Motion to Expel Senator DownWithDaLeft

[Ebowed]

Noting the Supreme Court ruling and their claim that DownWithDaLeft undeniably and by his own admission violated the Constitution in a severe manner, but also noting their claim that it is the Senate's responsibility to take appropriate actions for removal, I hereby bring forth a petition to expel Sen. DownWithDaLeft.

x Ebowed

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

x BRTD

[DownWithTheLeft]

Although I cannot find it anywhere, I would assume it is a 2/3 majority to expel me, which would be 6 or 7 votes.  I hope at least 2 to 3 other senators have the sense to realize this was not an infraction that at all affected anyone and to let me continue and for the witchhunt to end

[The Man From G.O.P.]

I will deliver a vote on this matter either tommorrow or the next day, I hope the appropriate words are said before my decision is reached.

[Speed of Sound]

I hope at least 2 to 3 other senators have the sense to realize this was not an infraction that at all affected anyone and to let me continue and for the witchhunt to end

Senator DWTL, you are completely right. C'mon now, guys. You cant be seriously considering doing this. This person was rightfully elected as the representor of the Northeast, and youre going to remove him for an infraction like this? The day he is removed for this is the day that a region has been deprived of its voice by the senate for no reason other than political power plays. I am here to support Senator DownWithTheLeft, as he has done his job, and is very active. He's just the kind of the guy (activity wise) that the senate needs, and he's the one you guys are shooting for? I really have to wonder the true motives of every senator signing this. Please members of the senate, keep this chamber one of integrity and honor, not of sly moves and self-motives.

[SPC]

I hope at least 2 to 3 other senators have the sense to realize this was not an infraction that at all affected anyone and to let me continue and for the witchhunt to end

Senator DWTL, you are completely right. C'mon now, guys. You cant be seriously considering doing this. This person was rightfully elected as the representor of the Northeast, and youre going to remove him for an infraction like this? The day he is removed for this is the day that a region has been deprived of its voice by the senate for no reason other than political power plays. I am here to support Senator DownWithTheLeft, as he has done his job, and is very active. He's just the kind of the guy (activity wise) that the senate needs, and he's the one you guys are shooting for? I really have to wonder the true motives of every senator signing this. Please members of the senate, keep this chamber one of integrity and honor, not of sly moves and self-motives.

Good to see that you are putting your political differences aside to do what is right.

[Rob]

x Rob

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

If his constituents still want him, after being expelled DWTL can just run in the special election to replace himself, and they can re-elect him.

[The Man From G.O.P.]

I hope at least 2 to 3 other senators have the sense to realize this was not an infraction that at all affected anyone and to let me continue and for the witchhunt to end

Senator DWTL, you are completely right. C'mon now, guys. You cant be seriously considering doing this. This person was rightfully elected as the representor of the Northeast, and youre going to remove him for an infraction like this? The day he is removed for this is the day that a region has been deprived of its voice by the senate for no reason other than political power plays. I am here to support Senator DownWithTheLeft, as he has done his job, and is very active. He's just the kind of the guy (activity wise) that the senate needs, and he's the one you guys are shooting for? I really have to wonder the true motives of every senator signing this. Please members of the senate, keep this chamber one of integrity and honor, not of sly moves and self-motives.

One would argue that while he is very active, it is his proposals, and reaction to the rejection of his frequent proposals, that is indeed a turn OFF to potential Atlasians.

Nevertheless, I will admit that I have made consideration of my vote not on Constitutional violations, not on what's best for Atlasia, but on what I feel is unnacceptable actions by the Senator, and I can understand if some deem the arguments between us as personal.


I call for DWTL to address his behavior, if he can admit he has been far too abrasive, and that his legislation proposals have not been for the betterment of Atlasia, then my vote to expel will be no, and all this will be in the past.


I'd like this to be over, as much as the Senator and those who have stayed silent would.

