independents and even some conservative Democrats.”

https://www.rawstory.com/nikki-haley-trump-2668212455/

She's probably angling a 2028 run as these numbers clearly show an appetite for her in the GOP electorate. The problem though is that 2028 will be a free for all as Trump won't be running.

This is plausible, although I also wonder if she's preparing for a possible return to the race if Trump is convicted in New York.

The likeliest sentence in that case is some form of probation. Aside from maybe the media getting to cover Trump doing community service for a couple weekends, that likely won't have any material impact on the race. If you care about the conviction in and of itself, you weren't voting for Trump anyway.

Even if Trump is sent to prison, there's the historical precedent of Eugene Debs still staying in the race, and he has hundreds of delegates in excess of the threshold to secure the nomination. The only way to deny him the nomination at this stage would be to have the convention vote to unbound the delegates, and even that would just get it to a free-for-all. There's no guarantee Haley would end up as the nominee out of that process, and it might even still nominate Trump.

Yes, in theory, Haley could take a third party ballot line, but it's unclear which one she could have. 4 Such lines (We the People, Natural Law, American Independent, and Delaware Independent) have already pledged their support to RFK. Another 2 (Unity and Green Mountain) have already pledged their support to Cornel West. Another 4 (Prohibition, Constitution, American Solidarity, and Socialist Liberation) have already announced another nominee. Among those with ballot access, that leaves the Libertarians, the Greens, Legal Marijuana Now, Peace and Freedom, Unity, Alliance, Approval Voting, United Kansas, and Working Families. Several of these have very limited ballot access, and none is an obvious fit for Haley. It's also significantly too late for a bona fide independent run to work.

[ProudModerate2]

That's a big showing for Haley, and very troubling for trump.
Many in his party hate him. If they stay home, vote for someone else, or even vote for Biden, it could be a fine swing for Biden in November.

[ClassicElectionEnthusiast]

Yes, in theory, Haley could take a third party ballot line, but it's unclear which one she could have. 4 Such lines (We the People, Natural Law, American Independent, and Delaware Independent) have already pledged their support to RFK. Another 2 (Unity and Green Mountain) have already pledged their support to Cornel West. Another 4 (Prohibition, Constitution, American Solidarity, and Socialist Liberation) have already announced another nominee. Among those with ballot access, that leaves the Libertarians, the Greens, Legal Marijuana Now, Peace and Freedom, Unity, Alliance, Approval Voting, United Kansas, and Working Families. Several of these have very limited ballot access, and none is an obvious fit for Haley. It's also significantly too late for a bona fide independent run to work.

Even if Nikki Haley wanted to be 2024's version of John Anderson (running an independent campaign after withdrawing from the GOP contest in 1980); the combination of the hurdles to run an independent campaign and there already being definitely one (RFK Jr.) and probably two if one includes Cornel West independent/non major-party candidates with a high level of name recognition would be too much of a hurdle for her if that unlikely possibility was something she was even considering.

[GeorgiaModerate]

Yes, in theory, Haley could take a third party ballot line, but it's unclear which one she could have. 4 Such lines (We the People, Natural Law, American Independent, and Delaware Independent) have already pledged their support to RFK. Another 2 (Unity and Green Mountain) have already pledged their support to Cornel West. Another 4 (Prohibition, Constitution, American Solidarity, and Socialist Liberation) have already announced another nominee. Among those with ballot access, that leaves the Libertarians, the Greens, Legal Marijuana Now, Peace and Freedom, Unity, Alliance, Approval Voting, United Kansas, and Working Families. Several of these have very limited ballot access, and none is an obvious fit for Haley. It's also significantly too late for a bona fide independent run to work.

Even if Nikki Haley wanted to be 2024's version of John Anderson (running an independent campaign after withdrawing from the GOP contest in 1980); the combination of the hurdles to run an independent campaign and there already being definitely one (RFK Jr.) and probably two if one includes Cornel West independent/non major-party candidates with a high level of name recognition would be too much of a hurdle for her if that unlikely possibility was something she was even considering.

I was an Anderson volunteer in both the GOP primary and general election.  It was a different era.  As there is today, there was dissatisfaction with both major party nominees; Carter was very unpopular, and there were great concerns about Reagan's age.  But the difference is that polarization had not set in to the degree that it has now, so there was more room for a good chunk of the electorate to either cross the aisle or vote for a third-party candidate.  I don't think there's a current Republican, or Democrat for that matter, who could appeal sufficiently to the other party as well as their own to do as well as Anderson did -- and in the end that was only 7%.  (Perot, of course, beat that by a good margin, but he was a true outsider and didn't have any party labels to shake off.)

