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Question: What issue will hurt Biden the most during the campaign, even if he were to win?
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His age and health
 
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Hunter/Burisma scandal
 
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Handling of Israel/Palestine
 
#4
Classified Documents Case
 
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The economy/inflation
 
#6
Immigration/the border
 
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None of these will hurt Biden
 
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« on: February 25, 2024, 04:00:19 PM »

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« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2024, 04:46:09 PM »

His age and health is the only thing that sticks, the only thing that makes itself apparent almost whenever he makes a public statement. Like, it's not a good sign that Democrats need to find and post and flex about clips where Biden is behaving like a normal, coherent human being. This is an issue the GOP doesn't even need to hit him on explicitly because it's something that's so apparent, and it's not something that can be refuted in good faith.

Most of the other options listed are issues that come and go, and even the ones that are still relevant are polarizing. (Israel/Palestine, for instance, is one of those horseshoe things where the extremists on both ends get overrepresented in the media - particularly those on the far-left - but the truth is the average voter, like most mainstream Americans, is more or less in agreement with most of what Biden's done.) It's mainly overrepresented GOP opposition (or, in case of Israel-Palestine, from a few DSA far-lefters) to Biden's policies. These policies are neither as problematic for Biden nor as important to the voters as the GOP makes it seem.
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« Reply #2 on: February 25, 2024, 05:31:10 PM »

Age and health, but being against Trump moves it from disqualifying to almost irrelevant for most people.
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« Reply #3 on: February 25, 2024, 05:50:08 PM »
« Edited: February 25, 2024, 05:53:44 PM by MR DARK BRANDON »

His age and health is the only thing that sticks, the only thing that makes itself apparent almost whenever he makes a public statement. Like, it's not a good sign that Democrats need to find and post and flex about clips where Biden is behaving like a normal, coherent human being. This is an issue the GOP doesn't even need to hit him on explicitly because it's something that's so apparent, and it's not something that can be refuted in good faith.

Most of the other options listed are issues that come and go, and even the ones that are still relevant are polarizing. (Israel/Palestine, for instance, is one of those horseshoe things where the extremists on both ends get overrepresented in the media - particularly those on the far-left - but the truth is the average voter, like most mainstream Americans, is more or less in agreement with most of what Biden's done.) It's mainly overrepresented GOP opposition (or, in case of Israel-Palestine, from a few DSA far-lefters) to Biden's policies. These policies are neither as problematic for Biden nor as important to the voters as the GOP makes it seem.
Truth is Biden behaves like a coherent normal person >95% of the time, like if you watch his full speeches they are almost always strong. I’m glad democrats are working to spread smth other than the 3 second clips you see on the media. His campaign skills are criminally underrated.

Also that argument hurts less when you realize Trump is the same age and look at how he’s acted at recent rallies/events
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« Reply #4 on: February 25, 2024, 07:20:43 PM »

By far, his age. As superficial as it is.

In second is the Israel-Gaza conflict.

Third are the potentially negative perceptions of the economy. However, it does seem that slowly this issue is becoming less of a liability. Same with immigration and the Burisma bulls***. His campaign at least has actual counters to these now.

Fourth, a lack of knowledge or understanding of his accomplishments and their positive results. But that's what campaigns are for, after all.

The first two are by far the biggest problems of his though, yet they are also the ones he has the least control over.
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« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2024, 08:03:22 PM »

By far, his age. As superficial as it is.

In second is the Israel-Gaza conflict.

Third are the potentially negative perceptions of the economy. However, it does seem that slowly this issue is becoming less of a liability. Same with immigration and the Burisma bulls***. His campaign at least has actual counters to these now.

Fourth, a lack of knowledge or understanding of his accomplishments and their positive results. But that's what campaigns are for, after all.

The first two are by far the biggest problems of his though, yet they are also the ones he has the least control over.
The economy and immigration seem to be bigger liabilities than before for Biden and will continue getting bigger.
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« Reply #6 on: February 25, 2024, 08:06:06 PM »

Biden is close in the upper Midwest where he can take the lead with VBM he isn't cratering with blk voters because we have won every Special eDays except MS and LA , +4 is nothing to be down with in MI with VBM


Biden is gonna infersis raising taxes on rich in order to get reparations and poverty stricken blks aren't voting for Trump making 30 K a yr or less
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« Reply #7 on: February 25, 2024, 08:08:20 PM »

By far, his age. As superficial as it is.