[Speed of Sound]

I hope at least 2 to 3 other senators have the sense to realize this was not an infraction that at all affected anyone and to let me continue and for the witchhunt to end

Senator DWTL, you are completely right. C'mon now, guys. You cant be seriously considering doing this. This person was rightfully elected as the representor of the Northeast, and youre going to remove him for an infraction like this? The day he is removed for this is the day that a region has been deprived of its voice by the senate for no reason other than political power plays. I am here to support Senator DownWithTheLeft, as he has done his job, and is very active. He's just the kind of the guy (activity wise) that the senate needs, and he's the one you guys are shooting for? I really have to wonder the true motives of every senator signing this. Please members of the senate, keep this chamber one of integrity and honor, not of sly moves and self-motives.

One would argue that while he is very active, it is his proposals, and reaction to the rejection of his frequent proposals, that is indeed a turn OFF to potential Atlasians.

Nevertheless, I will admit that I have made consideration of my vote not on Constitutional violations, not on what's best for Atlasia, but on what I feel is unnacceptable actions by the Senator, and I can understand if some deem the arguments between us as personal.


I call for DWTL to address his behavior, if he can admit he has been far too abrasive, and that his legislation proposals have not been for the betterment of Atlasia, then my vote to expel will be no, and all this will be in the past.


I'd like this to be over, as much as the Senator and those who have stayed silent would.

With all due respect, sir, your vote should not be on the views of the senator, and if youre willing to remove senators on the completely legal acts they make in the senate, then you need to really re-think what youre doing. As senator, you are to represent your region, not stop the representation of others.

If his constituents still want him, after being expelled DWTL can just run in the special election to replace himself, and they can re-elect him.

That isnt the point. That shouldnt even be necessary. the point is the senate stand up and say "the man is doing his job, and we are going to let him continue to do so, no matter our disagreement on views", not "Because we dont like him and have an excuse now, we are going to remove him from office. Forget the people!" This is a matter of priniciple, Mr. BRTD, and I really hope you consider removing your signature from this motion.

[The Man From G.O.P.]

I hope at least 2 to 3 other senators have the sense to realize this was not an infraction that at all affected anyone and to let me continue and for the witchhunt to end

Senator DWTL, you are completely right. C'mon now, guys. You cant be seriously considering doing this. This person was rightfully elected as the representor of the Northeast, and youre going to remove him for an infraction like this? The day he is removed for this is the day that a region has been deprived of its voice by the senate for no reason other than political power plays. I am here to support Senator DownWithTheLeft, as he has done his job, and is very active. He's just the kind of the guy (activity wise) that the senate needs, and he's the one you guys are shooting for? I really have to wonder the true motives of every senator signing this. Please members of the senate, keep this chamber one of integrity and honor, not of sly moves and self-motives.

One would argue that while he is very active, it is his proposals, and reaction to the rejection of his frequent proposals, that is indeed a turn OFF to potential Atlasians.

Nevertheless, I will admit that I have made consideration of my vote not on Constitutional violations, not on what's best for Atlasia, but on what I feel is unnacceptable actions by the Senator, and I can understand if some deem the arguments between us as personal.


I call for DWTL to address his behavior, if he can admit he has been far too abrasive, and that his legislation proposals have not been for the betterment of Atlasia, then my vote to expel will be no, and all this will be in the past.


I'd like this to be over, as much as the Senator and those who have stayed silent would.

With all due respect, sir, your vote should not be on the views of the senator, and if youre willing to remove senators on the completely legal acts they make in the senate, then you need to really re-think what youre doing. As senator, you are to represent your region, not stop the representation of others.

I would ask that you read my statement more carefully... I indeed admit that my reasons would easily be considered personal, and rather obviously infer that I would be quite outside the bounds of my duty if I were to vote to expel him.

I have stated what I want to hear from the Senator, and I know the whole rest of the Senate would like to hear the same thing as well.


