Would you be surprised if Nathan Hochman doesn’t win in November?
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« on: March 06, 2024, 10:19:38 AM »

Would you be surprised if the de facto GOP nominee doesn’t defeat George Gascon?
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« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2024, 12:00:23 AM »

Gascon is really bad, but then again this is LA county. In Loudon county the boring Bob Anderson only beat Buta Biberaj by 300 votes in a much redder county than LA with off-year turnout. I hope Hochman wins, but I am not expecting him to win at all, and would be surprised if he somehow won.
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« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2024, 12:02:27 AM »

Gascon is really bad, but then again this is LA county. In Loudon county the boring Bob Anderson only beat Buta Biberaj by 300 votes in a much redder county than LA with off-year turnout. I hope Hochman wins, but I am not expecting him to win at all, and would be surprised if he somehow won.

Yes, but LA races are nonpartisan.
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« Reply #3 on: March 08, 2024, 12:11:01 PM »

Who’s favored to win?
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« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2024, 03:09:59 AM »

Gascon is really bad, but then again this is LA county. In Loudon county the boring Bob Anderson only beat Buta Biberaj by 300 votes in a much redder county than LA with off-year turnout. I hope Hochman wins, but I am not expecting him to win at all, and would be surprised if he somehow won.

Yes, but LA races are nonpartisan.
No election with a decent sized electorate in America is truly nonpartisan
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« Reply #5 on: March 13, 2024, 12:03:36 PM »

Hochman is almost DOA.

Gascon will have the establishment backing, progressive backing, and the benefit of something as simple as having a Spanish last name.

Unless the establishment Democrats starts supporting Hochman (which seems just very unlikely due to partisanship) I don't see Gascon losing at this point. In California to win as a moderate you need to be a Democrat. (see LA mayoral election).
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« Reply #6 on: March 13, 2024, 07:46:37 PM »

Yes, to be honest. 23% as an incumbent is almost unheard of, I don’t care how many challengers he had. He’s a decided underdog in a non-partisan race. LA County is much less blue than Seattle was, and Seattle elected a Republican City Attorney in a similarly non-partisan race.
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« Reply #7 on: March 14, 2024, 01:33:21 PM »

Yes, to be honest. 23% as an incumbent is almost unheard of, I don’t care how many challengers he had. He’s a decided underdog in a non-partisan race. LA County is much less blue than Seattle was, and Seattle elected a Republican City Attorney in a similarly non-partisan race.
Seattle isn’t 10 million people
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« Reply #8 on: March 14, 2024, 05:08:39 PM »

Yes, to be honest. 23% as an incumbent is almost unheard of, I don’t care how many challengers he had. He’s a decided underdog in a non-partisan race. LA County is much less blue than Seattle was, and Seattle elected a Republican City Attorney in a similarly non-partisan race.
Seattle isn’t 10 million people

That and Davison had many democrats backing her, including the two previous governors
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« Reply #9 on: March 15, 2024, 07:42:25 AM »

In California to win as a moderate you need to be a Democrat. (see LA mayoral election).
Karen Bass was the progressive candidate.
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« Reply #10 on: March 15, 2024, 10:04:51 AM »

Gascon has plenty of issues, but his strategy will almost certainly be to frame his opponent as an extreme conservative who wants to bring extremism to the DA's office. In a presidential year that almost certainly will work.
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« Reply #11 on: March 15, 2024, 10:06:15 AM »

Yes, to be honest. 23% as an incumbent is almost unheard of, I don’t care how many challengers he had. He’s a decided underdog in a non-partisan race. LA County is much less blue than Seattle was, and Seattle elected a Republican City Attorney in a similarly non-partisan race.
Seattle isn’t 10 million people

That and Davison had many democrats backing her, including the two previous governors

You don’t think many high profile Democrats will be trying to get rid of Gascon? The Democrat sheriff already is.
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« Reply #12 on: March 15, 2024, 11:02:55 AM »

In California to win as a moderate you need to be a Democrat. (see LA mayoral election).
Karen Bass was the progressive candidate.

What I was referring to (rather unclearly) was how Caruso made the mayoral race close by becoming a Democrat and gathering support from the party.
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« Reply #13 on: March 15, 2024, 01:31:01 PM »

Yes, to be honest. 23% as an incumbent is almost unheard of, I don’t care how many challengers he had. He’s a decided underdog in a non-partisan race. LA County is much less blue than Seattle was, and Seattle elected a Republican City Attorney in a similarly non-partisan race.
Seattle isn’t 10 million people

That and Davison had many democrats backing her, including the two previous governors

You don’t think many high profile Democrats will be trying to get rid of Gascon? The Democrat sheriff already is.

Thomas-Kennedy is significantly more left than Gascón. Kennedy-Thomas had endorsements from DSA and Indivisible, Gascón has the endorsement of the LA Democratic Party   
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« Reply #14 on: March 15, 2024, 02:04:05 PM »

Yes, to be honest. 23% as an incumbent is almost unheard of, I don’t care how many challengers he had. He’s a decided underdog in a non-partisan race. LA County is much less blue than Seattle was, and Seattle elected a Republican City Attorney in a similarly non-partisan race.
Seattle isn’t 10 million people

That and Davison had many democrats backing her, including the two previous governors

You don’t think many high profile Democrats will be trying to get rid of Gascon? The Democrat sheriff already is.

Thomas-Kennedy is significantly more left than Gascón. Kennedy-Thomas had endorsements from DSA and Indivisible, Gascón has the endorsement of the LA Democratic Party   
Exactly Thomas-Kennedy was a abolitionist, Gascon is a former cop and police chief and has actually received scrutiny from the left for prosecuting some juveniles as adults in especially heinous cases. Gascon is a reformer, and he prosecuted corrupt cops hes probably the most left wing DA in LA county's history but thats because we have a history of very right wing DA's like Steve Cooley. I expect Gascon to win but it'll probably be closer than his first election. He's been smeared relentlessly since he took office as being responsible for every crime in Los Angeles by the police union, and that has done quite a bit of damage to his image but I think hell be able to pull through based off partisanship, and when you take a real look at his record hes done a good job as DA. Violent Crime is down across the board, certain types of property crime has gone up but theres no definitive link with that and Gascon's performance as DA, its more than likely linked to the increase in poverty and the cost of living.
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« Reply #15 on: March 15, 2024, 03:04:13 PM »

Was Steve Cooley just very conservative? Or was he downright racist like Orange County's Todd Spitzer?
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