Amazon joins Tesla and Trader Joe in suing constitutionality of NLRB

[lfromnj]

https://apnews.com/article/amazon-nlrb-unconstitutional-union-labor-459331e9b77f5be0e5202c147654993e

Just bought 3 shares of Amazon. Thank you Bezos !

[AGA]

I bet almost all the people mad about this get weekly Amazon deliveries.

[GP270watch]

 What are you celebrating exactly?

 I swear some of you'll can't wait to be serfs.

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

I bet almost all the people mad about this get weekly Amazon deliveries.

I don't, and even if I did, the idea that a business's customers shouldn't have opinions about how that business operates doesn't seem very capitalist to me.

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

What are you celebrating exactly?

 I swear some of you'll can't wait to be serfs.

Who said we were going to be the serfs? That's your job, peasant. I'm a Person of Land.

[GP270watch]

What are you celebrating exactly?

 I swear some of you'll can't wait to be serfs.

Who said we were going to be the serfs? That's your job, peasant. I'm a Person of Land.

lol, land

 This is about the largest corporations feeling labor laws don't apply to them. You're a peon my guy.

[Dr. MB]

I bet almost all the people mad about this get weekly Amazon deliveries.

Why don't you think the NLRB should exist?

[AGA]

I bet almost all the people mad about this get weekly Amazon deliveries.

Why don't you think the NLRB should exist?

I haven't looked into this case in depth, so I haven't taken one side or other. Just commenting that you don't see too many people boycotting Amazon even though there are a lot of people complaining about it.

[Beet]

I bet almost all the people mad about this get weekly Amazon deliveries.

Why don't you think the NLRB should exist?

I haven't looked into this case in depth, so I haven't taken one side or other. Just commenting that you don't see too many people boycotting Amazon even though there are a lot of people complaining about it.

You're the living embodiment of an outdated meme:

https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/we-should-improve-society-somewhat

[Born to Slay. Forced to Work.]

What are you celebrating exactly?

 I swear some of you'll can't wait to be serfs.

Some people like having their junk crushed by the boot of their capitalist overlords

[GoTfan]

People who are cheering this on clearly despise the fact that workers are actually taking back the power Taft-Hartley stripped from them.

[Reactionary Libertarian]

John Roberts better have the courage.

[GoTfan]

John Roberts better have the courage.

There is no appetite outside of anarcho-capitialists for this. Unless you want to return to the militant labour strikes of the 1900s.

[Reactionary Libertarian]

John Roberts better have the courage.

There is no appetite outside of anarcho-capitialists for this. Unless you want to return to the militant labour strikes of the 1900s.

Not gonna happen. Organized labor is the weakest it’s been in decades, and working conditions are far better than in the 1900’s.

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

John Roberts better have the courage.

There is no appetite outside of anarcho-capitialists for this. Unless you want to return to the militant labour strikes of the 1900s.

Not gonna happen. Organized labor is the weakest it’s been in decades, and working conditions are far better than in the 1900’s.

Both of which will continue to be the case in perpetuity, I'm sure.

[GoTfan]

John Roberts better have the courage.

There is no appetite outside of anarcho-capitialists for this. Unless you want to return to the militant labour strikes of the 1900s.

Not gonna happen. Organized labor is the weakest it’s been in decades, and working conditions are far better than in the 1900’s.

Did the UAW just have a strike that pretty much forced the auto companies into better working conditions?

There is no appetite for striking down the NLRB outside of fringe anarcho-capitalists. And when it does get removed, you return to the militant labour groups. We saw it happen when Roe was overturned; people take for granted what they have and get angry when you take it away. Remove the NLRB and thus landing a heavy blow against the ability of workers to organise is going to increase radicalisation among workers.

More to the point, the NLRB exists to supervise labour group elections and guard against unfair labour practices. Get rid of it, then we're back in the era of militant labour strikes. Except I'm not sure employers would come off better in this case because specialised strikebreaking groups like the Pinkertons have a very bad reputation.

So let's make a deal: if the NLRB is to be disposed of, then strikebreaking should be made illegal.

[Badger]

What are you celebrating exactly?

 I swear some of you'll can't wait to be serfs.

Some people like having their junk crushed by the boot of their capitalist overlords

I think for some of the reprehensible posts in this thread it's as much a case of people believing themselves to be temporarily embarrassed millionaires, or that they will become millionaires and when they do strong unions won't provide their businesses a strong Supply of middle class purchasing clients/customers, but evenly Leach away at their profit margin. Short-sighted as well as a moral, but Libertarians got a libertarian

[Filuwaúrdjan]

America Moment

[Electric Circus]

It's easy to avoid using Amazon's retail site, even if you want to avoid going to a store. Twenty years ago, it filled a niche. Ten years ago, the competition wasn't quite there.

Today, when I use my common sense, I can't see much justification for ordering consumer goods from Amazon. They remain successful as a business because they have an established brand, a lot of gee-whiz gimmicks that appeal to our instincts for instant gratification, and a store membership program that encourages people not to think too much about where they make about their next purchase.

If you shop there, it's  choice. You are choosing to tolerate how they treat you as a customer, and you are choosing to tolerate how they treat others, including workers, vendor partners, and shareholders. (I list all of them because I think all of them have legitimate grievances.) Yes, there are parts of their business that are more difficult to avoid, but their online storefront is not one of them.

A lot of products have become easy enough to order directly from the manufacturer. This includes some book publishers. Big box stores like Walmart and Home Depot have as good or better websites: Search results aren't as manipulated, counterfeit goods are less common, and even their shipping policies compare favorably to Amazon.

