Biden campaign to expand map with Texas and Florida

[🇺🇦 Purple 🦄 Unicorn 🇮🇱]

Biden team eyes expanding map to Texas, Florida despite Trump leads

Officials see ‘multiple paths’ to second term and ‘a very tough, close race’

https://rollcall.com/2024/03/18/biden-team-eyes-expanding-map-to-texas-florida-despite-trump-leads/

[🇺🇦 Purple 🦄 Unicorn 🇮🇱]

Probably both are unwinnable, but they have the money to expand.

Better invest the money and lose, than not invest.

[Beet]

Expanding the map to North Carolina was smart, given that he only lost it by 1 in 2020 (which I didn't know).

Expanding it to Florida and Texas is dumb as hell.

[wbrocks67]

I mean, Texas and Florida are quite different - I think money would go a long way better in TX than FL right now, but hey, if they have the money, and they have enough spent in the rest of the swing states, why not. TX is an important long term investment, as well as of course the Cruz/Allred race this year.

I personally don't think Florida is worth even trying at this point given the trends of who is living there, but if Biden truly is doing better with seniors, sure who knows.

[wbrocks67]

Expanding the map to North Carolina was smart, given that he only lost it by 1 in 2020 (which I didn't know).

Expanding it to Florida and Texas is dumb as hell.

This fundamentally ignores what it's trying to say. They're not expanding the map in terms of giving TX and FL the same attention as the rest of the swing states, it sounds like they're just looking at them in terms of investment in addition to maximizing out the rest of the swing states.

[🇺🇦 Purple 🦄 Unicorn 🇮🇱]

If they are making a play for TX, it would be good for turnout and the Senate race.

TX has the potential for a close Senate race, FL maybe not so much. But if it gets closer, major D investments would be welcome in Florida too.

[ProudModerate2]

Can someone please forward this famous Bugs Bunny cartoon scene, to the Biden campaign ...

[President Johnson]

I strongly agree on Texas, but Florida? Haven't we learned our lessons? It's not going to happen. The only purpose it may serve is forcing Republicans to play some defense. Trump's campaign so far has much fewer financial ressources than Biden and any dime he spends here can't be spent in the Rust Belt Trio and four Sunbelt battlegrounds (Georgia, North Carolina, Arizona and Nevada).

[dspNY]

My guess is this is more for the senate races than actually flipping them in the presidential election (although Texas is a very good long term investment)

[Podgy the Bear]

This is fine.  Put some money and resources there.  The Democrats have only one way to go in FL, and that's up. 

No one is thinking Biden can win either TX or FL, but get started now at the local levels, and things will start to move forward in 2026 and 2028.  Hopefully, the state legislatures in those states will become competitive.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Biden best bet is NC and split vote with Colin Allred I don't see him winning FL with DeSantis, TX is fertile ground

[Eraserhead]

Waste of money.

[ajc0918]

I wouldn't take this comment as campaign strategy but just that these states are on the cusp of competitiveness. The midwest (PA, MI, WI) versus the sunbelt path (GA, AZ, NC) are the easiest paths for Biden.

[wbrocks67]

Waste of money.

Once again, it sounds like they're only doing this once they've fully allocated all the $$$ they need for the important states. At some point, you have diminishing returns, so you might as well spend it here then if you're done with the other swing states.

[DrScholl]

Leaving states with +20 electoral votes on the table is what is dumb. It's not Biden's job to go easy on Trump and take states off the table to make it easier to win. I'll maintain that Texas is winnable due to the potential for heavy trends and with Republicans likely having money trouble it is good to outpace them wherever possible.

[ajc0918]

The Biden campaign will have more resources than the Trump campaign. Any dollar the Trump campaign is forced to spend in TX/FL is a dollar they can't spend in PA/WI/MI/AZ/GA. I don't mind the Biden campaign going after these states assuming the swing state coordinated campaigns are fully funded.

[2016]

Expanding the map to North Carolina was smart, given that he only lost it by 1 in 2020 (which I didn't know).

Expanding it to Florida and Texas is dumb as hell.

The only reason to expand it to Texas & Florida maybe because of the Senate Races otherwise it makes no political sense.

You gotta first secure MN, MI, WI, PA and then when you have a reasonable lead there expand to other States.

