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« on: March 14, 2024, 09:48:08 AM »

Kamala Harris will be the first President or VP to visit an abortion clinic. She’ll be doing so in Minneapolis.

This is a striking change from the past. Do you think this helps the campaign? How will Republicans react?
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« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2024, 09:51:06 AM »

Good. Republicans will be triggered, which is fine.
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« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2024, 09:52:02 AM »

I don't think it would change things much, at much convincing some hundreds of pro choice women to turnout.
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« Reply #3 on: March 14, 2024, 09:52:41 AM »

Dems still shouldn't overreach here. The majority of Americans support access to abortion, but not unlimited and late term. Our position should be that abortion must be legal but rare.
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« Reply #4 on: March 14, 2024, 09:53:20 AM »

The best political strategy for Democrats is to let Republicans continue what they're doing with abortion laws. Simply not being associated with the GOP is enough to decisively win this issue.
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« Reply #5 on: March 14, 2024, 09:54:55 AM »

At her age??
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« Reply #6 on: March 14, 2024, 09:55:42 AM »

Harris is not the candidate. It is Biden, who voters know has private pro-life views from his record as a Senator and his fear of even using the word abortion, while Trump is probably privately pro-choice.
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« Reply #7 on: March 14, 2024, 10:01:37 AM »

It obviously helps Joe, shores up a critical state like Minnesota that they are not taking for granted. The Biden folks have suddenly been firing on all cylinders ever since SOTU, almost like a sudden blitzkrieg of campaign moves that has been planned for awhile, and deliberately designed to follow up SOTU.

Republicans' refusal to move IVF on a federal level just confirms the worst fears that swing voters who might even have the tiniest bit of sensitivity to this issue might harbor.
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« Reply #8 on: March 14, 2024, 10:09:42 AM »

Dems still shouldn't overreach here. The majority of Americans support access to abortion, but not unlimited and late term. Our position should be that abortion must be legal but rare.

You don’t think Dobbs has reset how people think about this issue? They may oppose late-term abortion if asked about it, but it’s not front of mind when abortion and IVF are both being banned and Dems just need to oppose that.

Republicans keep trying to redirect to “my opponent is an extremist who wants abortion on demand up until birth” and there’s no evidence it’s working.
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« Reply #9 on: March 14, 2024, 10:12:28 AM »

Dems still shouldn't overreach here. The majority of Americans support access to abortion, but not unlimited and late term. Our position should be that abortion must be legal but rare.

You don’t think Dobbs has reset how people think about this issue? They may oppose late-term abortion if asked about it, but it’s not front of mind when abortion and IVF are both being banned and Dems just need to oppose that.

Republicans keep trying to redirect to “my opponent is an extremist who wants abortion on demand up until birth” and there’s no evidence it’s working.

It certainly has. I just wouldn't overplay here as polls show a majority doesn't support unlimited abortion. GOPers will say what they want anyway. They also said Dems support defunding the police or want every person at the border in.
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« Reply #10 on: March 14, 2024, 10:13:36 AM »

Dems still shouldn't overreach here. The majority of Americans support access to abortion, but not unlimited and late term. Our position should be that abortion must be legal but rare.

You don’t think Dobbs has reset how people think about this issue? They may oppose late-term abortion if asked about it, but it’s not front of mind when abortion and IVF are both being banned and Dems just need to oppose that.

Republicans keep trying to redirect to “my opponent is an extremist who wants abortion on demand up until birth” and there’s no evidence it’s working.
It would help Harris if she was the nominee, but it does not help Biden at all.
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« Reply #11 on: March 14, 2024, 10:50:54 AM »

Dems still shouldn't overreach here. The majority of Americans support access to abortion, but not unlimited and late term. Our position should be that abortion must be legal but rare.

Nobody ever supported late term abortion. That was always Republican nonsense to smear the pro-choice movement and motivate the religious right.   
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« Reply #12 on: March 14, 2024, 10:55:59 AM »
« Edited: March 14, 2024, 10:59:45 AM by Benjamin Frank 2.0 »

Harris is not the candidate. It is Biden, who voters know has private pro-life views from his record as a Senator and his fear of even using the word abortion, while Trump is probably privately pro-choice.

How many women has bankrupt rapist traitor Trump paid to get an abortion?