There are a few exceptions, e.g. some craft vendors picking Amazon as an exclusive storefront over an even more ensh!ttified Etsy. But these aren't life-altering. They're easy to work around. I closed my Amazon account over ten years ago, and the only time that it's been so much as a slight inconvenience was when I put off my Christmas shopping for far-flung relatives.

It's ridiculous to say that customers need to boycott Amazon to have an opinion about it, but if you're not comfortable with how they do business, you don't need to live with it.

[lfromnj]

What are you celebrating exactly?

 I swear some of you'll can't wait to be serfs

Some people like having their junk crushed by the boot of their capitalist overlords

I think for some of the reprehensible posts in this thread it's as much a case of people believing themselves to be temporarily embarrassed millionaires, or that they will become millionaires and when they do strong unions won't provide their businesses a strong Supply of middle class purchasing clients/customers, but evenly Leach away at their profit margin. Short-sighted as well as a moral, but Libertarians got a libertarian

There are more millionaires in America than union workers and I will likely never join a union yet I'm supposed to stan with the workers . So called union workers were a key cause in the supply chain issues of 2022 because they rent seek.

[lfromnj]

John Roberts better have the courage.

There is no appetite outside of anarcho-capitialists for this. Unless you want to return to the militant labour strikes of the 1900s.

Not gonna happen. Organized labor is the weakest it’s been in decades, and working conditions are far better than in the 1900’s.

Did the UAW just have a strike that pretty much forced the auto companies into better working conditions?

There is no appetite for striking down the NLRB outside of fringe anarcho-capitalists. And when it does get removed, you return to the militant labour groups. We saw it happen when Roe was overturned; people take for granted what they have and get angry when you take it away. Remove the NLRB and thus landing a heavy blow against the ability of workers to organise is going to increase radicalisation among workers.

More to the point, the NLRB exists to supervise labour group elections and guard against unfair labour practices. Get rid of it, then we're back in the era of militant labour strikes. Except I'm not sure employers would come off better in this case because specialised strikebreaking groups like the Pinkertons have a very bad reputation.

So let's make a deal: if the NLRB is to be disposed of, then strikebreaking should be made illegal.

There are only 7 million private sector union workers . I would estimate only 5 million are in a real union style job and the others could just be in something like Krogers.

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

John Roberts better have the courage.

There is no appetite outside of anarcho-capitialists for this. Unless you want to return to the militant labour strikes of the 1900s.

Not gonna happen. Organized labor is the weakest it’s been in decades, and working conditions are far better than in the 1900’s.

Did the UAW just have a strike that pretty much forced the auto companies into better working conditions?

There is no appetite for striking down the NLRB outside of fringe anarcho-capitalists. And when it does get removed, you return to the militant labour groups. We saw it happen when Roe was overturned; people take for granted what they have and get angry when you take it away. Remove the NLRB and thus landing a heavy blow against the ability of workers to organise is going to increase radicalisation among workers.

More to the point, the NLRB exists to supervise labour group elections and guard against unfair labour practices. Get rid of it, then we're back in the era of militant labour strikes. Except I'm not sure employers would come off better in this case because specialised strikebreaking groups like the Pinkertons have a very bad reputation.

So let's make a deal: if the NLRB is to be disposed of, then strikebreaking should be made illegal.

There are only 7 million private sector union workers . I would estimate only 5 million are in a real union style job and the others could just be in something like Krogers.

What on earth does this mean?

[lfromnj]

John Roberts better have the courage.

There is no appetite outside of anarcho-capitialists for this. Unless you want to return to the militant labour strikes of the 1900s.

Not gonna happen. Organized labor is the weakest it’s been in decades, and working conditions are far better than in the 1900’s.

Did the UAW just have a strike that pretty much forced the auto companies into better working conditions?

There is no appetite for striking down the NLRB outside of fringe anarcho-capitalists. And when it does get removed, you return to the militant labour groups. We saw it happen when Roe was overturned; people take for granted what they have and get angry when you take it away. Remove the NLRB and thus landing a heavy blow against the ability of workers to organise is going to increase radicalisation among workers.

More to the point, the NLRB exists to supervise labour group elections and guard against unfair labour practices. Get rid of it, then we're back in the era of militant labour strikes. Except I'm not sure employers would come off better in this case because specialised strikebreaking groups like the Pinkertons have a very bad reputation.

So let's make a deal: if the NLRB is to be disposed of, then strikebreaking should be made illegal.

There are only 7 million private sector union workers . I would estimate only 5 million are in a real union style job and the others could just be in something like Krogers.

What on earth does this mean?

From what I heard the Kroger union is pretty useless and benefits and other stuff seem pretty low. Kroger itself has a few 100k and I assume similar companies exist. Maybe not 2 million but a million is pretty likely

[GP270watch]

What are you celebrating exactly?

 I swear some of you'll can't wait to be serfs

Some people like having their junk crushed by the boot of their capitalist overlords

I think for some of the reprehensible posts in this thread it's as much a case of people believing themselves to be temporarily embarrassed millionaires, or that they will become millionaires and when they do strong unions won't provide their businesses a strong Supply of middle class purchasing clients/customers, but evenly Leach away at their profit margin. Short-sighted as well as a moral, but Libertarians got a libertarian

There are more millionaires in America than union workers and I will likely never join a union yet I'm supposed to stan with the workers . So called union workers were a key cause in the supply chain issues of 2022 because they rent seek.

  There are 14.4 million union members in the USA and 7 million individual millionaires and you make a big assumption that the groups don't overlap. So your claim is false.

 Belonging to a union has a lifelong earnings equivalent equal to or surpassing getting a Bachelor's degree according to every study that's looked at this. Union members on average also have an earlier retirement age than non-union members.

[All Along The Watchtower]

Organized labor is the weakest it’s been in decades

This really isn’t true anymore.