Bloomberg: Where new migrants are going when they reach the US

[pikachu]

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Doesn’t tell us anything we didn’t know, but it’s a cool data viz. Wonder if the asylum surge has been high enough to counter covid-era population loss in NYC and Chicago

[Del Tachi]

Nashville seems strangely prominent on this map.  Like, I wouldn't have expected it to be almost on-par with Denver, or larger than KC or St. Louis.

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[Santander]

lol, even migrants are staying the f away from the Bay Area and PNW.

[patzer]

The obvious conclusion I would draw from this, is that there would probably be value in making a visa allowing for relatively easy immigration to the US but with the condition that the migrant in question lives only in certain areas (e.g. counties which have declining populations)?

[pikachu]

The obvious conclusion I would draw from this, is that there would probably be value in making a visa allowing for relatively easy immigration to the US but with the condition that the migrant in question lives only in certain areas (e.g. counties which have declining populations)?

This kind of what already happens, but not in the way that people who’ve proposed this idea think it does, which is a scheme for Rust Belt revitalization. A lot of major American cities this century owe their growth entirely to immigration, and if you were to do the most basic criteria for this today even (make it easier to immigrate to places where domestic emigration is greater than immigration), that clearly includes places like NYC, LA, SF, snd Chicago.

[Indy Texas]

Nashville seems strangely prominent on this map.  Like, I wouldn't have expected it to be almost on-par with Denver, or larger than KC or St. Louis.

It's been growing at a healthy clip, meaning plenty of unmet demand for service and construction jobs.

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lol, even migrants are staying the f away from the Bay Area and PNW.

Go back to your chevre croquettes and filet mignon, you pretentious East Coast snob. "If we get rid of them, who's going to clean your toilets?"

[Agonized-Statism]

The decline of the West Coast is palpable. It's a plutocratic hellscape that long ago exceeded ecological carrying capacity, where ordinary people are attacked by shrieking homeless marauders until they fall down the socioeconomic ladder enough to join their ranks. Not surprised no one sees any opportunity in it. What's going on there isn't sustainable. I'm surprised LA has gotten as many migrants as it has.

[pikachu]

The decline of the West Coast is palpable. It's a plutocratic hellscape that long ago exceeded ecological carrying capacity, where ordinary people are attacked by shrieking homeless marauders until they fall down the socioeconomic ladder enough to join their ranks. Not surprised no one sees any opportunity in it. What's going on there isn't sustainable. I'm surprised LA has gotten as many migrants as it has.

This is kinda dramatic lol. But the serious answer is that LA’s a major city to the southern border, it already has the second biggest immigrant communities in the country and network effects are going to lead more migrants to come there.

E.g. if you’re a Mexican, Central American, Chinese, or a bunch of other nationalities, you’re more likely to know someone in LA than other cities, and they can get you work, a place to stay, etc etc.

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The decline of the West Coast is palpable. It's a plutocratic hellscape that long ago exceeded ecological carrying capacity, where ordinary people are attacked by shrieking homeless marauders until they fall down the socioeconomic ladder enough to join their ranks. Not surprised no one sees any opportunity in it. What's going on there isn't sustainable. I'm surprised LA has gotten as many migrants as it has.

This is kinda dramatic lol. But the serious answer is that LA’s a major city to the southern border, it already has the second biggest immigrant communities in the country and network effects are going to lead more migrants to come there.

E.g. if you’re a Mexican, Central American, Chinese, or a bunch of other nationalities, you’re more likely to know someone in LA than other cities, and they can get you work, a place to stay, etc etc.

This dynamic plus some added factors are why Denver is so high on this list.

Denver has been an overflow destination for border crossings in Texas because it's the largest city satisfying each of the following: (1) in a blue state close to Texas, (2) massive metro area with a (3) large pre-existing Latino community.

Texas and other nearby red states would push back too much to be on the receiving end of this large of a migrant wave (I wouldn't be surprised if Arizona was a tough sell too). Albuquerque is too small. Southern California is too far away. So for the last couple years a massive number of people showing up at Texas border crossings have been put on busses to Denver and told to figure out their next step on their own. Some of them have been leaving, often for Chicago or New York, but a lot of them have been staying.

(this is also why the PNW is underrepresented here... no pre-existing community and geographically isolated from places where most migrants are entering the country)

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The decline of the West Coast is palpable. It's a plutocratic hellscape that long ago exceeded ecological carrying capacity, where ordinary people are attacked by shrieking homeless marauders until they fall down the socioeconomic ladder enough to join their ranks. Not surprised no one sees any opportunity in it. What's going on there isn't sustainable. I'm surprised LA has gotten as many migrants as it has.

This is kinda dramatic lol. But the serious answer is that LA’s a major city to the southern border, it already has the second biggest immigrant communities in the country and network effects are going to lead more migrants to come there.

E.g. if you’re a Mexican, Central American, Chinese, or a bunch of other nationalities, you’re more likely to know someone in LA than other cities, and they can get you work, a place to stay, etc etc.

This dynamic plus some added factors are why Denver is so high on this list.

Denver has been an overflow destination for border crossings in Texas because it's the largest city satisfying each of the following: (1) in a blue state close to Texas, (2) massive metro area with a (3) large pre-existing Latino community.

Texas and other nearby red states would push back too much to be on the receiving end of this large of a migrant wave (I wouldn't be surprised if Arizona was a tough sell too). Albuquerque is too small. Southern California is too far away. So for the last couple years a massive number of people showing up at Texas border crossings have been put on busses to Denver and told to figure out their next step on their own. Some of them have been leaving, often for Chicago or New York, but a lot of them have been staying.

(this is also why the PNW is underrepresented here... no pre-existing community and geographically isolated from places where most migrants are entering the country)

This is the more important part. Although I do wonder if Portland's reputation for human trafficking could be another factor somehow...

[bagelman]

It seems that the east is making a comeback, but while there's discussion about the west coast declining, there seems to be very little revitalization of the rust belt.