This is such an interesting question.
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« Reply #13 on: March 14, 2024, 10:56:36 AM »

Dems still shouldn't overreach here. The majority of Americans support access to abortion, but not unlimited and late term. Our position should be that abortion must be legal but rare.

Nobody ever supported late term abortion. That was always Republican nonsense to smear the pro-choice movement and motivate the religious right.   

Yup, though we should be make sure that doesn't become the public perception like Dems supporting to defund the police.
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« Reply #14 on: March 14, 2024, 11:05:30 AM »

Harris is not the candidate. It is Biden, who voters know has private pro-life views from his record as a Senator and his fear of even using the word abortion, while Trump is probably privately pro-choice.

How many women has bankrupt rapist traitor Trump paid to get an abortion?

This is such an interesting question.

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« Reply #15 on: March 14, 2024, 11:08:04 AM »
« Edited: March 14, 2024, 12:02:14 PM by Benjamin Frank 2.0 »

Harris is not the candidate. It is Biden, who voters know has private pro-life views from his record as a Senator and his fear of even using the word abortion, while Trump is probably privately pro-choice.

How many women has bankrupt rapist traitor Trump paid to get an abortion?

This is such an interesting question.

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Trump dodges question over whether any past partners had abortions

Asked by Maureen Dowd whether he was ever involved with anyone who underwent procedure, Trump replies simply: ‘Such an interesting question’

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/apr/02/donald-trump-marueen-dowd-interview-abortion-past-partners

I wouldn't make posts like this if people like you didn't support bankrupt rapist traitor Trump.

Maybe I should have also pointed out that while bankrupt rapist traitor Trump for personal reasons likely is pro choice personally, that he also appointed three Supreme Court Justices who defacto lied to get on the court regarding their views on abortion and then proceeded to immediately overturn Roe V Wade, which as the Justices themselves all previously claimed was 'settled law.'
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« Reply #16 on: March 14, 2024, 11:48:00 AM »

Ideally, "abortion clinics" should not even exist.

Women should be able to get abortifacient medication dispensed at their local pharmacy with a prescription from their own OB-GYN, and should be able to get a surgical abortion at their nearby outpatient surgery center like any other minor outpatient procedure.
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« Reply #17 on: March 14, 2024, 12:37:10 PM »

Dems still shouldn't overreach here. The majority of Americans support access to abortion, but not unlimited and late term. Our position should be that abortion must be legal but rare.

I am so sick of the idea that late term abortions are women randomly deciding at 7 months they no longer wish to have a child and not the horrible tragic events they truly are. Make republicans defend forcing women to give birth to stillborns and putting the lives of women in danger.
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« Reply #18 on: March 14, 2024, 02:56:10 PM »

Dems still shouldn't overreach here. The majority of Americans support access to abortion, but not unlimited and late term. Our position should be that abortion must be legal but rare.

I am so sick of the idea that late term abortions are women randomly deciding at 7 months they no longer wish to have a child and not the horrible tragic events they truly are. Make republicans defend forcing women to give birth to stillborns and putting the lives of women in danger.
Cowering over late term abortions is the dumbest political miscalculation the Democrats could make. The only situations where people are getting late term abortions are the most sympathetic cases - that's where you should be forcing Republicans to play defense!
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« Reply #19 on: March 14, 2024, 03:03:10 PM »
« Edited: March 14, 2024, 03:12:56 PM by GP270watch »

 Democrats tried "safe, legal, and rare" as a policy and all the right did was go insane on the issue. Now they want women who were raped, victims of incest, mothers who might die, to all be forced to term. These no exceptions for abortion stances are incredibly radical and crazy but those words are almost never used to describe them.

 Access to abortion is women's healthcare, it's a competent and crucial part of women's healthcare. Maybe the Democrats huge mistake was instead of making it a women's issue and healthcare issue we tried to moralize too much to not rock the boat politically.
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« Reply #20 on: March 14, 2024, 03:11:08 PM »

Dems still shouldn't overreach here. The majority of Americans support access to abortion, but not unlimited and late term. Our position should be that abortion must be legal but rare.

Nobody ever supported late term abortion. That was always Republican nonsense to smear the pro-choice movement and motivate the religious right.   

Does anybody outside hardcore Republican partisans even believe so called late term abortions are even a Democratic policy or exist beyond medical emergencies? Republicans will say whatever nonsense they want, like "abortion after birth". Nobody who's stupid enough to believe this is going to vote for a Democrat anyway.
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