How can Trump be seen as 'tough on crime' when he's vouching to release Jan 6 criminals on day 1?
       |           

Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?
April 28, 2024, 06:32:18 PM
News: Election Simulator 2.0 Released. Senate/Gubernatorial maps, proportional electoral votes, and more - Read more

  Talk Elections
  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion
  2024 U.S. Presidential Election (Moderators: Likely Voter, GeorgiaModerate, KoopaDaQuick 🇵🇸)
  How can Trump be seen as 'tough on crime' when he's vouching to release Jan 6 criminals on day 1?
« previous next »
Pages: 1 [2]
Author Topic: How can Trump be seen as 'tough on crime' when he's vouching to release Jan 6 criminals on day 1?  (Read 819 times)
Atlas Has Shrugged
ChairmanSanchez
Atlas Superstar
*****
Posts: 38,095
United States


Political Matrix
E: 5.29, S: -5.04


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #25 on: March 17, 2024, 09:12:13 PM »

The most appropriate analogy, jokes about Ferguson being the 20th hijacker aside, is actually the Reichstag fire.
Closest we've ever seen Fuzzy admit Trump is guilty
I'm not Fuzzy, I'm worse!
Logged
All Along The Watchtower
Progressive Realist
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 15,506
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #26 on: March 18, 2024, 05:01:42 PM »

January 6
vs
open borders, no cash bail, and George Soros DAs etc

Yes — Democrats really have a lane in the “tough on crime” argument

Are January 6 criminals not real criminals? That argument is asinine. Trump is literally saying "let's let a thousand criminals out on the street on day 1" - if you honestly believe that is comparable to any of what you mentioned then you're completely dense

Of course they're real criminals, but the actions of the January 6th rioters don't affect people's day to day lives in the way that the threat of murders and carjackings do.

It’s not the President’s job to enforce state and local laws. Take it up with the mayors and Governors.

It is the President’s job to leave office if he loses re-election, as opposed to lying about the results, inciting his supporters against Congress, and otherwise overstating his welcome through chaos and chicanery. I agree that many/most of the January 6th rioters aren’t dangerous criminals, and it’s not right that so far they’ve faced criminal consequences while the leader of the cult is a free man who has a good shot of becoming President again.
Logged
Associate Justice PiT
PiT (The Physicist)
Atlas Politician
Atlas Superstar
*****
Posts: 31,175
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #27 on: March 18, 2024, 05:37:39 PM »

January 6
vs
open borders, no cash bail, and George Soros DAs etc

Yes — Democrats really have a lane in the “tough on crime” argument

Are January 6 criminals not real criminals? That argument is asinine. Trump is literally saying "let's let a thousand criminals out on the street on day 1" - if you honestly believe that is comparable to any of what you mentioned then you're completely dense

Of course they're real criminals, but the actions of the January 6th rioters don't affect people's day to day lives in the way that the threat of murders and carjackings do.

It’s not the President’s job to enforce state and local laws. Take it up with the mayors and Governors.

It is the President’s job to leave office if he loses re-election, as opposed to lying about the results, inciting his supporters against Congress, and otherwise overstating his welcome through chaos and chicanery. I agree that many/most of the January 6th rioters aren’t dangerous criminals, and it’s not right that so far they’ve faced criminal consequences while the leader of the cult is a free man who has a good shot of becoming President again.

     I will say, this is by far the most coherent defense of the topic title. The issue is that some of this is up to Biden (e.g. borders) and for the parts that aren't, he is seen as the leader of the Democratic Party anyway. Trying to argue that Dems are the tough-on-crime party isn't going to be viable until leading Democrats actually speak up on the issue of crime effectively being legalized in cities like San Francisco, because it looks like a political calculus instead of a genuine commitment to building a functioning society.
Logged
jaichind
Atlas Star
*****
Posts: 27,583
United States


Political Matrix
E: 9.03, S: -5.39

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #28 on: March 19, 2024, 03:53:06 AM »

Those that went into the Captial Building are not criminals.  They are undocumented tourists. 
Logged
Middle-aged Europe
Old Europe
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 17,221
Ukraine


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #29 on: March 19, 2024, 04:06:01 AM »

It's not illegal when the president patriots do it!
Logged
ProudModerate2
Atlas Star
*****
Posts: 20,460
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #30 on: March 19, 2024, 11:40:41 AM »

... than some boomers walking around the Capitol.


... to people who were standing in a building they weren't allowed to.

This is how deluded some conservatives are about January 6th.
Fox News brainwashing at work.
Logged
Progressive Pessimist
Atlas Superstar
*****
Posts: 33,151
United States


Political Matrix
E: -6.71, S: -7.65

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #31 on: March 19, 2024, 04:23:44 PM »

He is apparently considering bringing Paul Manafort back to the campaign too.
Logged
DrScholl
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 18,148
United States


Political Matrix
E: -5.55, S: -3.30

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #32 on: March 19, 2024, 04:26:50 PM »

January 6
vs
open borders, no cash bail, and George Soros DAs etc

Yes — Democrats really have a lane in the “tough on crime” argument

You're an antisemite.
Logged
DrScholl
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 18,148
United States


Political Matrix
E: -5.55, S: -3.30

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #33 on: March 19, 2024, 04:29:01 PM »

As already stated "tough on crime" is about locking up non-white people. Crimes committed for political reasons are perfectly acceptable. These days Lee Harvey Oswald would have been given a medal by the RNC and a pardon.
Logged
Ferguson97
Atlas Star
*****
Posts: 28,116
United States


P P P
Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #34 on: March 19, 2024, 07:19:52 PM »

... than some boomers walking around the Capitol.


... to people who were standing in a building they weren't allowed to.

This is how deluded some conservatives are about January 6th.
Fox News brainwashing at work.

Logged
Pages: 1 [2]  
« previous next »
Jump to:  


Login with username, password and session length

Terms of Service - DMCA Agent and Policy - Privacy Policy and Cookies

Powered by SMF 1.1.21 | SMF © 2015, Simple Machines

Page created in 0.032 seconds with 12 queries.