Alaska RCV Repeal makes ballot

[Arizona Iced Tea]

https://twitter.com/907Honest/status/1761497857704771709

[Arizona Iced Tea]

It's apparently still pending whether or not this will be on the primary or general ballot. If it's on the primary ballot, it almost certainly is getting repealed to Dem turnout being abysmal.

[Spectator]

RIP Murkowski in 2028 then. Doubt she runs. Peltola probably survives this year and 2026 if Trump is President. Murkowski probably endorses her as a successor.

[Vice President Christian Man]

RIP Alaska's moderate profile. Hopefully it goes nowhere.

[smoltchanov]

Idiocy. If i would decide - i would expand Alaska experience on all 50 states. American parties became a mockery of common sense of late, especially - Republican, which became comparable to our "United Russia" with Trump in Putin's place.. But - what else to expect: US politics degraded very much in 50+ years i observe and analyze it.. Simply - one more confirmation)))

[Arizona Iced Tea]

Idiocy. If i would decide - i would expand Alaska experience on all 50 states. American parties became a mockery of common sense of late, especially - Republican, which became comparable to our "United Russia" with Trump in Putin's place.. But - what else to expect: US politics degraded very much in 50+ years i observe and analyze it.. Simply - one more confirmation)))

I prefer Maines method of RCV at least which has a traditional party primary but allows RCV for 3rd parties in the general. Alaska took the jungle primary system and caused a mess with it.

[Birdish]

It's apparently still pending whether or not this will be on the primary or general ballot. If it's on the primary ballot, it almost certainly is getting repealed to Dem turnout being abysmal.

The Republican primary is on March 4th. The Dem primary is on April 6th.

I imagine the primary date you're refrencing would be the state primary on August 20th. I don't think turnout would be lopsided since neither Trump nor Biden would be on the ballot.

Edit: In fact, neither senator nor governor are up for re-election this year. So the big ticket federal race would be Peltola.

[Steve from Lambeth]

This is not "an unprecedented mobilization for electoral reform" and it is quite obvious that 907Honest has used ChatGPT to come up with that claim. The Committee for Ranked Choice Voting placed Question 1 on Maine's ballot in June 2018, although the effect of a yes vote would have been to sustain rather than repeal RCV.

[SnowLabrador]

RIP Mary Peltola's political career.

[Bernie Derangement Syndrome Haver]

RIP Mary Peltola's political career.

Who says this effort to repeal would actually succeed?

[The world will shine with light in our nightmare]

Anything to reinforce our retarded American duopoly and force people to only vote for The System's sh!tty candidates. Democracy in action.

[President Johnson]

RCV is a huge improvement over the previous system, especially in a state with a higher third party/independent vote share. If you want to repeal it, then at least switch to a runoff system.

[Vice President Christian Man]

RCV is a huge improvement over the previous system, especially in a state with a higher third party/independent vote share. If you want to repeal it, then at least switch to a runoff system.

They're too bitter about the Sarah Palin & Kelly Tshibaka losses for any type of repeal outside of what was the status quo.

[politicallefty]

Idiocy. If i would decide - i would expand Alaska experience on all 50 states. American parties became a mockery of common sense of late, especially - Republican, which became comparable to our "United Russia" with Trump in Putin's place.. But - what else to expect: US politics degraded very much in 50+ years i observe and analyze it.. Simply - one more confirmation)))

I prefer Maines method of RCV at least which has a traditional party primary but allows RCV for 3rd parties in the general. Alaska took the jungle primary system and caused a mess with it.

I agree with you here and it's almost exactly what I was going to say. That would be the ideal system short of some form of proportional representation. Anything's better than top-two or the jungle primary though (where the dominant party can end up shut out of the general election). It does seem like Alaska's top-four system was designed to prevent such an occurrence.

I don't think Alaska's top-four RCV system is perfect by any means, but it's far better than what came before it. It needs to be tweaked a bit, not repealed. FPTP is awful in general, but especially in a state like Alaska. Considering how unique the Alaska Legislature is organized, I'm almost surprised there isn't a new party that could take hold (like the "Alaska Party" or something). If any faltering of the partisan duopoly happens, it will almost certainly start in Alaska (though one could say it already has begun in a small way).

[DrScholl]

That graphic is so cringe worthy. It's not "Rank Choice" it's "Ranked Choice". And I wouldn't assume Murkowski is finished without ranked choice. She can always run as an independent and Democrats can decline to run anyone in the Senate race if it appears she is a better guarantee to beat an extremists.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

RIP Mary Peltola's political career.

Who says this effort to repeal would actually succeed?

Take a look who you're replying to.

And then ask yourself if he's ever worth replying to.

[warandwar]

Alaska's system makes 0 sense and neither does RCV for single member seats. RCV proponents have decided to depoliticize voting system reform by making it about choice and heybothpartiesarecrooked because they think initiatives won't get passed otherwise.

[wnwnwn]

It's an electoral system that helps moderates.
Basically what Founding Father wanted, I suppose.

[Mr. Smith]

Alaska's system makes 0 sense and neither does RCV for single member seats. RCV proponents have decided to depoliticize voting system reform by making it about choice and heybothpartiesarecrooked because they think initiatives won't get passed otherwise.

Are they wrong in the logic?

[warandwar]

Alaska's system makes 0 sense and neither does RCV for single member seats. RCV proponents have decided to depoliticize voting system reform by making it about choice and heybothpartiesarecrooked because they think initiatives won't get passed otherwise.

Are they wrong in the logic?

I don't think it actually builds popular support for the system. Maine's advocates successfully framed RCV as an end to minority rule. I doubt Alaskans think of RCV in the same way and the top 4 primary seems like an unnecessarily confusing twist.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Alaska's system makes 0 sense

It's a dumb system but is still better than FPTP, especially in a state like Alaska with so many plurality victories.

and neither does RCV for single member seats.

Australia seems to do it fine.

[RussFeingoldWasRobbed]

Watch Peltola still become a lifer

[Sir Mohamed]

How likely is this going to be approved? Did Peltola's and Murkowski's wins really trigger the right so much that they want to repeal RCV over that?

[Peeperkorn]

This country can be so dumb sometimes...

Both left and right are currently controlled by retards looking exclusively for short term partisan victories.

[Virginiá]

How likely is this going to be approved? Did Peltola's and Murkowski's wins really trigger the right so much that they want to repeal RCV over that?

It passed in 2020 50.55% - 49.45%, so take that as you will.