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Landslide Lyndon
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« Reply #25 on: April 07, 2024, 01:26:48 AM »

Every election year we have stories like this and every time both tickets make it to the ballot.
Yeah I remember the same thing about Trump 2020 in CO. It never actually pans out.

And Romney in Washington state, Obama in Kansas, McCain in Texas, etc.
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« Reply #26 on: April 07, 2024, 01:45:05 AM »

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Paul Disantis, chief legal counsel for the Ohio secretary of state, laid out the options for getting Biden on the ballot in a Friday letter addressed to Ohio Democratic Party Chairwoman Liz Walters ...

“I am left to conclude that the Democratic National Committee must either move up its nominating convention or the Ohio General Assembly must act by May 9, 2024 (90 days prior to a new law’s effective date) to create an exception to this statutory requirement.”

https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/06/politics/biden-ohio-ballot-election-conflict/index.html


This is odd.
Why didn't the DNC see this, before selecting their date?


Biden isn't contesting OH

I mean they should at least try to prop up Brown, though I'm not going to be surprised if they triage him as he's not a coastal elite stooge.

This whole chip on the shoulder act that some people have is ridiculous. Not one single Democrat believes this about Brown. The whole "Elitism/Illuminati" conspiracy is old and tired. Besides, most coastal areas aren't even elite outside of a few pockets that are mostly very Republican.

You underestimate the pettiness of figures like Jefferies and the old guard that placed him in power. You also seem to take my comment personally, I'm not talking about you or any of the other regular people on the coasts. I'm talking about the Wall St. faction of the Democratic Party which tends to be associated with the coast but isn't necessarily tied to it.
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« Reply #27 on: April 07, 2024, 08:42:42 AM »

Friendly reminder that both parties missed ballot access in Texas in 2008, and the only reason Obama and McCain made it onto the ballot was due to the unequal treatment our system affords the two dominant parties.
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« Reply #28 on: April 07, 2024, 10:08:18 AM »

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Paul Disantis, chief legal counsel for the Ohio secretary of state, laid out the options for getting Biden on the ballot in a Friday letter addressed to Ohio Democratic Party Chairwoman Liz Walters ...

“I am left to conclude that the Democratic National Committee must either move up its nominating convention or the Ohio General Assembly must act by May 9, 2024 (90 days prior to a new law’s effective date) to create an exception to this statutory requirement.”

https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/06/politics/biden-ohio-ballot-election-conflict/index.html


This is odd.
Why didn't the DNC see this, before selecting their date?


Because this isn't a real rule, judging by the dates of the DNC and RNC dating back 10 years and it never being an issue before.

LaRose is getting real desperate
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« Reply #29 on: April 07, 2024, 06:09:25 PM »

The 2004 RNC was August 30th. August 19th isn't absurdly late by modern tradition.
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« Reply #30 on: April 07, 2024, 09:22:30 PM »

I'm 99.99999999% sure Joe Biden/Kamala Harris will be on the ballot as Democrats in Ohio but should the Republican SOS and Legislature play games Biden Harris could run as Independents with 5,000 signatures by August 7th.

This would certainly result in the highest number of counties a third-party candidate has won since 1992 (Perot won 15 counties nationwide in 1992 (not consequential at all, of course, but interesting factoid).

I mean, no third-party candidate has won any county at the presidential level since Perot. What would be cool is if Biden-Harris would beat Perot 1992's score, because then one would have to go back to 1968 to beat that, but it's not gonna happen (OH had just 7 Biden counties in 2020 and one of them is a quintessential swing county).
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« Reply #31 on: April 07, 2024, 09:25:25 PM »

It's not like Biden is going to win Ohio so there is no point in them doing this.

Taking Biden off the ballot in Ohio would have cut his popular vote margin in 2020, from 1.5% to 2.8%. 

Do you mean 4.5%?

If so, that means removing Biden from the OH ballot could mean a ~2 point rightward swing for the NPV, which may very well change the outcome of who wins the NPV (obviously not relevant to the actual outcome, but still symbolically significant).

