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« on: March 16, 2024, 12:02:48 AM »

Suppose Democrats roll a six with the senate races. Tester and Brown win re-election. President Biden wins re-election and Demcorats take back the House.

Will "Build Back Better" finally pass? Manchin and Sinema will be gone. Tester, Brown, Gallego and Fetterman all support popular policies like paid leave, child care, universal pre-k etc.

Could we finally kill the filibuster? Abolish the debt ceiling? Pass popular policies like public option, immigration reform, voting rights, PRO Act?
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« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2024, 12:08:34 AM »

Warner will definitely be one of the new rotating villains.
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« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2024, 12:16:09 AM »

I'm not entirely certain about BBB, since this bill contains many provisions that are economically liberal, which special interest donors would oppose (remember that the $15 minimum wage provision had other Democratic senators oppose it besides Manchin & Sinema). On the other hand, a nationwide abortion rights bill might stand a better chance of being passed, since it pertains to a social issue (and most corporations have adopted socially liberal positions because they understand the need to appeal to a wide range of demographic groups) and could even increase the profits of the health care/insurance industries.
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« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2024, 12:19:00 AM »

Probably. Manchin and Sinema were the holdouts on a sweeping BBB plan, and then Manchin was the one who actually killed it. But they'll both be gone.

Feinstein will also be gone, she was someone many thought Manchin and Sinema were giving cover on the filibuster. So abolishing the filibuster might also be possible but I think more likely they do some kind of "reform" like talking filibusters only.

Of course, they can pass BBB with reconciliation, but they need to kill the filibuster for things like a large minimum wage increase, codifying Roe, or the voting rights legislation that failed last session.
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« Reply #4 on: March 16, 2024, 04:52:48 AM »

The Filibuster proof Trifecta will be the best time for Ds unlike naysayers like OSR whom supports R obstruction and thinks tax for the wealthy is such a good idea, and don't forget about reparations, that reparations do get put into this. Student loan forgiveness and Gun control broad background check
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« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2024, 04:56:15 AM »

as with all giant hand outs to unions, it's all in how Biden can sell it to the voters (he still seems to be under the impression that "herp derp, buy American" is a good idea and Americans by and large seem to agree with him, so maybe) and how well the opposition can point out how bad it will be for America.
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« Reply #6 on: March 16, 2024, 08:02:19 AM »

BBB was a relief post covid bill, but maybe some parta of it will try yo be passed.
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« Reply #7 on: March 16, 2024, 10:02:22 AM »

Without Manchin and Sinema, there won't be any opposition to DC Statehood, so that will probably mean 2 more progressive senators to help out a bit. Puerto Rico statehood probably has the votes as well (or at least AOC's PR statehood-maybe bill), though that could end up sending centrist or even Republican senators to balance them out.
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« Reply #8 on: March 16, 2024, 01:21:56 PM »

BBB was a relief post covid bill, but maybe some parta of it will try yo be passed.


We still need to pass Green new Deal but that's not the only piece of the legislature that will be passed Medicare for All, Gun control reparations all on raising taxes on rich.


We know taxing the rich won't close the deficit but it will improve the deficit than cuts
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« Reply #9 on: March 16, 2024, 01:26:18 PM »

The last human being to unironically utter the words "Build Back Better" did so on June 17th 2021.
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« Reply #10 on: March 16, 2024, 01:44:33 PM »

Without Manchin and Sinema, there won't be any opposition to DC Statehood, so that will probably mean 2 more progressive senators to help out a bit.

Doesn't it have to get through filibuster though?
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« Reply #11 on: March 16, 2024, 04:15:04 PM »

Without Manchin and Sinema, there won't be any opposition to DC Statehood, so that will probably mean 2 more progressive senators to help out a bit.

Doesn't it have to get through filibuster though?

Who knows? Back in 2021, the common argument is that admission of new states is covered in the Constitution, so filibuster arguably doesn't apply. Ultimately it will come down to whether 50 Senators buy that argument, because if they do, Harris could rule the filibuster out of order and then the 50 Democrats could vote down a Republican attempt to overrule her. This would keep the filibuster in place for legislative matters. This idea was never actually tested in 2021 because Manchin came out against DC statehood entirely.

My assumption is that without Manchin, Sinema, or Feinstein, there would probably not be any Democratic Senators opposed to this line of thinking, but maybe someone who didn't speak out against in back in 2021 suddenly will. Ultimately if Democrats get 50 senators who want to admit new states, Republicans won't be able to stop it.
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« Reply #12 on: March 16, 2024, 05:38:12 PM »

No.  Democrats will have some new pet project if they have a trifecta in 2025, presumably some “democracy” reforms that will get pushed after another close call vs Trump.
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« Reply #13 on: March 16, 2024, 05:50:51 PM »

No.  Democrats will have some new pet project if they have a trifecta in 2025, presumably some “democracy” reforms that will get pushed after another close call vs Trump.

Inshallah.
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« Reply #14 on: March 18, 2024, 04:16:27 AM »

No.  Democrats will have some new pet project if they have a trifecta in 2025, presumably some “democracy” reforms that will get pushed after another close call vs Trump.

The Freedom to Vote Act (formerly the For the People Act) and the John Lewis Voting Rights Act are two of the highest Democratic priorities. That is not news.

As for the topic question, I'm sure there are a number of provisions in the original larger bill that would be priorities in a new bill (such as a paid leave benefit).
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« Reply #15 on: March 18, 2024, 10:58:29 AM »
« Edited: March 18, 2024, 11:01:58 AM by Tutankhuman Bakari Sellers »

Again, Congress enacted stimulus checks for only the elderly with the RH 2200 with, we need a D Congress to enact Stimulus for everyone.

I just read it and was mad but I know Spk Johnson did that not Schumer or Biden only for Seniors stimulus , if he passed it for everyone he could keep the H, but he is endangered all the swing districts are in PA, CA, AZ, NJ, VA and NY
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« Reply #16 on: March 18, 2024, 06:34:23 PM »

At the very least the childcare, child tax credit, and paid family leave policies should be pursued again.
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