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Question: Who had a worse night in Michigan?
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Haley
 
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« on: February 28, 2024, 03:03:14 AM »

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« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2024, 03:04:54 AM »

Uncommitted since Trump underperformed polls. It was bad for Haley as well though.
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« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2024, 03:06:30 AM »

In terms of bad nights:

Dean Phillips >>>>>Uncommitted>Haley>Trump>Biden>Williamson.
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« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2024, 06:18:40 AM »
« Edited: February 28, 2024, 06:29:53 AM by PHARAOH BAKARI SELLERS »

Trump, blks turned out for Biden, Trump isn't getting 26% blk, that's why the polls ever since primary started Primary and GE have been Trump bias

10/13 percent blk like he gotten last time
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« Reply #4 on: February 28, 2024, 06:41:18 AM »

Haley. I expected Biden to get 86% of the vote.
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« Reply #5 on: February 28, 2024, 06:42:00 AM »

Easily uncommitted.  A 13 percent showing is not really impressive when the uncommitted vote was nearly 11 percent in the 2012 Democratic primary.

Haley pulled almost 30 percent of the vote in a primary where it was predestined that Trump was going to win--and there was no incentive for these voters other than to register a protest.
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« Reply #6 on: February 28, 2024, 06:46:50 AM »

That 13 percent is what Trump is gonna wind up with in the blk vote not 25 percent like he got last time
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« Reply #7 on: February 28, 2024, 06:48:45 AM »

Easily uncommitted.  A 13 percent showing is not really impressive when the uncommitted vote was nearly 11 percent in the 2012 Democratic primary.

Haley pulled almost 30 percent of the vote in a primary where it was predestined that Trump was going to win--and there was no incentive for these voters other than to register a protest.
In 2012 there were way more DINOs. Ie Obama-Trump voters are no longer voting in the Democratic Primary now.
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« Reply #8 on: February 28, 2024, 06:49:29 AM »

At this point, voting for Haley pretty much is the uncommitted option for Republicans.
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« Reply #9 on: February 28, 2024, 06:53:18 AM »

Easily uncommitted.  A 13 percent showing is not really impressive when the uncommitted vote was nearly 11 percent in the 2012 Democratic primary.

Haley pulled almost 30 percent of the vote in a primary where it was predestined that Trump was going to win--and there was no incentive for these voters other than to register a protest.
In 2012 there were way more DINOs. Ie Obama-Trump voters are no longer voting in the Democratic Primary now.

Likewise, it wasn't RINOs in the Republican primary yesterday.
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« Reply #10 on: February 28, 2024, 06:54:42 AM »

Easily uncommitted.  A 13 percent showing is not really impressive when the uncommitted vote was nearly 11 percent in the 2012 Democratic primary.

Haley pulled almost 30 percent of the vote in a primary where it was predestined that Trump was going to win--and there was no incentive for these voters other than to register a protest.
In 2012 there were way more DINOs. Ie Obama-Trump voters are no longer voting in the Democratic Primary now.

Likewise, it wasn't RINOs in the Republican primary yesterday.
RINOs vote at higher rates in primaries/specials overall. Also, the Democratic Party was much larger than the Republican Party in 2012, meaning a lot more DINOs. Today, the Republican Party is probably equal or larger in registration.
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« Reply #11 on: February 28, 2024, 11:19:09 PM »

Perfectly balanced as all things must be.
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« Reply #12 on: February 29, 2024, 12:45:40 AM »

Haley had the worst night because she lost by 42 points.  Trump didn't underperform the polls.  When you look deeper into the polls, Trump was only up by those margins big margins due to undecided voters.  For example, Emerson indicated that Trump would win the Primary by 69-20% with people that planned to vote, and that lead grew to 76-24% with undecideds.   Also, Haley's a tough opponent with Super Pacs pouring money to drive anti-Trump D and I voters.  Trump didn't spend a dime in Michigan, and lost some votes to Vivek and DeSantis, but Trump won the most people any Republican candidate has gotten in a primary (760,000).

The "Uncommited" votes in the D Primary had a good night because they successfully brought attention to Biden's Israel-Gaza position, and they forced Democrats to vote in their own primary instead of the Republican one. 
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« Reply #13 on: February 29, 2024, 11:38:07 AM »

Haley. Biden's share of the vote was almost 10% lower than Obama despite all the ancestral Dinos in rural areas swapping to Republican in the 12 years since then. Haley's performance wasn't particularly strong and she'll tank on Super Tuesday.
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