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« Reply #50 on: February 15, 2024, 11:17:34 PM »


Biden is the one asking congress to put tougher border legislation on his desk to sign. Republicans are the ones refusing to vote for it.
You think this Potemkin legislation will do anything? Seriously?
… what do you want then? Snipers in Eagle Pass?
No, some barbed wire and shipping containers would suffice.

Ah I see, maiming is acceptable but not murder
Nobody is forcing them to crawl through the barbed wire at gun point.
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« Reply #51 on: February 16, 2024, 11:51:12 PM »


Biden is the one asking congress to put tougher border legislation on his desk to sign. Republicans are the ones refusing to vote for it.
You think this Potemkin legislation will do anything? Seriously?
… what do you want then? Snipers in Eagle Pass?
No, some barbed wire and shipping containers would suffice.

Ah I see, maiming is acceptable but not murder
Nobody is forcing them to crawl through the barbed wire at gun point.

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« Reply #52 on: February 17, 2024, 12:18:20 AM »

Supporting barbed wire barriers makes you a sociopath? Barbed wire is a very standard part of border barriers around the world, including some points of the northern border. It's also used in mundane civilian applications such as airports and industrial facilities. The point is to discourage people from climbing over the barrier, something which is much needed when you have a situation where people have strong incentives to cross the border illegally.
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« Reply #53 on: February 17, 2024, 12:32:39 AM »

Supporting barbed wire barriers makes you a sociopath? Barbed wire is a very standard part of border barriers around the world, including some points of the northern border. It's also used in mundane civilian applications such as airports and industrial facilities. The point is to discourage people from climbing over the barrier, something which is much needed when you have a situation where people have strong incentives to cross the border illegally.

Context is important. Try again
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« Reply #54 on: February 17, 2024, 11:27:37 AM »

Badger you’re just getting lazy with your arguments at this point.
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« Reply #55 on: February 17, 2024, 11:31:32 AM »

Supporting barbed wire barriers makes you a sociopath? Barbed wire is a very standard part of border barriers around the world, including some points of the northern border. It's also used in mundane civilian applications such as airports and industrial facilities. The point is to discourage people from climbing over the barrier, something which is much needed when you have a situation where people have strong incentives to cross the border illegally.

Context is important. Try again

You're gonna need to elaborate on this. There's nothing wrong with barbed wire on a border.
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« Reply #56 on: February 17, 2024, 03:00:12 PM »

Supporting barbed wire barriers makes you a sociopath? Barbed wire is a very standard part of border barriers around the world, including some points of the northern border. It's also used in mundane civilian applications such as airports and industrial facilities. The point is to discourage people from climbing over the barrier, something which is much needed when you have a situation where people have strong incentives to cross the border illegally.

Context is important. Try again

You're gonna need to elaborate on this. There's nothing wrong with barbed wire on a border.

…. It maims people???
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« Reply #57 on: February 17, 2024, 03:08:19 PM »

Supporting barbed wire barriers makes you a sociopath? Barbed wire is a very standard part of border barriers around the world, including some points of the northern border. It's also used in mundane civilian applications such as airports and industrial facilities. The point is to discourage people from climbing over the barrier, something which is much needed when you have a situation where people have strong incentives to cross the border illegally.

Context is important. Try again

You're gonna need to elaborate on this. There's nothing wrong with barbed wire on a border.

…. It maims people???

So why have I not been seeing crocodile tears about barbed wire on our border with Canada from red avs this entire time?
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« Reply #58 on: February 17, 2024, 03:11:24 PM »

Supporting barbed wire barriers makes you a sociopath? Barbed wire is a very standard part of border barriers around the world, including some points of the northern border. It's also used in mundane civilian applications such as airports and industrial facilities. The point is to discourage people from climbing over the barrier, something which is much needed when you have a situation where people have strong incentives to cross the border illegally.

Context is important. Try again

You're gonna need to elaborate on this. There's nothing wrong with barbed wire on a border.

…. It maims people???
Pro tip: don’t climb through it.
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« Reply #59 on: February 17, 2024, 03:54:42 PM »

This is so wrong. Someone could get hurt if they try doing something they know is illegal.

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« Reply #60 on: February 17, 2024, 04:10:54 PM »

This is so wrong. Someone could get hurt if they try doing something they know is illegal.



There’s a big difference between having a literal doorway with barb wire on top and having floating balls of bar wire in the middle of a river that are near impossible to avoid

And God’s for sake do you think an attempted crime makes extrajudicial corporal punishment okay?
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« Reply #61 on: February 17, 2024, 05:19:16 PM »

Supporting barbed wire barriers makes you a sociopath? Barbed wire is a very standard part of border barriers around the world, including some points of the northern border. It's also used in mundane civilian applications such as airports and industrial facilities. The point is to discourage people from climbing over the barrier, something which is much needed when you have a situation where people have strong incentives to cross the border illegally.

