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« on: June 17, 2007, 06:36:22 PM »

Interesting race, because the libertarians would vote overwhelmingly for the Democrat.

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« Reply #1 on: June 17, 2007, 06:57:54 PM »

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« Reply #2 on: June 17, 2007, 07:10:25 PM »

thered be a third party conservative.
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« Reply #3 on: June 17, 2007, 07:11:40 PM »


Dean'd win. You think Mitty's pro-war and extreme anti-gun views would play well?
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« Reply #4 on: June 18, 2007, 01:45:27 AM »

perhaps the anti gun stance would draw some democrats and left-leaning indies, and the pro war stance will help keep the GOP base solid in his column. With no major Perotesque third party to choose from, Mitty would win.
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« Reply #5 on: June 18, 2007, 01:48:45 AM »

perhaps the anti gun stance would draw some democrats and left-leaning indies, and the pro war stance will help keep the GOP base solid in his column. With no major Perotesque third party to choose from, Mitty would win.

Nah, there's WAY more single issue pro-gun than anti-gun voters, and Mitty's views on the issue are WAY too extreme for the country, while Dean is mainstream. Keep in mind Walter actually advocates CONFISCATION of firearms.
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« Reply #6 on: June 18, 2007, 12:56:14 PM »

can you really see any NRA'ers voting for the Vermont liberal Dean?
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« Reply #7 on: June 18, 2007, 12:59:40 PM »

Against Walter? Of course. Dean would win the NRA endorsement hands down, he does have an A rating from them after all. No person in this country that advocates that citizens be required to surrender handguns and assault weapons to federal authorities will ever win an election, and being pro-war now definitely wouldn't help.
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« Reply #8 on: June 18, 2007, 01:05:26 PM »

Who is WalterMitty ?
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« Reply #9 on: June 19, 2007, 02:37:28 PM »

can you really see any NRA'ers voting for the Vermont liberal Dean?

If I recall correctly, Dean had an A rating from the NRA; if the organization itself can be fine with him, I don't see why voters wouldn't be.
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« Reply #10 on: June 19, 2007, 05:19:19 PM »

can you really see any NRA'ers voting for the Vermont liberal Dean?

If I recall correctly, Dean had an A rating from the NRA; if the organization itself can be fine with him, I don't see why voters wouldn't be.

Yeah, my mistake. I forgot how gun-friendly Vermont was, especially for a strong dem state. Still, I don't see conservatives voting for Dean at all.
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« Reply #11 on: June 19, 2007, 07:34:42 PM »

Dean doesn't want to piss off Muslims overseas and fuch up Iraq plus he's pro gun.  Definitely Dean, although I'd easily vote for him if a standard dullard LP member ran.
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« Reply #12 on: June 19, 2007, 07:45:43 PM »

can you really see any NRA'ers voting for the Vermont liberal Dean?

If I recall correctly, Dean had an A rating from the NRA; if the organization itself can be fine with him, I don't see why voters wouldn't be.

Yeah, my mistake. I forgot how gun-friendly Vermont was, especially for a strong dem state. Still, I don't see conservatives voting for Dean at all.

But what does Walter agree with them on? Remember that many conservatives are now anti-war too. There is no reason at all for an anti-war/pro-gun voter to vote for Walter, and that makes up a significant percentage of the electorate at the moment. Throw in all standard liberals and partisan Democrats, and Dean has a pretty large base.
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« Reply #13 on: June 19, 2007, 07:51:59 PM »

Gun-owners would not vote for Mitty because of his anti-gun views.

Union members would note vote for Mitty because of his anti-Union views.

Liberals would not vote for Mitty because of his foreign policy views (if Mitty had a red avatar, he would be chastised as a DINO because of Iraq).

Libertarians would not vote for Mitty because of his views on gun control and universal healthcare.

Social Conservatives would not vote for Mitty because of his views on abortion, gay marriage, and immigration.

Gerald Ford Republicans would not vote for Mitty because they don't exist anymore.
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« Reply #14 on: June 19, 2007, 08:51:19 PM »

Gun-owners would not vote for Mitty because of his anti-gun views.

Union members would note vote for Mitty because of his anti-Union views.

Liberals would not vote for Mitty because of his foreign policy views (if Mitty had a red avatar, he would be chastised as a DINO because of Iraq).

Libertarians would not vote for Mitty because of his views on gun control and universal healthcare.

Social Conservatives would not vote for Mitty because of his views on abortion, gay marriage, and immigration.

Gerald Ford Republicans would not vote for Mitty because they don't exist anymore.

Then there's the people who just vote for whoever has an "R" next to their name, which is enough to carry much of the Midwest and South.
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« Reply #15 on: June 19, 2007, 08:59:24 PM »

And not enough states to win. Actually, I could see Dean carrying the south (low evangelical turnout + he still gets the black vote)
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« Reply #16 on: June 19, 2007, 09:10:38 PM »



I see this kind of thing happening, actually.
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« Reply #17 on: June 20, 2007, 12:14:03 AM »
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There is no way in hell Walter would EVER win WV. He calls unions "organized crime" and says he is disgusted at any Republican who ever takes money from them. He hates unions more than anything else and would be lucky to break 40%. He also wouldn't win Ohio with his extreme hatred of protectionism and the fact that he thinks Bob Taft is a great guy. Dean could easily win a state Sherrod Brown did.

He definitely wouldn't win Iowa either. Iowa's a dovish, pro-gun state, and leans more toward protectionism than free trade.
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« Reply #18 on: June 20, 2007, 12:42:20 AM »

What do I know, im a bit of a noob around here... If WalterMitty could keep his mouth shut on some things, he'd win.
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« Reply #19 on: June 20, 2007, 12:12:33 PM »

What do I know, im a bit of a noob around here... If WalterMitty could keep his mouth shut on some things, he'd win.

Hatred of unions and free trade are some of his top issues. He'd get owned in the entire Rust Belt. He might even have some difficulty in protectionist/pro-gun NC. Like I said, Dean might even win some Deep South states, it wouldn't be that hard actually, you just need a very low white conservative turnout (likely with Walter) and decent black turnout.
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« Reply #20 on: June 20, 2007, 02:13:02 PM »

Gun-owners would not vote for Mitty because of his anti-gun views.

Union members would note vote for Mitty because of his anti-Union views.

Liberals would not vote for Mitty because of his foreign policy views (if Mitty had a red avatar, he would be chastised as a DINO because of Iraq).

Libertarians would not vote for Mitty because of his views on gun control and universal healthcare.

Social Conservatives would not vote for Mitty because of his views on abortion, gay marriage, and immigration.

Gerald Ford Republicans would not vote for Mitty because they don't exist anymore.

Good break down, though his hatred of unions would scare of Liberals as well. That's what would prevent me from voting for him. I could overlook his stance on Iraq.
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« Reply #21 on: June 20, 2007, 02:23:17 PM »

I'd probably through a vote to Mitty, but I'd expect Dean to win it.
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« Reply #22 on: June 20, 2007, 02:28:01 PM »

Actually, I haven't been a big fan of Dean since he spoke at the Liberal Party convention last year. I think I would hold my nose and vote for Walter.
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« Reply #23 on: June 20, 2007, 03:19:19 PM »


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Mitty

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« Reply #24 on: June 20, 2007, 04:16:01 PM »

Hell I'd probably beat him as I would have a base
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