TikTok ban?

[Arizona Iced Tea]

https://twitter.com/NewsWire_US/status/1766189934853886078?t=t9TndXYVPE7LGMCk7QV...

https://twitter.com/Forbes/status/1766111649402929317?t=09IxJlX9jfatWFCywfYGHg&a...

[Penn_Quaker_Girl]

No, please. 

[OSR stands with Israel]

That CCP propaganda tool should be banned .

[lfromnj]

Spotify next as well please.

[Tekken_Guy]

TikTok isn’t getting banned. No way Dems will allow it.

[DrScholl]

If there is anything that would lose the election for Biden it is this. 18-24 year olds would not vote for him if he signs this and may turnout to vote third party. Plus there are people who make their living off Tik Tok so you'd essentially be taking away income from people.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

I am only for this because it helps me financially. Otherwise, I don't use Tiktok so I don't really care.

[Tekken_Guy]

If there is anything that would lose the election for Biden it is this. 18-24 year olds would not vote for him if he signs this and may turnout to vote third party. Plus there are people who make their living off Tik Tok so you'd essentially be taking away income from people.

Aren’t those the same votes he lost from Palestine?

[DrScholl]

If there is anything that would lose the election for Biden it is this. 18-24 year olds would not vote for him if he signs this and may turnout to vote third party. Plus there are people who make their living off Tik Tok so you'd essentially be taking away income from people.

Aren’t those the same votes he lost from Palestine?

It could be a much broader group. Plenty of younger Tik Tok users could be persuaded to support Biden based on women's rights, LGBTQ rights, etc. But banning Tik Tok would put those people off. Young people don't like having their voice taken away.

[Tekken_Guy]

If there is anything that would lose the election for Biden it is this. 18-24 year olds would not vote for him if he signs this and may turnout to vote third party. Plus there are people who make their living off Tik Tok so you'd essentially be taking away income from people.

Aren’t those the same votes he lost from Palestine?

It could be a much broader group. Plenty of younger Tik Tok users could be persuaded to support Biden based on women's rights, LGBTQ rights, etc. But banning Tik Tok would put those people off. Young people don't like having their voice taken away.

What if Bytedance divests from TikTok?

[Utah Neolib]

If there is anything that would lose the election for Biden it is this. 18-24 year olds would not vote for him if he signs this and may turnout to vote third party. Plus there are people who make their living off Tik Tok so you'd essentially be taking away income from people.

Aren’t those the same votes he lost from Palestine?

It could be a much broader group. Plenty of younger Tik Tok users could be persuaded to support Biden based on women's rights, LGBTQ rights, etc. But banning Tik Tok would put those people off. Young people don't like having their voice taken away.

It’s mostly mindless forgettable content. Plus it’d probably just be sold to a different company where someone can know that an event did occur in Tianamen Square.

[Illiniwek]

If there is anything that would lose the election for Biden it is this. 18-24 year olds would not vote for him if he signs this and may turnout to vote third party. Plus there are people who make their living off Tik Tok so you'd essentially be taking away income from people.

I'm afraid this is true. It would be a catastrophe for Biden's support among that demographic.

[emailking]

Note, if it passes it's only banned if they do not sell it off within 6 months.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Biden should do this AFTER the election.

[Tekken_Guy]

If there is anything that would lose the election for Biden it is this. 18-24 year olds would not vote for him if he signs this and may turnout to vote third party. Plus there are people who make their living off Tik Tok so you'd essentially be taking away income from people.

I'm afraid this is true. It would be a catastrophe for Biden's support among that demographic.

I don’t think it’ll matter until TikTok is actually no longer accessible in the U.S..

[President Johnson]

That CCP propaganda tool should be banned .

Agreed.

EU please follow then.

[Santander]

My entire life outside getting Atlas likes revolves around getting TikTok views and likes.

[DrScholl]

If there is anything that would lose the election for Biden it is this. 18-24 year olds would not vote for him if he signs this and may turnout to vote third party. Plus there are people who make their living off Tik Tok so you'd essentially be taking away income from people.

Aren’t those the same votes he lost from Palestine?

It could be a much broader group. Plenty of younger Tik Tok users could be persuaded to support Biden based on women's rights, LGBTQ rights, etc. But banning Tik Tok would put those people off. Young people don't like having their voice taken away.

What if Bytedance divests from TikTok?

That's what the proposed ban is trying to trigger so it wouldn't be banned if that happened.

[Tekken_Guy]

If there is anything that would lose the election for Biden it is this. 18-24 year olds would not vote for him if he signs this and may turnout to vote third party. Plus there are people who make their living off Tik Tok so you'd essentially be taking away income from people.