Context is important. Try again

You're gonna need to elaborate on this. There's nothing wrong with barbed wire on a border.

…. It maims people???
Pro tip: don’t climb through it.

Pro-tip: When the President is pretty much giving you 90% of what you want, just freaking take it.
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« Reply #62 on: February 17, 2024, 05:31:27 PM »

Supporting barbed wire barriers makes you a sociopath? Barbed wire is a very standard part of border barriers around the world, including some points of the northern border. It's also used in mundane civilian applications such as airports and industrial facilities. The point is to discourage people from climbing over the barrier, something which is much needed when you have a situation where people have strong incentives to cross the border illegally.

Context is important. Try again

You're gonna need to elaborate on this. There's nothing wrong with barbed wire on a border.

…. It maims people???
Pro tip: don’t climb through it.

Pro-tip: When the President is pretty much giving you 90% of what you want, just freaking take it.
The other side does not get to define what we want before making an offer. This bill was a ridiculous cave-in. So it gives Biden new powers that he will choose not to use anyway? That's it? Sorry, but that doesn't really pass muster.
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« Reply #63 on: February 17, 2024, 05:39:25 PM »

Supporting barbed wire barriers makes you a sociopath? Barbed wire is a very standard part of border barriers around the world, including some points of the northern border. It's also used in mundane civilian applications such as airports and industrial facilities. The point is to discourage people from climbing over the barrier, something which is much needed when you have a situation where people have strong incentives to cross the border illegally.

Context is important. Try again

You're gonna need to elaborate on this. There's nothing wrong with barbed wire on a border.

…. It maims people???
Pro tip: don’t climb through it.

Pro-tip: When the President is pretty much giving you 90% of what you want, just freaking take it.

Yea but what they really want it to kill immigrants and that’s their final offer
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« Reply #64 on: February 17, 2024, 06:11:08 PM »


Biden is the one asking congress to put tougher border legislation on his desk to sign. Republicans are the ones refusing to vote for it.
You think this Potemkin legislation will do anything? Seriously?
… what do you want then? Snipers in Eagle Pass?
No, some barbed wire and shipping containers would suffice.

Ah I see, maiming is acceptable but not murder

They will only be maimed if they willfully attempt to break the law.  It's not a surprise; the people trying to illegally enter America know it's there.  If they want to chance it, that's on them, not on us.

We are under no obligation to be welcoming to people illegally trying to come here, whether it be by flat-out crashing the border, or by "insufficient" asylum claims.  None.  And Sanchez is entirely right; the proposed bill IS Potemkin Legislation.  New Laws are not what is needed; willingness to enforce the present law is.  In truth, whenever a politician begins to speak about "our broken immigration system", they are lying.  If we (A) actually enforced immigration laws and (B) projected the firm willingness to enforce immigration laws, we would not be at the place we are at on this issue, and America would be better off.
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« Reply #65 on: February 17, 2024, 06:26:01 PM »

Supporting barbed wire barriers makes you a sociopath? Barbed wire is a very standard part of border barriers around the world, including some points of the northern border. It's also used in mundane civilian applications such as airports and industrial facilities. The point is to discourage people from climbing over the barrier, something which is much needed when you have a situation where people have strong incentives to cross the border illegally.

Context is important. Try again

You're gonna need to elaborate on this. There's nothing wrong with barbed wire on a border.

…. It maims people???
Pro tip: don’t climb through it.

Pro-tip: When the President is pretty much giving you 90% of what you want, just freaking take it.
The other side does not get to define what we want before making an offer. This bill was a ridiculous cave-in. So it gives Biden new powers that he will choose not to use anyway? That's it? Sorry, but that doesn't really pass muster.

You literally got exactly what you wanted. Your bluff wad called. Now you're taking the ball and going home.

Your side is having a temper tantrum because they got outplayed.
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« Reply #66 on: February 17, 2024, 07:36:08 PM »

This is so wrong. Someone could get hurt if they try doing something they know is illegal.



There’s a big difference between having a literal doorway with barb wire on top and having floating balls of bar wire in the middle of a river that are near impossible to avoid

And God’s for sake do you think an attempted crime makes extrajudicial corporal punishment okay?

Bolded applies just as much if someone without authorization tries to hop the fence into Canada in that pic and gets hurt on the barbed wire. I'm sure you only have access to the doorway if you have appropriate authorization. So why am I not hearing any whining about the racist, xenophobic, fascist Canadians looking for any excuse to maim immigrants?

This is so stupid, there are so many things to criticize about the hawkish Republican immigration mindset putting up some barbed wire in select border areas where crossings are common is not one of them. It's like you guys are in a contest to see who can be more detached from reality.
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« Reply #67 on: February 18, 2024, 03:55:19 AM »

Supporting barbed wire barriers makes you a sociopath? Barbed wire is a very standard part of border barriers around the world, including some points of the northern border. It's also used in mundane civilian applications such as airports and industrial facilities. The point is to discourage people from climbing over the barrier, something which is much needed when you have a situation where people have strong incentives to cross the border illegally.

