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« on: February 25, 2024, 03:56:45 PM »

https://wtop.com/dc/2024/02/howard-u-poll-shows-good-news-for-former-president-trump/

"Former President Trump receives good news from new Howard U. poll"
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« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2024, 04:03:28 PM »

Trump isn't winning blk vote
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« Reply #2 on: February 25, 2024, 04:03:44 PM »

THANK YOU BISON!
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« Reply #3 on: February 25, 2024, 04:07:12 PM »

Trump won't get a fourth of the black vote. Not even close. He'll get around 10-12% at best. A little more with men, less with women.
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« Reply #4 on: February 25, 2024, 04:07:49 PM »

Many interesting things are happening in Detroit.
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« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2024, 04:11:27 PM »


This poll does not say that.  It just says Trump will get a large swing in his favor with the MI Black vote. 
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« Reply #6 on: February 25, 2024, 04:18:11 PM »



You guys only gotta 1/4 th of blk vote in the special Edays like KY G
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« Reply #7 on: February 25, 2024, 04:18:26 PM »

Maybe RFK Jr can grab 20% if Biden and Trump have 75% collectively
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« Reply #8 on: February 25, 2024, 04:20:48 PM »


This poll does not say that.  It just says Trump will get a large swing in his favor with the MI Black vote.  

Lol these are polls not votes we have won every special except MS and LA, stop trying to contradict me
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« Reply #9 on: February 25, 2024, 04:31:26 PM »

Users get so anxious over polls not votes
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« Reply #10 on: February 25, 2024, 05:48:28 PM »

The primary is on Tuesday so if Biden really is suffering from a loss of support amongst black voters, we should be able to see signs of it.
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« Reply #11 on: February 25, 2024, 05:59:31 PM »

The primary is on Tuesday so if Biden really is suffering from a loss of support amongst black voters, we should be able to see signs of it.


He isn't it's just a poll Beshear did well with blk voters
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« Reply #12 on: February 25, 2024, 06:50:52 PM »

This confirms the trends I've seen over the last three years.  Black Men are shifting towards Trump.  There is a major coalition of American Men in the working-class communities that no longer want to return to Neocon Republicans or the Establishment Left that have adopted radical policies. In fact, all men are abandoning the left-wing extremists in pretty much every country on the planet.  

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« Reply #13 on: February 25, 2024, 06:53:00 PM »

Horrible news for Biden if accurate (I don't think Trump will get more than 15% of the black vote...)
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« Reply #14 on: February 25, 2024, 06:53:48 PM »

Horrible news for Biden if accurate (I don't think Trump will get more than 15% of the black vote...)

Lol it's a poll not votes, if Biden is losing blk men how did Beshear win over a blk candidate Cameron
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« Reply #15 on: February 25, 2024, 07:40:31 PM »

I know that people obsess over this topic every 4 years and it doesn't come to fruition, but have we ever before seen this many polls of the black vote that are this bad for Dems? To be clear, I still don't think Trump would get more than 12-13% of the black vote if the election were held today, but this does seem to be much different than the usual fake hype about "DEMOCRATIC PLANTATION COLLAPSING" yada yada.
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« Reply #16 on: February 25, 2024, 09:45:28 PM »

I know that people obsess over this topic every 4 years and it doesn't come to fruition, but have we ever before seen this many polls of the black vote that are this bad for Dems? To be clear, I still don't think Trump would get more than 12-13% of the black vote if the election were held today, but this does seem to be much different than the usual fake hype about "DEMOCRATIC PLANTATION COLLAPSING" yada yada.

Not going to lie, I'm concerned.
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« Reply #17 on: February 25, 2024, 09:47:01 PM »

Just remember Rs are supposed to gain seats and they have lost every Eday since 2018, and they supposed to have gained 30 seats in 22 we lost a dozen only


Blk voters are not going to TRUMP , my Eday is up for 26 and we have 4 more Senate seats up for grabs
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« Reply #18 on: February 25, 2024, 10:13:55 PM »

I know that people obsess over this topic every 4 years and it doesn't come to fruition, but have we ever before seen this many polls of the black vote that are this bad for Dems? To be clear, I still don't think Trump would get more than 12-13% of the black vote if the election were held today, but this does seem to be much different than the usual fake hype about "DEMOCRATIC PLANTATION COLLAPSING" yada yada.
It's honestly not about Trump's vote share but turnout. Biden can win blacks 95-5, but it still hurts him if Detroit doesn't show up like he needs it to.
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« Reply #19 on: February 25, 2024, 10:19:35 PM »

I know that people obsess over this topic every 4 years and it doesn't come to fruition, but have we ever before seen this many polls of the black vote that are this bad for Dems? To be clear, I still don't think Trump would get more than 12-13% of the black vote if the election were held today, but this does seem to be much different than the usual fake hype about "DEMOCRATIC PLANTATION COLLAPSING" yada yada.
It's honestly not about Trump's vote share but turnout. Biden can win blacks 95-5, but it still hurts him if Detroit doesn't show up like he needs it to.

Quite true.
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« Reply #20 on: February 25, 2024, 10:30:00 PM »

If you need proof that there is a systematic problem with polling here it is. Like come on people, if there was such a massive swing in the electoral or political patterns of black Americans it would be noticed in some way beyond polling.
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« Reply #21 on: February 25, 2024, 11:01:32 PM »

If you need proof that there is a systematic problem with polling here it is. Like come on people, if there was such a massive swing in the electoral or political patterns of black Americans it would be noticed in some way beyond polling.
What signs were there about the Hispanic swings in 2020? Do you mean like anecdotal stuff?
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« Reply #22 on: February 25, 2024, 11:10:05 PM »

Where is this showing up in election results though? You all continue to dismiss election results in favor of polling as if polling is more reliable than actual results. Even in the South Carolina primary Trump lost urban Black precincts to Nikki Haley so even the few Black voters already in the GOP don't seem that solid for him.
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« Reply #23 on: February 25, 2024, 11:13:21 PM »

I know that people obsess over this topic every 4 years and it doesn't come to fruition, but have we ever before seen this many polls of the black vote that are this bad for Dems? To be clear, I still don't think Trump would get more than 12-13% of the black vote if the election were held today, but this does seem to be much different than the usual fake hype about "DEMOCRATIC PLANTATION COLLAPSING" yada yada.
It's honestly not about Trump's vote share but turnout. Biden can win blacks 95-5, but it still hurts him if Detroit doesn't show up like he needs it to.

Biden can’t survive more than a 25% drop in turnout with black voters in MI, from my estimates.
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« Reply #24 on: February 25, 2024, 11:16:04 PM »

If you need proof that there is a systematic problem with polling here it is. Like come on people, if there was such a massive swing in the electoral or political patterns of black Americans it would be noticed in some way beyond polling.
What signs were there about the Hispanic swings in 2020? Do you mean like anecdotal stuff?
The Hispanic swings were about 10% nationwide and the specific places where they were most pronounced which is Miami there were plenty of signs while the RGV is pretty much ignored by most us news prior to now.

The polls are suggesting a swing of around 40-50 points which is just on another level.
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