LA Times poll: Thompson gaining ground, Clinton doing badly in GE

[Tender Branson]

GOP Primary:

Giuliani: 27%
Thompson: 21%
McCain: 12%
Romney: 10%
Gingrich: 9%
Huckabee: 3%

Sub-sample of the Religious Right:

Thompson: 32%
Giuliani: 12%
McCain: 11%
Romney: 10%
Gingrich: 8%
Huckabee: 7%

Democratic Primary:

Clinton: 33%
Obama: 22%
Gore: 15%
Edwards: 8%

General Election:

Clinton vs. Giuliani: 39-49
Clinton vs. McCain: 41-45
Clinton vs. Romney: 41-43

Obama vs. Giuliani: 46-41
Obama vs. McCain: 47-35
Obama vs. Romney: 50-34

Edwards vs. Giuliani: 46-43
Edwards vs. McCain: 40-45
Edwards vs. Romney: 46-32

http://www.latimes.com/media/acrobat/2007-06/30445335.pdf

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

Clinton beaten by Romney - forgive me but - bulls**t.

[agcatter]

I have to agree with that.  This poll is very fishy.

[MODU]

Clinton beaten by Romney - forgive me but - bulls**t.

If I'm reading his poll correctly, it is showing Clinton losing to Romney, 41 - 43.

[Tender Branson]

Clinton beaten by Romney - forgive me but - bulls**t.

If I'm reading his poll correctly, it is showing Clinton losing to Romney, 41 - 43.

Yeah, thats what the poll says and PolNut thinks this can´t be true.

[MODU]

Clinton beaten by Romney - forgive me but - bulls**t.

If I'm reading his poll correctly, it is showing Clinton losing to Romney, 41 - 43.

Yeah, thats what the poll says and PolNut thinks this can´t be true.

Ahh, I actually misread his statement.  My bad.

[AndrewTX]

Clinton beaten by Romney - forgive me but - bulls**t.

Yeah, something aint right there.

[Likely Voter]

Clinton does have a slightly net negative approval rating....and she is quite polarizing. She would unite the right and could help GOP turnout....some who might have just stayed home for an Obama v Guiliani election might go to just vote against her.

but I do agree should would beat Romney....i cannot see Ohio going for Mitt over Hill

[Alcon]

Wow.  A Los Angeles Times poll that sucks, but not completely in the Democrats' favor.

[Gabu]

Thompson could very well be the first guy to sweep his party's primaries without even running.

[angus]

GOP Primary:

Giuliani: 27%
Thompson: 21%
McCain: 12%
Romney: 10%
Gingrich: 9%
Huckabee: 3%

Thompson?!  The guy doesn't even have the decency to debate the others and he's at 21%.  And all we know about him is that he's an actor and a Republican.  Guess that's good enough for some folks.  That's just sad, man.  Embarassing, even.  And it says something about the state of our educational system too.  It's like Jesus.  We're supposed to be such a religious country, but no one knows anything about the man everyone says they all love.  Jesus?  Oh, yeah, Jesus rocks.  He's my savior.  I know all about Jesus.  Yet, there's a poll that shows that something like only 32% of evangelical protestants could even name the person who delivered the sermon on the mount.  And even fewer could tell what the sermon said.  In that same poll about 47% picked Billy Graham as the one who delivered the sermon on the mount.  Could it be that these are the same well-informed voters who are flocking to get behind the former Tennessee Senator that they don't know anything about?

[MODU]

Thompson could very well be the first guy to sweep his party's primaries without even running.

That would make for an interesting case study. 

[DownWithTheLeft]

Thompson could very well be the first guy to sweep his party's primaries without even running.

I think it would be funny if he won the nomination and then declined it

[Likely Voter]

Gore isnt doing bad for a nonrunner...I have seen him up to 20%. I kind of feel sad for the Huckabees and Richardsons of this world. These are accomplished politicians out there breaking their rump every day and these guys sit on their ass and get double, quadruple, etc the numbers.

[Eraserhead]

Obama beats McCain by 12 points (and Giuliani by 5)! Yeah maybe the poll is off but it sure is pretty looking.

[Tender Branson]

Obama beats McCain by 12 points (and Giuliani by 5)! Yeah maybe the poll is off but it sure is pretty looking.

I think the best way now to compare the Democratic candidate with the GOP candidate is to look at the Real Clear Politics General Election Average, because the latest Rasmussen sample seems to be flawed in Giuliani/McCains favor and this LA Times sample seems to be flawed in Obamas favor. Both are about running even now I think.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

Basically what this poll seems to be saying is that are a fair number of people who think that this is way too early for a Presidential campaign, so I'd rather vote for someone sensible who thinks the same.  I'd have to agree. All other factors being equal I'd certainly vote for the guy who hasn't been running forever and has done something recently besides being a full-time politician.

[angus]

Basically what this poll seems to be saying is that are a fair number of people who think that this is way too early for a Presidential campaign, so I'd rather vote for someone sensible who thinks the same. 

I suppose that's the more optimistic interpretation, but I'm not buying it.

What it says is that fame trumps preparation and credentials.  This interpretation is supported by the fact that when someone like Brad Pitt talks about war or famine or climate change people listen, but when a general talks about war, or a nobel laureate talks about famine, or when someone with a PhD in meteorology talks about climate change, no one hears.  Nothing wrong with a little healthy skepticism, Ernest, so long as you don't become cynical.  We're a people in love with fame, and those who achieve it.  We love Jesus but can't tell you anything about the man other than the mythological stories that have arisen since his death.  We buy all sorts of body-shaping products from infomercials just because Suzanne Sommers said it'll give us rock-hard abs.  And we decide that Fred Thompson, who is apparently above debating the other candidates, must be the best candidate simply because we have seen him on TV.  And if you follow there may be a tomorrow.

But if the offer is shun you might as well be walking on the sun.