Context is important. Try again

You're gonna need to elaborate on this. There's nothing wrong with barbed wire on a border.

…. It maims people???
Pro tip: don’t climb through it.

Pro-tip: When the President is pretty much giving you 90% of what you want, just freaking take it.

Yea but what they really want it to kill immigrants and that’s their final offer
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« Reply #68 on: February 18, 2024, 03:56:06 AM »

Supporting barbed wire barriers makes you a sociopath? Barbed wire is a very standard part of border barriers around the world, including some points of the northern border. It's also used in mundane civilian applications such as airports and industrial facilities. The point is to discourage people from climbing over the barrier, something which is much needed when you have a situation where people have strong incentives to cross the border illegally.

Context is important. Try again

You're gonna need to elaborate on this. There's nothing wrong with barbed wire on a border.

…. It maims people???
Pro tip: don’t climb through it.

Pro-tip: When the President is pretty much giving you 90% of what you want, just freaking take it.
The other side does not get to define what we want before making an offer. This bill was a ridiculous cave-in. So it gives Biden new powers that he will choose not to use anyway? That's it? Sorry, but that doesn't really pass muster.

Good of you to admit that the Republican position on this is nothing more than naked Republican partisan politics and not about actually addressing the Border issue. Thanks for a rare moment of honesty
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« Reply #69 on: February 18, 2024, 08:26:49 AM »

Supporting barbed wire barriers makes you a sociopath? Barbed wire is a very standard part of border barriers around the world, including some points of the northern border. It's also used in mundane civilian applications such as airports and industrial facilities. The point is to discourage people from climbing over the barrier, something which is much needed when you have a situation where people have strong incentives to cross the border illegally.

Context is important. Try again

You're gonna need to elaborate on this. There's nothing wrong with barbed wire on a border.

…. It maims people???
Pro tip: don’t climb through it.

Pro-tip: When the President is pretty much giving you 90% of what you want, just freaking take it.
The other side does not get to define what we want before making an offer. This bill was a ridiculous cave-in. So it gives Biden new powers that he will choose not to use anyway? That's it? Sorry, but that doesn't really pass muster.

Good of you to admit that the Republican position on this is nothing more than naked Republican partisan politics and not about actually addressing the Border issue. Thanks for a rare moment of honesty

There is concern that the passage of this bill (which does not fix anything) will bind future Presidents from effectively enforcing our immigration laws. 

Joe Biden could have continued to build "The Wall".  There was no reason not to.  He didn't.  Joe Biden could have continued the policy of asylum seekers remaining in Mexico.  He didn't.  Those were simple measures that (A) controlled the flow of illegal immigration into the US and (B) did not require new legislation or appropriations. 

Joe Biden stood down on enforcing our immigration laws.  He's done it for so long that there will be a lasting negative impact on OUR country.  And it's OUR country; the illegal aliens do not have a stake in our country, and that message should be sent unremittingly.  Joe Biden, however, sent another message; the message that we would, in effect, not enforce our own laws.

Mr. Mayorkas, I believe, would have done anything his President told him to do.  If he had any honor, he would resign.  I find the idea of a career Law Enforcement professional simply refusing to enforce the laws on immigration to be totally unacceptable.  If Mayorkas had resigned at any point prior to this I would have a degree of respect for him.  That he's joining with Joe Biden in nonfeasance of our laws is something else.  He should never work in law enforcement again.
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« Reply #70 on: February 18, 2024, 08:34:42 AM »

Mr. Mayorkas, I believe, would have done anything his President told him to do.  If he had any honor, he would resign.  I find the idea of a career Law Enforcement professional simply refusing to enforce the laws on immigration to be totally unacceptable.  If Mayorkas had resigned at any point prior to this I would have a degree of respect for him.  That he's joining with Joe Biden in nonfeasance of our laws is something else.  He should never work in law enforcement again.

This is blatant Republican projection. (see: Republican lawmakers bending the knee to their orange god and kissing his feet, even when it involves breaking laws to please him)
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« Reply #71 on: March 23, 2024, 10:07:44 AM »

The Senate is still waiting on the House to deliver the articles, which Johnson said a couple weeks ago that the House plans to send over only once Congress has finally wrapped up appropriations (which they're about to as soon as Biden signs H.R. 2882), so the rules (presumably incl. an immediate vote for dismissal without trial) are being prepared with imminence:

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« Reply #72 on: March 23, 2024, 11:33:25 AM »

They need to fast track tf out of this thing.
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« Reply #73 on: March 23, 2024, 12:02:48 PM »

Republicans are right about this. The border crisis is a manufactured crisis by the Democrats and Mayorkas is responsible.
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« Reply #74 on: March 23, 2024, 02:15:33 PM »

Yeah well Republicans also criticized the first Trump impeachment on the basis that there was no actual crime, and I am hard pressed to see what the actual crime is here.
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