Aren’t those the same votes he lost from Palestine?

It could be a much broader group. Plenty of younger Tik Tok users could be persuaded to support Biden based on women's rights, LGBTQ rights, etc. But banning Tik Tok would put those people off. Young people don't like having their voice taken away.

What if Bytedance divests from TikTok?

That's what the proposed ban is trying to trigger so it wouldn't be banned if that happened.

Will signing the bill hurt Biden with the youth, or will it only hurt if the app is actually banned by ED.

[DrScholl]

If there is anything that would lose the election for Biden it is this. 18-24 year olds would not vote for him if he signs this and may turnout to vote third party. Plus there are people who make their living off Tik Tok so you'd essentially be taking away income from people.

Aren’t those the same votes he lost from Palestine?

It could be a much broader group. Plenty of younger Tik Tok users could be persuaded to support Biden based on women's rights, LGBTQ rights, etc. But banning Tik Tok would put those people off. Young people don't like having their voice taken away.

What if Bytedance divests from TikTok?

That's what the proposed ban is trying to trigger so it wouldn't be banned if that happened.

Will signing the bill hurt Biden with the youth, or will it only hurt if the app is actually banned by ED.

Obviously it hurts if the app is actually banned and no one in the US can access it.

[compucomp]

It's amazing that a forum that skews towards young people is so supportive of a TikTok ban. Just remember, that by supporting the TikTok ban you

1. Don't believe in the First Amendment and freedom of speech. "The CCP" you like to demonize is responsible for exactly none of the viral content on TikTok, your fellow citizens are
2. Are carrying water for Mark Zuckerberg, who is one of the hidden hands behind this legislation as the main beneficiary.
3. Are carrying water for the FBI and NSA to gain additional surveillance capabilities and authority. I've never heard of anyone going to jail over VPN use in China and Mark Warner wants to hand out 20 year prison sentences for that.

Looks like blind anti-China hate and jingoism has corrupted your minds. Maybe one day you'll wake up and realize that and regret that you supported policies that are in total opposition to your ideals.

Edit: No, Bytedance will not divest from TikTok. We won't let it happen. You won't pry TikTok out of our cold dead hands, you'll have to ban it and suffer the consequences.

[Beet]

If there is anything that would lose the election for Biden it is this. 18-24 year olds would not vote for him if he signs this and may turnout to vote third party. Plus there are people who make their living off Tik Tok so you'd essentially be taking away income from people.

Aren’t those the same votes he lost from Palestine?

It could be a much broader group. Plenty of younger Tik Tok users could be persuaded to support Biden based on women's rights, LGBTQ rights, etc. But banning Tik Tok would put those people off. Young people don't like having their voice taken away.

What if Bytedance divests from TikTok?

That's what the proposed ban is trying to trigger so it wouldn't be banned if that happened.

The Chinese government last year pretty much said they wouldn't allow a forced sale, so a divestiture looks highly unlikely. If this goes through its likely a ban.

There are serious security concerns but frankly none that couldn't be solved by measures short of an outright ban, such as giving the US oversight of the data and algorithims, so this would set a very bad precedent vis-a-via freedom of speech concerns.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

There's literally only one TikTok account I like which I view occasionally (on desktop because I'm not putting that crap on my phone) because she's really vocal about being progressive and loving Jesus Christ: https://www.tiktok.com/@cheekymisfitt

And even she has some cringe Gen Z moments at times.

[Benjamin Frank 2.0]

It's amazing that a forum that skews towards young people is so supportive of a TikTok ban. Just remember, that by supporting the TikTok ban you

1. Don't believe in the First Amendment and freedom of speech. "The CCP" you like to demonize is responsible for exactly none of the viral content on TikTok, your fellow citizens are
2. Are carrying water for Mark Zuckerberg, who is one of the hidden hands behind this legislation as the main beneficiary.
3. Are carrying water for the FBI and NSA to gain additional surveillance capabilities and authority. I've never heard of anyone going to jail over VPN use in China and Mark Warner wants to hand out 20 year prison sentences for that.

Looks like blind anti-China hate and jingoism has corrupted your minds. Maybe one day you'll wake up and realize that and regret that you supported policies that are in total opposition to your ideals.

Edit: No, Bytedance will not divest from TikTok. We won't let it happen. You won't pry TikTok out of our cold dead hands, you'll have to ban it and suffer the consequences.

If Tik Tok can be banned, then Faux News owned by Australian Rupert Murdereroch can be banned as well.

[lfromnj]

I do agree with speech concerns but at the same time China not only does this with social media but video game companies as well. Its both for censorship but also for protectionism. We should really be focusing on the latter part.