In second is the Israel-Gaza conflict.

Third are the potentially negative perceptions of the economy. However, it does seem that slowly this issue is becoming less of a liability. Same with immigration and the Burisma bulls***. His campaign at least has actual counters to these now.

Fourth, a lack of knowledge or understanding of his accomplishments and their positive results. But that's what campaigns are for, after all.

The first two are by far the biggest problems of his though, yet they are also the ones he has the least control over.
The economy and immigration seem to be bigger liabilities than before for Biden and will continue getting bigger.


You keep saying the same thing and Ds have won every Special eDays except MS and LA, it's called voting

Polls don't understand that 1/3 rd of blk people are poverty , we're not voting TRUMP , I am in that 1/3 rd of blks in poverty
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« Reply #8 on: February 26, 2024, 12:11:57 AM »

By far, his age. As superficial as it is.

In second is the Israel-Gaza conflict.

Third are the potentially negative perceptions of the economy. However, it does seem that slowly this issue is becoming less of a liability. Same with immigration and the Burisma bulls***. His campaign at least has actual counters to these now.

Fourth, a lack of knowledge or understanding of his accomplishments and their positive results. But that's what campaigns are for, after all.

The first two are by far the biggest problems of his though, yet they are also the ones he has the least control over.

How is Israel-Gaza so problematic? Biden's largely stayed the course of American foreign policy. And believe me, the far-lefters who would've supported Biden but will abstain or go-third party because of this, are greatly overrepresented in the media, and their potential impact is being overstated by some on here. They are NOT going to flip MI, or any other state, into Trump's column. There aren't very many of them, not even in MI (in terms of % of statewide population), and the rightward swing will not be as dramatic as it's being made out to be.
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« Reply #9 on: February 26, 2024, 12:51:04 AM »

The classified documents and Hunter/Burisma won't hurn him at all.
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« Reply #10 on: February 26, 2024, 02:18:25 AM »

It’s 1000% his age/health.
And the real problem is -not- that voters think he’s too old.
It’s that he actually is too old to mount an effective campaign.
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« Reply #11 on: February 26, 2024, 06:39:18 AM »

Israel-Palestine. October 7 was a real turning point in polling.
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« Reply #12 on: February 26, 2024, 06:53:26 AM »

Israel-Palestine. October 7 was a real turning point in polling.
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Yeah we should trust polls not votes, lol we haven't voted yet, do you know Trump leads is inside MOE 5 do you know what MOE means
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« Reply #13 on: February 26, 2024, 08:49:03 AM »

By far, his age. As superficial as it is.

In second is the Israel-Gaza conflict.

Third are the potentially negative perceptions of the economy. However, it does seem that slowly this issue is becoming less of a liability. Same with immigration and the Burisma bulls***. His campaign at least has actual counters to these now.

Fourth, a lack of knowledge or understanding of his accomplishments and their positive results. But that's what campaigns are for, after all.

The first two are by far the biggest problems of his though, yet they are also the ones he has the least control over.

How is Israel-Gaza so problematic? Biden's largely stayed the course of American foreign policy. And believe me, the far-lefters who would've supported Biden but will abstain or go-third party because of this, are greatly overrepresented in the media, and their potential impact is being overstated by some on here. They are NOT going to flip MI, or any other state, into Trump's column. There aren't very many of them, not even in MI (in terms of % of statewide population), and the rightward swing will not be as dramatic as it's being made out to be.


Yeah this is something I’m scratching my head at as well. Mainly What about his handling of the Israel gaza conflict was so awful? He mainly took the mainstream positions in American foreign policy while also recognizing the need to send aid to the people of gaza who where being affected by it, not to mention negotiating a hostage deal. I genuinely don’t see what’s so awful about it, and nobody’s been able to argue this beyond using taglines like “genocide”
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« Reply #14 on: February 26, 2024, 09:47:19 AM »

The age issue, I guess. Especially if Biden makes several gaffes on the campaign trail. Or if he barely campaigns in person, which will confirm the perception that he's no longer up to the task.
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« Reply #15 on: February 26, 2024, 01:32:00 PM »

By far, his age. As superficial as it is.

In second is the Israel-Gaza conflict.

Third are the potentially negative perceptions of the economy. However, it does seem that slowly this issue is becoming less of a liability. Same with immigration and the Burisma bulls***. His campaign at least has actual counters to these now.