[Landslide Lyndon]

I was an Anderson volunteer in both the GOP primary and general election.  It was a different era.  As there is today, there was dissatisfaction with both major party nominees; Carter was very unpopular, and there were great concerns about Reagan's age.  But the difference is that polarization had not set in to the degree that it has now, so there was more room for a good chunk of the electorate to either cross the aisle or vote for a third-party candidate.  I don't think there's a current Republican, or Democrat for that matter, who could appeal sufficiently to the other party as well as their own to do as well as Anderson did -- and in the end that was only 7%.  (Perot, of course, beat that by a good margin, but he was a true outsider and didn't have any party labels to shake off.)

I thought the main concern with Reagan was that he was too conservative to win, not his age.
At least that's what a couple of friends have told me who also voted in that election.

[GeorgiaModerate]

I was an Anderson volunteer in both the GOP primary and general election.  It was a different era.  As there is today, there was dissatisfaction with both major party nominees; Carter was very unpopular, and there were great concerns about Reagan's age.  But the difference is that polarization had not set in to the degree that it has now, so there was more room for a good chunk of the electorate to either cross the aisle or vote for a third-party candidate.  I don't think there's a current Republican, or Democrat for that matter, who could appeal sufficiently to the other party as well as their own to do as well as Anderson did -- and in the end that was only 7%.  (Perot, of course, beat that by a good margin, but he was a true outsider and didn't have any party labels to shake off.)

I thought the main concern with Reagan was that he was too conservative to win, not his age.
At least that's what a couple of friends have told me who also voted in that election.

That was certainly a factor too.  I can't really say which was the greater factor overall; among people I knew it was his age (but I was young then and so were most of my friends).

[wbrocks67]

Curious how high Haley will be in NE and MD tonight. KS has a surprisingly high showing for Haley, so I wonder if NE will duplicate.

[wbrocks67]

STOP THE COUNT! 4% in for WV and Biden actually has a higher share than Trump (82.8 vs 82.6) lol

[wbrocks67]

Nothing out of the ordinary in WV, Biden at 76%, Trump now at 86%.

Key questions are if Haley remains in double digits and if Biden falls below 70. Would be something if WV ended up being not as bad as MN in the end

[DrScholl]

Haley is posting rather high numbers in Maryland for having dropped out months ago. Her perfomances in Baltimore and Prince Georges help support my theory that whatever Black voters are voting in the Republican primaries are leaning more toward Haley as opposed to Trump. His leads there are probably almost totally based on White voters.

[wbrocks67]

A horrific performance for Trump in the early vote in the Omaha area/suburbs, wow. I'm sure e-day will make up for it a bit, but I'm watching to see if this is KS all over again with a surprisingly robust Haley vote here too statewide.

[Arizona Iced Tea]

Trump is recovering in Maryland and probably cracks 80%.

[heatcharger]

A horrific performance for Trump in the early vote in the Omaha area/suburbs, wow. I'm sure e-day will make up for it a bit, but I'm watching to see if this is KS all over again with a surprisingly robust Haley vote here too statewide.

Unsurprising. These are the worst people in America.

[GeorgiaModerate]

A horrific performance for Trump in the early vote in the Omaha area/suburbs, wow. I'm sure e-day will make up for it a bit, but I'm watching to see if this is KS all over again with a surprisingly robust Haley vote here too statewide.

Unsurprising. These are the worst people in America.

You don’t like Omaha?

[Attorney General & PPT Dwarven Dragon]

Really strong performances for both nominees tonight

[The Mikado]

Biden's gonna break 70% in WV?

The Demosaur is extinct, I guess.

[Matty]

Biden's gonna break 70% in WV?

The Demosaur is extinct, I guess.

morbid thought, but a lot of them literally died since Obama's 2012 primary in the state.

[AncestralDemocrat.]

Biden's gonna break 70% in WV?

The Demosaur is extinct, I guess.

Dems still had a registration advantage in 2020.. its now +10 R.

[Arizona Iced Tea]

The same thing happened in the PA thread. Early votes favor Haley and it looks awful for Trump and he slowly claws his way back to a respectable figure as the night goes on. The forum needs to stop overanalyzing results until everything is counted.