So as no one is confused about where I stand on the issue of personal vendetta and my vote, I hearby vote

Nay

on the issue of expelling the Senator from Tenn... err.... New Jersey from the Senate, I hope my statement does not make the Senator feel he can escape answering for his behavior, failure to do so will, in my opinion, severely hamper his chances of re-election.

[Robespierre's Jaw]

If by chance if he is removed, there will be an election to replace him right?

[Ebowed]

If by chance if he is removed, there will be an election to replace him right?

Yes.

[Speed of Sound]

I hope at least 2 to 3 other senators have the sense to realize this was not an infraction that at all affected anyone and to let me continue and for the witchhunt to end

Senator DWTL, you are completely right. C'mon now, guys. You cant be seriously considering doing this. This person was rightfully elected as the representor of the Northeast, and youre going to remove him for an infraction like this? The day he is removed for this is the day that a region has been deprived of its voice by the senate for no reason other than political power plays. I am here to support Senator DownWithTheLeft, as he has done his job, and is very active. He's just the kind of the guy (activity wise) that the senate needs, and he's the one you guys are shooting for? I really have to wonder the true motives of every senator signing this. Please members of the senate, keep this chamber one of integrity and honor, not of sly moves and self-motives.

One would argue that while he is very active, it is his proposals, and reaction to the rejection of his frequent proposals, that is indeed a turn OFF to potential Atlasians.

Nevertheless, I will admit that I have made consideration of my vote not on Constitutional violations, not on what's best for Atlasia, but on what I feel is unnacceptable actions by the Senator, and I can understand if some deem the arguments between us as personal.


I call for DWTL to address his behavior, if he can admit he has been far too abrasive, and that his legislation proposals have not been for the betterment of Atlasia, then my vote to expel will be no, and all this will be in the past.


I'd like this to be over, as much as the Senator and those who have stayed silent would.

With all due respect, sir, your vote should not be on the views of the senator, and if youre willing to remove senators on the completely legal acts they make in the senate, then you need to really re-think what youre doing. As senator, you are to represent your region, not stop the representation of others.

I would ask that you read my statement more carefully... I indeed admit that my reasons would easily be considered personal, and rather obviously infer that I would be quite outside the bounds of my duty if I were to vote to expel him.

I have stated what I want to hear from the Senator, and I know the whole rest of the Senate would like to hear the same thing as well.


So as no one is confused about where I stand on the issue of personal vendetta and my vote, I hearby vote

Nay

on the issue of expelling the Senator from Tenn... err.... New Jersey from the Senate, I hope my statement does not make the Senator feel he can escape answering for his behavior, failure to do so will, in my opinion, severely hamper his chances of re-election.

My apologies. I wasnt sure where you were going with the last post. I agree that it would be nice to see where some of this stuff is coming from.......but it isnt worth expulsion.

[SPC]

If by chance if he is removed, there will be an election to replace him right?

I hope you're not supporting his expulsion purely for the oppotunity for political advancement.

[DownWithTheLeft]

I would like to offer a few words even though it appears my future in the senate is not in jeopardy as of this moment:

I would first like to apoligize for any behavior deemed as abrasive on my part, however, I will not apoligize for trying to remove Porce as PPT as he did violate the rules to try to advance his own causes.  I will be removing legislaiton that is frivulous and will think my bills through more carefully.  However, I will not stop contributing to Atlasia by introducing bills.

Thank you,
Sen. DWTL

[Colin]

To Senator DWDL,

First of all I would suggest that you gain some decorum in the Senate's proceedings befitting a person who has been given the honour to serve as a representative of the Atlasian people. I accept your apology for your abrasive behavior in the past and I truely hope that it does not continue. Secondly I would suggest that you spend less time trying to put forward some personal vendetta against the President Pro Tempore and learn the "ropes" of the Senate. How to create a bill that would be acceptable to the other Senators, how to create a bill that is more focused and has less vaguery within it, and bills that follow the constitution and the prior statues in a way that would follow according to Atlasian law.

