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« on: February 17, 2024, 05:59:03 PM »

Amazon argues that national labor board is unconstitutional, joining SpaceX and Trader Joe’s

Absolutely horrific, I suppose since they can't make any factual arguments to win their workers over when they're actually offered a fair chance at a union so they'd rather just get rid of the process entirely? The NLRB is already fairly toothless, unions will be dead in America without even the meager enforcement of labor law that they can offer.
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« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2024, 06:00:57 PM »

It’s funny cause the NLRB was made to protect businesses… see what happens when it’s gone
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« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2024, 06:06:24 PM »

Good luck. Outside of the 5th Circuit & maybe Thomas, there isn't really an unironic appetite among legal conservatives to outright eliminate agencies wholesale like the NLRB, SEC, Social Security Administration, etc., so much as a desire to significantly reform them to conservatives' benefit by removing any & all of the political protections that insulate them from the control of GOP Presidents (e.g., ruling in Seila Law & Collins v. Yellen that removing some agency heads only for-cause is unconstitutional; more broadly, see also: Trump & now Project 2025's Schedule F, which literally stands for "Failed State" because of course modern conservatives don't already see themselves enough in the status-quo as persecuted victims forced to cheat to take Ws home), who are interested in maximally deregulating across the entire bureaucracy in order to actively provide support for the legality of their associated industries' (e.g., Wall St. finance) otherwise illegal activities with the full backing of the law by virtue of the federal government's stamp of approval. Perhaps SCOTUS' curiosity is piqued enough by the separate Starbucks cert. petition to quibble with some minor aspects of the NLRA like their unique test for preliminary injunctions to find them unconstitutional, but the overall act is clearly constitutional under Rehnquist's view of Congress' interstate commerce powers to regulate even intrastate businesses that substantially affect interstate commerce.
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« Reply #3 on: February 17, 2024, 06:10:27 PM »

Great. So they will be just fine if unionized workers across the United States refuse to deal with Amazon, SpaceX, Trader Joes, etc in any way, right? Starting with no deliveries from the teamsters union.

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« Reply #4 on: February 17, 2024, 07:33:59 PM »

 It's crazy how almost 100 years later we have less progressive policy than the New Deal era because the billionaire class has so thoroughly won the propaganda war and people take all their labor rights for granted like they always existed and people didn't have to fight, vote, and even die for them.
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« Reply #5 on: February 17, 2024, 07:37:57 PM »

It’s funny cause the NLRB was made to protect businesses… see what happens when it’s gone

Are you advocating for a insurrection? If we gonna LARP i will defend my local Amazon warehouse.
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« Reply #6 on: February 17, 2024, 07:56:02 PM »

Don't know the specifics of this case, but the more the NLRB keeps its nose out of Amazon's business, the better. Amazon unions have made really unreasonable demands.
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« Reply #7 on: February 17, 2024, 08:23:19 PM »

These CEOs watch "Matewan" and think the coal companies are the good guys.
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« Reply #8 on: February 17, 2024, 10:07:33 PM »

It’s funny cause the NLRB was made to protect businesses… see what happens when it’s gone

Are you advocating for a insurrection? If we gonna LARP i will defend my local Amazon warehouse.

The fact that you're cheering workers having less rights doesn't say anything positive about you.
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« Reply #9 on: February 17, 2024, 10:08:24 PM »

It’s funny cause the NLRB was made to protect businesses… see what happens when it’s gone

Are you advocating for a insurrection? If we gonna LARP i will defend my local Amazon warehouse.

Literally what lmao.
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« Reply #10 on: February 17, 2024, 11:23:08 PM »

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« Reply #11 on: February 17, 2024, 11:26:12 PM »

It’s funny cause the NLRB was made to protect businesses… see what happens when it’s gone

Are you advocating for a insurrection? If we gonna LARP i will defend my local Amazon warehouse.

Literally what lmao.

Explain how the NLRB "protects" buisnesses except from the outrages of a mob.
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« Reply #12 on: February 17, 2024, 11:35:59 PM »

It’s funny cause the NLRB was made to protect businesses… see what happens when it’s gone

Are you advocating for a insurrection? If we gonna LARP i will defend my local Amazon warehouse.

You really do not know what insurrection means. You all have been trying to find a way to project it on to others but have failed.
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« Reply #13 on: February 18, 2024, 03:45:20 AM »
« Edited: February 18, 2024, 03:48:29 AM by Badger »

It’s funny cause the NLRB was made to protect businesses… see what happens when it’s gone

Are you advocating for a insurrection? If we gonna LARP i will defend my local Amazon warehouse.

Literally what lmao.

Explain how the NLRB "protects" buisnesses except from the outrages of a mob.

Still an ugly look, not that you perceive it.

Also, LOL at the tough guy pose. If things got real to picket line,  you have no idea how bad things would probably wind up for you. What a quintessentially Suburban yellow Avatar chest pounding response.
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« Reply #14 on: February 18, 2024, 06:44:20 AM »

https://www.thecrimson.com/article/1968/11/6/dismantling-nlrb-pbibf-you-think-the/

Found this article from the Crimson in 1968 when conservatives also had this idea.

It’s funny cause the NLRB was made to protect businesses… see what happens when it’s gone

Are you advocating for a insurrection? If we gonna LARP i will defend my local Amazon warehouse.

I don't think he was saying that? The nrlb is just a tribunal that brings both sides together, rather than the alternative of having labour and management at each other's throats and constantly escalating. The easy solution for thr nrlb is just for conservatives to stack its board with management friendly patsies.
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« Reply #15 on: February 18, 2024, 07:54:07 AM »

Good luck. Outside of the 5th Circuit & maybe Thomas, there isn't really an unironic appetite among legal conservatives to outright eliminate agencies wholesale like the NLRB, SEC, Social Security Administration, etc., so much as a desire to significantly reform them to conservatives' benefit by removing any & all of the political protections that insulate them from the control of GOP Presidents (e.g., ruling in Seila Law & Collins v. Yellen that removing some agency heads only for-cause is unconstitutional; more broadly, see also: Trump & now Project 2025's Schedule F, which literally stands for "Failed State" because of course modern conservatives don't already see themselves enough in the status-quo as persecuted victims forced to cheat to take Ws home), who are interested in maximally deregulating across the entire bureaucracy in order to actively provide support for the legality of their associated industries' (e.g., Wall St. finance) otherwise illegal activities with the full backing of the law by virtue of the federal government's stamp of approval. Perhaps SCOTUS' curiosity is piqued enough by the separate Starbucks cert. petition to quibble with some minor aspects of the NLRA like their unique test for preliminary injunctions to find them unconstitutional, but the overall act is clearly constitutional under Rehnquist's view of Congress' interstate commerce powers to regulate even intrastate businesses that substantially affect interstate commerce.

Yeah, not seeing this on the table (or any New Deal era stuff really) after Seila Law.  Even Alito didn't go after CFPB in it's entirety.
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