Still, Biden will make it back onto the ballot so it's really all a moot discussion.
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« Reply #32 on: April 09, 2024, 03:17:41 PM »

Alabama is trying the same thing.

https://www.al.com/news/2024/04/alabama-secretary-of-state-says-democratic-convention-too-late-to-get-biden-on-ballot-this-fall.html

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Alabama Secretary of State Wes Allen has notified the state and national Democratic parties that the scheduled date of the Democratic National Convention is a few days after the deadline for the party to put its nominees for president and vice president on the ballot for the general election in November.
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« Reply #33 on: April 09, 2024, 05:18:30 PM »

Alabama is trying the same thing.

https://www.al.com/news/2024/04/alabama-secretary-of-state-says-democratic-convention-too-late-to-get-biden-on-ballot-this-fall.html

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Alabama Secretary of State Wes Allen has notified the state and national Democratic parties that the scheduled date of the Democratic National Convention is a few days after the deadline for the party to put its nominees for president and vice president on the ballot for the general election in November.


We don't need AL and OH
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« Reply #34 on: April 09, 2024, 05:58:15 PM »

Alabama is trying the same thing.

https://www.al.com/news/2024/04/alabama-secretary-of-state-says-democratic-convention-too-late-to-get-biden-on-ballot-this-fall.html

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Alabama Secretary of State Wes Allen has notified the state and national Democratic parties that the scheduled date of the Democratic National Convention is a few days after the deadline for the party to put its nominees for president and vice president on the ballot for the general election in November.

What happened to "let the voters decide" as with the Colorado ballot dilemma with Trump.
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« Reply #35 on: April 09, 2024, 06:03:46 PM »

I will eat my shoe if Biden is barred from being on the ballot in either state. Dem party can always nominate Biden just for those states early, but I doubt it comes to that.
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« Reply #36 on: April 10, 2024, 04:53:40 PM »

I was told by the SCOTUS that state law isn't applicable when determining whether a candidate should be on the ballot or not.
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« Reply #37 on: May 10, 2024, 10:13:52 AM »

May 9th has been and gone and the legislature has done nothing. Biden is therefore off the Ohio ballot
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« Reply #38 on: May 10, 2024, 10:35:26 AM »

May 9th has been and gone and the legislature has done nothing. Biden is therefore off the Ohio ballot

This is extremely dangerous to our democracy.
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« Reply #39 on: May 10, 2024, 10:48:49 AM »

May 9th has been and gone and the legislature has done nothing. Biden is therefore off the Ohio ballot

The courts will ultimately put him back on.
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« Reply #40 on: May 10, 2024, 10:52:43 AM »

He isn't contest OH anyways but the abortion amendment is gonna help Brown against Moreno
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« Reply #41 on: May 10, 2024, 11:58:26 AM »

Here's a story from the Columbus Dispatch with additional detail:

https://www.dispatch.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/05/08/ohio-lawmakers-vote-to-put-joe-biden-on-fall-ballot-after-dnc-snafu/73601333007/
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« Reply #42 on: May 10, 2024, 12:03:29 PM »


Seems like the Ohio legislature is much more right-wing than DeWine. They already overrode a veto for this far-right transgender bill a few months ago.
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« Reply #43 on: May 10, 2024, 12:15:50 PM »

And if the courts don't put him back on it will feed a narrative that the logic about Trump was rooted in bias.
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« Reply #44 on: May 10, 2024, 02:46:40 PM »

Alabama is trying the same thing.

https://www.al.com/news/2024/04/alabama-secretary-of-state-says-democratic-convention-too-late-to-get-biden-on-ballot-this-fall.html

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Alabama Secretary of State Wes Allen has notified the state and national Democratic parties that the scheduled date of the Democratic National Convention is a few days after the deadline for the party to put its nominees for president and vice president on the ballot for the general election in November.

What happened to "let the voters decide" as with the Colorado ballot dilemma with Trump.

Biden doesn't have an (R) after his name, obviously.

Republicans know they're constantly engaging in hypocrisy, and they don't care. Their goal is power and its abuse, and the law is only relevant to them when it is convenient to getting what they want. They love it when they hear people pointing out their hypocrisy, because it means that their generation-long ruse is working to conceal the straightforward reality: Republicans are deplorable people bent on terrible goals who operate in bad faith and intend to exploit and abuse everyone who doesn't have an (R) after their name.
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« Reply #45 on: May 10, 2024, 02:51:32 PM »

Another option is the Biden/Harris ticket could just collect signatures and make the ballot as an independent ticket.
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