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« on: April 06, 2024, 10:25:58 AM »

Ohio used to vote with the winner of Presidential elections. Why has Ohio taken a sudden turn to the right? Obama won there twice and so did Bill Clinton.  I wonder why the GOP has made such inroads the Buckeye State
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« Reply #1 on: April 06, 2024, 10:48:26 AM »

It's still a swing state Brown is winning but its a Trump state
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« Reply #2 on: April 06, 2024, 12:18:15 PM »

The partisan coalition shifted over the past 20 years, and this was particularly felt in Ohio.

The rise of a more populist and Nationalist Republican Party, and rise of a more cultured and urbane Democratic Party, meant that the Republicans gained ground in Ohio and the Democrats lost it.

Ohio doesn't really major urban centers and major suburbs to balance this shift out either. In Michigan and Pennsylvania (two similar states), the gains the Democrats have made in the Detroit, Philly and Pittsburgh suburbs have counteracted rural losses. That hasn't been the case with Ohio city suburbs.
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« Reply #3 on: April 06, 2024, 12:20:04 PM »

The partisan coalition shifted over the past 20 years, and this was particularly felt in Ohio.

The rise of a more populist and Nationalist Republican Party, and rise of a more cultured and urbane Democratic Party, meant that the Republicans gained ground in Ohio and the Democrats lost it.

Ohio doesn't really major urban centers and major suburbs to balance this shift out either. In Michigan and Pennsylvania (two similar states), the gains the Democrats have made in the Detroit, Philly and Pittsburgh suburbs have counteracted rural losses. That hasn't been the case with Ohio city suburbs.

Yeah. If you look at the main OH cities, their suburbs aren't even that favorable to Dems; Cinci has a lot of lower education WWC suburbs that have drifted right, and Cinci has a ring of ultra conservative suburbs that have cultural reasons for being so R.
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« Reply #4 on: April 06, 2024, 02:09:24 PM »

WWC have shifted to Republicans because Republicans stopped running neocons like Romney and Democrats have become more focused on social/cultural issues than economic ones.
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« Reply #5 on: April 06, 2024, 02:15:19 PM »

The partisan coalition shifted over the past 20 years, and this was particularly felt in Ohio.

The rise of a more populist and Nationalist Republican Party, and rise of a more cultured and urbane Democratic Party, meant that the Republicans gained ground in Ohio and the Democrats lost it.

Ohio doesn't really major urban centers and major suburbs to balance this shift out either. In Michigan and Pennsylvania (two similar states), the gains the Democrats have made in the Detroit, Philly and Pittsburgh suburbs have counteracted rural losses. That hasn't been the case with Ohio city suburbs.

Yeah. If you look at the main OH cities, their suburbs aren't even that favorable to Dems; Cinci has a lot of lower education WWC suburbs that have drifted right, and Cinci has a ring of ultra conservative suburbs that have cultural reasons for being so R.

Not true. Dems have made gains in suburbs of Columbus and Cincinnati.
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« Reply #6 on: April 06, 2024, 02:25:12 PM »
« Edited: April 06, 2024, 02:29:51 PM by Randy Marsh »

Political realignment has been occurring unevenly across different demographic groups. OH, a state with a significant number of white working-class residents, has seen one of the most notable shifts. WWC is among those experiencing the most pronounced realignment
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« Reply #7 on: April 06, 2024, 02:59:22 PM »

The partisan coalition shifted over the past 20 years, and this was particularly felt in Ohio.

The rise of a more populist and Nationalist Republican Party, and rise of a more cultured and urbane Democratic Party, meant that the Republicans gained ground in Ohio and the Democrats lost it.

Ohio doesn't really major urban centers and major suburbs to balance this shift out either. In Michigan and Pennsylvania (two similar states), the gains the Democrats have made in the Detroit, Philly and Pittsburgh suburbs have counteracted rural losses. That hasn't been the case with Ohio city suburbs.

Yeah. If you look at the main OH cities, their suburbs aren't even that favorable to Dems; Cinci has a lot of lower education WWC suburbs that have drifted right, and Cinci has a ring of ultra conservative suburbs that have cultural reasons for being so R.

Not true. Dems have made gains in suburbs of Columbus and Cincinnati.

That is true, but those gains haven't been nearly enough to balance out the shift towards the Republicans state-wide.
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« Reply #8 on: April 06, 2024, 07:55:53 PM »

Political realignment has been occurring unevenly across different demographic groups. OH, a state with a significant number of white working-class residents, has seen one of the most notable shifts. WWC is among those experiencing the most pronounced realignment

It is not just white working class.
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« Reply #9 on: April 06, 2024, 08:11:28 PM »

We don't need OH and Brown is holding up really well in OH, so stop making it look like Biden is cratering all we need is WI,PA and Mi
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« Reply #10 on: April 06, 2024, 08:15:16 PM »

Beyond what has already been mentioned, the state has suffered a massive brain drain. College educated youths have been leaving it in droves. It's undereducated and essentially perfect for the modern GOP.
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« Reply #11 on: April 06, 2024, 09:12:24 PM »
« Edited: April 06, 2024, 09:40:50 PM by FT-02 Senator A.F.E. 🇵🇸🤝🇺🇸🤝🇺🇦 »

After the skibidi toilet factories started to close after increased foreign competition due to our fanum taxes, the economic devastation caused by the decline of manufacturing jobs lead to their former workers to see Trump as being a based sigma and the Dems as a whole having L rizz.
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« Reply #12 on: April 06, 2024, 09:38:54 PM »

The partisan coalition shifted over the past 20 years, and this was particularly felt in Ohio.