The Biden Campaign is stupid as hell.

[ajc0918]

Expanding the map to North Carolina was smart, given that he only lost it by 1 in 2020 (which I didn't know).

Expanding it to Florida and Texas is dumb as hell.

The only reason to expand it to Texas & Florida maybe because of the Senate Races otherwise it makes no political sense.

You gotta first secure MN, MI, WI, PA and then when you have a reasonable lead there expand to other States.

The Biden Campaign is stupid as hell.

Do you expect them to say "we're not going to compete in Florida and Texas?" They're not going to say that.

[DrScholl]

Expanding the map to North Carolina was smart, given that he only lost it by 1 in 2020 (which I didn't know).

Expanding it to Florida and Texas is dumb as hell.

The only reason to expand it to Texas & Florida maybe because of the Senate Races otherwise it makes no political sense.

You gotta first secure MN, MI, WI, PA and then when you have a reasonable lead there expand to other States.

The Biden Campaign is stupid as hell.

They have plenty of money to put resources into all those states. It's the Trump campaign that is going to have to be selective about where to compete and considering the state of the RNC finances Minnesota is off the table.

[2016]

Leaving states with +20 electoral votes on the table is what is dumb. It's not Biden's job to go easy on Trump and take states off the table to make it easier to win. I'll maintain that Texas is winnable due to the potential for heavy trends and with Republicans likely having money trouble it is good to outpace them wherever possible.

Texas is unwinable because of the Border Issue. Voters still preferring Trump over Biden on the Border by nearly 25 Points.

The gains Biden makes in the suburban Counties around the Dallas/Ft. Worth areas he will lose in the Rio Grande Valley.

Biden hasn't gotten over the hump on the Border. It was his Executive Orders in 2021 that has gotten the United States into this migrant mess and Biden will be reminded of it a lot more as it gets closer to Election Day.

How do you close a 650,000 Raw Vote Gap in Texas. Trump will still get over 50 % in the Lone Star State come November.

The Biden Campaign is overextending themselves. All these Ads Biden has run thus far have unfortunately fallen on deaf ears.

[Ljube]

Looking more and more like the Hillary Clinton campaign.

[oldtimer]

Expanding the map to North Carolina was smart, given that he only lost it by 1 in 2020 (which I didn't know).

Expanding it to Florida and Texas is dumb as hell.

The only reason to expand it to Texas & Florida maybe because of the Senate Races otherwise it makes no political sense.

You gotta first secure MN, MI, WI, PA and then when you have a reasonable lead there expand to other States.

The Biden Campaign is stupid as hell.

They have plenty of money to put resources into all those states. It's the Trump campaign that is going to have to be selective about where to compete and considering the state of the RNC finances Minnesota is off the table.

By all means Biden can throw money in Kentucky if he wants too, but he's not going to even reduce the margin.

[DrScholl]

Leaving states with +20 electoral votes on the table is what is dumb. It's not Biden's job to go easy on Trump and take states off the table to make it easier to win. I'll maintain that Texas is winnable due to the potential for heavy trends and with Republicans likely having money trouble it is good to outpace them wherever possible.

Texas is unwinable because of the Border Issue. Voters still preferring Trump over Biden on the Border by nearly 25 Points.

The gains Biden makes in the suburban Counties around the Dallas/Ft. Worth areas he will lose in the Rio Grande Valley.

Biden hasn't gotten over the hump on the Border. It was his Executive Orders in 2021 that has gotten the United States into this migrant mess and Biden will be reminded of it a lot more as it gets closer to Election Day.

How do you close a 650,000 Raw Vote Gap in Texas. Trump will still get over 50 % in the Lone Star State come November.

The Biden Campaign is overextending themselves. All these Ads Biden has run thus far have unfortunately fallen on deaf ears.

I didn't ask for your opinion. But for one thing the Rio Grande Valley is a fairly small percentage of the statewide vote. If you're so secure that Trump wins you don't need to make a page long post trying to convince me.

Biden's campaign has far more money than Trump's so he's not overextending.

[2016]

Looking more and more like the Hillary Clinton campaign.

Clinton had 4 Times more money than Trump in 2016, still lost so you may have a valid Point here.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Waste of money.

Biden actually has money to burn though, and Trump won't.