I have nothing wrong with you contributing by introducing bills, I have a problem with you wasting the Senate's time by introducing bills that are so ridiculous that you will either withdraw them for lack of support or they will be voted down by vast margins. The few bills of yours that I believe have passed have been heavily amended and changed from both their original wording and their original intent.

So please I would like to ask you to quit wasting the Senate's and the people's time with, I'm sorry to sound rude, idiotic and horrendous legislation and I would also like to ask you to devout more time to debate and to the creation of better legislation than to the continuation of this fued between yourself and Porce. Respect is always earned and can never be demanded. You must earn respect from the other members of his chamber or you will find yourself increasingly isolated from normal, constructive debate and Senate proceedings as a whole.

Sincerely,
Senator Colin Wixted

[DownWithTheLeft]

Again, while some of my rhetoric was unaccpetable, the idea that Porce should have to follow the rules of the senate is something I will not back down from.  He accused me of wanting to advertise pornography on our nation's coins.  Obviously you are confusing the rude and abrasive one.

[The Man From G.O.P.]

Again, while some of my rhetoric was unaccpetable, the idea that Porce should have to follow the rules of the senate is something I will not back down from.  He accused me of wanting to advertise pornography on our nation's coins.  Obviously you are confusing the rude and abrasive one.

It is this sort of statement that will have my vote change, you have no idea how close then Senate is to removing you.

[Colin]

Again, while some of my rhetoric was unaccpetable, the idea that Porce should have to follow the rules of the senate is something I will not back down from.  He accused me of wanting to advertise pornography on our nation's coins.  Obviously you are confusing the rude and abrasive one.

My thought is that its in the past now. Mike Naso was voted down by the Senate as a whole and another VP was nominated and confirmed within the manner set down by the OSPR. While it was a breech of procedure for which a censure of the PPT may be in order, I would be opposed to the PPT being kicked out of that office for this act. As for him saying that you wanted to advertise pornography on the nation's coins he's fully within his power to do that. Atlasia has no slander or libel laws, he can print anything he wants about you. If people want to see if its true they can easily look in the legislation introduction thread and see for themselves. Newspaper's in Atlasia are opinionated and opinion oriented for the reason that the facts are easy to find, just scroll down a few threads and you'll find the facts staring at you.

Of course Porce has been rude, offensive and abrasive in his newspaper but I have yet to see him do so in the Senate. He maintains a decorum while he is in this chamber which I have not seen you do. I don't really care about his actions outside of the Senate, which are suspect in some ways, but while he is acting in his duty as Senator he upholds the standards of this legislature.

[Ebowed]

He accused me of wanting to advertise pornography on our nation's coins.

Have you read your own legislation?

[DownWithTheLeft]

He accused me of wanting to advertise pornography on our nation's coins.

Have you read your own legislation?

Yes, the money required to do something like this would most likely not be acquired by such a business.  Anyway, the company would hopefully be smart enough to realize that it would be offensive and would not help business.  And the quota allows the government to pick which companies to mint coins for.  Also, I'm sure the bill will be amended in some form

[Bono]

Atlasia has no slander or libel laws, he can print anything he wants about you.

Tes we do. We have the laws that were grandfathered from US law, and common law.

[Colin]

Atlasia has no slander or libel laws, he can print anything he wants about you.

Tes we do. We have the laws that were grandfathered from US law, and common law.

Bono if we actually held true to those laws though every one of us, yourself included, would probably be barred from Atlasia at this current time or doing other forms of punishment for the "crimes" we committed. Overall we really don't have an applicable laws on the subject.

[The Man From G.O.P.]

I hereby change my vote to Aye, I encourage all Senators to view my statement in the Guam Statehood Bill and participate in this bill.

Aye

xTN2024


This brings the count to: 4 Ayes out of 4 votes cast.