The rise of a more populist and Nationalist Republican Party, and rise of a more cultured and urbane Democratic Party, meant that the Republicans gained ground in Ohio and the Democrats lost it.

Ohio doesn't really major urban centers and major suburbs to balance this shift out either. In Michigan and Pennsylvania (two similar states), the gains the Democrats have made in the Detroit, Philly and Pittsburgh suburbs have counteracted rural losses. That hasn't been the case with Ohio city suburbs.

Yeah. If you look at the main OH cities, their suburbs aren't even that favorable to Dems; Cinci has a lot of lower education WWC suburbs that have drifted right, and Cinci has a ring of ultra conservative suburbs that have cultural reasons for being so R.

And likewise for Cleveland. Really out of OH's Big 3 metro areas, only the suburbs around Columbus behave like typical suburbs - places like Delaware County that have higher levels of education/wealth have swung predictably leftward.

Delaware County (Columbus suburbs): Romney+23, Trump+7
Geauga County (Cleveland suburbs): Romney+21, Trump+23
Butler County (Cincinatti suburbs): Romney+25, Trump+24

...Spot the odd one out.
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« Reply #13 on: April 06, 2024, 10:13:02 PM »

Biden was fully aware of the deadline and chose to ignore it, he is 9 pts down anyways in OH, all that matters is Sherrod Brown whom is on the ballot wins
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« Reply #14 on: April 07, 2024, 12:53:04 AM »

The partisan coalition shifted over the past 20 years, and this was particularly felt in Ohio.

The rise of a more populist and Nationalist Republican Party, and rise of a more cultured and urbane Democratic Party, meant that the Republicans gained ground in Ohio and the Democrats lost it.

Ohio doesn't really major urban centers and major suburbs to balance this shift out either. In Michigan and Pennsylvania (two similar states), the gains the Democrats have made in the Detroit, Philly and Pittsburgh suburbs have counteracted rural losses. That hasn't been the case with Ohio city suburbs.

Yeah. If you look at the main OH cities, their suburbs aren't even that favorable to Dems; Cinci has a lot of lower education WWC suburbs that have drifted right, and Cinci has a ring of ultra conservative suburbs that have cultural reasons for being so R.

And likewise for Cleveland. Really out of OH's Big 3 metro areas, only the suburbs around Columbus behave like typical suburbs - places like Delaware County that have higher levels of education/wealth have swung predictably leftward.

Delaware County (Columbus suburbs): Romney+23, Trump+7
Geauga County (Cleveland suburbs): Romney+21, Trump+23
Butler County (Cincinatti suburbs): Romney+25, Trump+24

...Spot the odd one out.

Warren County actually had some decent leftward movement.
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« Reply #15 on: April 07, 2024, 01:37:24 AM »

Also Geauga county's more rural than suburban.
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« Reply #16 on: April 09, 2024, 09:50:33 PM »

Also Geauga county's more rural than suburban.

Is Lake more suburban?
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« Reply #17 on: April 10, 2024, 09:42:19 PM »


Yes, Lake is suburban and Geauga is small town/rural.
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« Reply #18 on: April 24, 2024, 06:38:37 PM »

The partisan coalition shifted over the past 20 years, and this was particularly felt in Ohio.

The rise of a more populist and Nationalist Republican Party, and rise of a more cultured and urbane Democratic Party, meant that the Republicans gained ground in Ohio and the Democrats lost it.

Ohio doesn't really major urban centers and major suburbs to balance this shift out either. In Michigan and Pennsylvania (two similar states), the gains the Democrats have made in the Detroit, Philly and Pittsburgh suburbs have counteracted rural losses. That hasn't been the case with Ohio city suburbs.

Yeah. If you look at the main OH cities, their suburbs aren't even that favorable to Dems; Cinci has a lot of lower education WWC suburbs that have drifted right, and Cinci has a ring of ultra conservative suburbs that have cultural reasons for being so R.

Why are Cincy burbs so red?
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« Reply #19 on: April 24, 2024, 11:26:49 PM »

The partisan coalition shifted over the past 20 years, and this was particularly felt in Ohio.

The rise of a more populist and Nationalist Republican Party, and rise of a more cultured and urbane Democratic Party, meant that the Republicans gained ground in Ohio and the Democrats lost it.

Ohio doesn't really major urban centers and major suburbs to balance this shift out either. In Michigan and Pennsylvania (two similar states), the gains the Democrats have made in the Detroit, Philly and Pittsburgh suburbs have counteracted rural losses. That hasn't been the case with Ohio city suburbs.

Yeah. If you look at the main OH cities, their suburbs aren't even that favorable to Dems; Cinci has a lot of lower education WWC suburbs that have drifted right, and Cinci has a ring of ultra conservative suburbs that have cultural reasons for being so R.

Why are Cincy burbs so red?

Short answer is racial sorting and high German ancestry (German ancestry is a very R favorable group).
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« Reply #20 on: April 24, 2024, 11:54:33 PM »

The effects of deindustrializationand the GOP changing a bit its rethoric to appeal on affected areas.
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