Fourth, a lack of knowledge or understanding of his accomplishments and their positive results. But that's what campaigns are for, after all.

The first two are by far the biggest problems of his though, yet they are also the ones he has the least control over.

How is Israel-Gaza so problematic? Biden's largely stayed the course of American foreign policy. And believe me, the far-lefters who would've supported Biden but will abstain or go-third party because of this, are greatly overrepresented in the media, and their potential impact is being overstated by some on here. They are NOT going to flip MI, or any other state, into Trump's column. There aren't very many of them, not even in MI (in terms of % of statewide population), and the rightward swing will not be as dramatic as it's being made out to be.


I personally don't blame Biden for Netanyahu's egregious actions. Yet to me, it's a distraction from what he wants to campaign on. Even if the conflict gets settled in a peaceful manner, I expect protestors to interrupt most campaign events and rallies he does this year.
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« Reply #16 on: February 26, 2024, 07:02:27 PM »

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« Reply #17 on: February 27, 2024, 07:28:30 PM »

Feel like its obviously inflation? Even if you don't think it's Biden's fault (I mostly don't), do people here actually think he'd have a better chance if he was 20 years younger than if inflation was 2% for the four years? Inflation has cast a cloud over his presidency and it'll cast one over the campaign too.
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« Reply #18 on: February 27, 2024, 07:56:19 PM »

None of these. The media wanting Trump-era ratings back is what will really hurt him in the end.
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« Reply #19 on: February 27, 2024, 10:18:09 PM »

His age, without question.

The war in Gaza could, theoretically, end tomorrow.

The economy could continue to improve every day until November.

The border situation could be complete non-issue by Election Day.

But Biden can't make himself younger.
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« Reply #20 on: February 28, 2024, 12:06:59 PM »

The war in Gaza could, theoretically, end tomorrow.

The economy could continue to improve every day until November.

The border situation could be complete non-issue by Election Day.
...and in that situation, Biden wins at least 360 electoral votes, maybe more.
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« Reply #21 on: February 28, 2024, 12:43:16 PM »

1. His age and health


2. Immigration / the border
3. His handling of Israel/Palestine

4. The economy/inflation






5. Hunter/Burisma scandal
6. Classified Documents case
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« Reply #22 on: February 28, 2024, 12:54:53 PM »

His age and health is the only thing that sticks, the only thing that makes itself apparent almost whenever he makes a public statement. Like, it's not a good sign that Democrats need to find and post and flex about clips where Biden is behaving like a normal, coherent human being. This is an issue the GOP doesn't even need to hit him on explicitly because it's something that's so apparent, and it's not something that can be refuted in good faith.

Most of the other options listed are issues that come and go, and even the ones that are still relevant are polarizing. (Israel/Palestine, for instance, is one of those horseshoe things where the extremists on both ends get overrepresented in the media - particularly those on the far-left - but the truth is the average voter, like most mainstream Americans, is more or less in agreement with most of what Biden's done.) It's mainly overrepresented GOP opposition (or, in case of Israel-Palestine, from a few DSA far-lefters) to Biden's policies. These policies are neither as problematic for Biden nor as important to the voters as the GOP makes it seem.
Truth is Biden behaves like a coherent normal person >95% of the time, like if you watch his full speeches they are almost always strong. I’m glad democrats are working to spread smth other than the 3 second clips you see on the media. His campaign skills are criminally underrated.

Also that argument hurts less when you realize Trump is the same age and look at how he’s acted at recent rallies/events

When Biden has the teleprompter and is loaded up on stimulants he is forceful and pushes through speech issues mostly. It's just that when he doesn't have access to a teleprompter he speaks less coherently/more circuitously and when he's not excited he speaks slowly and mumbles. I'm not trying to be flippant with the stimulants, there's just two distinct versions of Biden and Presidents have been known to take them given the demands of the job.

Trump is definitely on stimulants too but is rarely using a teleprompter. Trump is totally different using one, subdued, quieter, more scripted obviously. It's deployed rarely and is glaringly obvious each time.
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« Reply #23 on: February 28, 2024, 01:26:57 PM »

Interference in our domestic politics by the Russian government and other hostile foreign powers, in support of their de facto ally, Donald J. Trump, leader of the Republican Party.
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« Reply #24 on: February 29, 2024, 08:49:43 AM »

Age first, immigration second, corrupt third
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