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« Reply #25 on: February 14, 2024, 08:23:19 AM »

Good to see Republicans addressing our most important problems. Let's reject the border deal but impeach the HS Director for not fixing the border.

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« Reply #26 on: February 14, 2024, 09:40:22 AM »

Pointless political clownshow. Senate should immediately reject this nonsense. The GOP had the chance to pass a major border security bill and backed off. Biden and Schumer called their bluff.

Btw, it would be nice for mods to merge this thread Tekken Guy's: https://talkelections.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=582372.0
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« Reply #27 on: February 14, 2024, 10:08:18 AM »

House Rs could've spent this time negotiating a border deal to their liking with the Democrats but instead they chose to use it all on a sham impeachment they know isn't going to result in Mayorkas' removal. Really shows how much they truly care about the whole border "crisis".
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« Reply #28 on: February 14, 2024, 10:13:52 AM »

House Rs could've spent this time negotiating a border deal to their liking with the Democrats but instead they chose to use it all on a sham impeachment they know isn't going to result in Mayorkas' removal. Really shows how much they truly care about the whole border "crisis".

The GOP is just a joke as political force.
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« Reply #29 on: February 14, 2024, 10:23:32 AM »

What's the alternative to Mayorkas outside other democrat? Do republicans want to force their bill to be passed by the Senate or what?
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« Reply #30 on: February 14, 2024, 10:39:01 AM »

What's the alternative to Mayorkas outside other democrat? Do republicans want to force their bill to be passed by the Senate or what?

They just want to keep this political issue in the news and embarrass Biden because they believe Trump benefits from that. The GOP isn't serious about actually doing something on substance. It's all talk, no action.
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« Reply #31 on: February 14, 2024, 11:09:50 AM »

Makes it more likely after yesterday, that Rs lose the H
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« Reply #32 on: February 14, 2024, 11:45:39 AM »

This is a big win because republicans have always avoided making difficult decisions that hold people accountable. Dems, however, use it as a political weapon. Two very contrasting positions. Maybe this impeachment will at least embolden republicans to be more active at going after corruption.

In the words of Solzhenitsyn, “If only it were all so simple! If only there were evil people somewhere insidiously committing evil deeds, and it were necessary only to separate them from the rest of us and destroy them. But the line dividing good and evil cuts through the heart of every human being. And who is willing to destroy a piece of his own heart?”
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« Reply #33 on: February 14, 2024, 12:31:02 PM »

This is a big win because republicans have always avoided making difficult decisions that hold people accountable. Dems, however, use it as a political weapon. Two very contrasting positions. Maybe this impeachment will at least embolden republicans to be more active at going after corruption.
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« Reply #34 on: February 14, 2024, 12:40:53 PM »

Deeply unserious country.

If impeachment is being haphazardly used as a political bludgeon rather than the extremely serious tool of last resort it was intended, it’s just reason number 9000 we need to revise the Constitution.

It’s clearly as it is being abused by conservatives who have found ways around it and to abuse it, defeating its entire purpose.
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« Reply #35 on: February 14, 2024, 12:46:20 PM »

Impeachments tend to backfire on the impeaching party and I don't see why this would be different. Mayorkas is inept and probably supports open borders, but ineptness and bad policy choices are not good enough reason to impeach.
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« Reply #36 on: February 14, 2024, 01:23:57 PM »

This is a big win because republicans have always avoided making difficult decisions that hold people accountable. Dems, however, use it as a political weapon. Two very contrasting positions. Maybe this impeachment will at least embolden republicans to be more active at going after corruption.

In the words of Solzhenitsyn, “If only it were all so simple! If only there were evil people somewhere insidiously committing evil deeds, and it were necessary only to separate them from the rest of us and destroy them. But the line dividing good and evil cuts through the heart of every human being. And who is willing to destroy a piece of his own heart?”

So when Trump gets back in, he should be impeached for telling congressional Republicans to not accept the strong border deal that Biden is offering? Since going against fixing the border crisis is impeachable? He also didn't build the wall despite promising to.
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« Reply #37 on: February 14, 2024, 01:48:00 PM »

Deeply unserious country.

If impeachment is being haphazardly used as a political bludgeon rather than the extremely serious tool of last resort it was intended, it’s just reason number 9000 we need to revise the Constitution.

It’s clearly as it is being abused by conservatives who have found ways around it and to abuse it, defeating its entire purpose.

Start with abolishing the Second Amendment
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« Reply #38 on: February 14, 2024, 01:58:24 PM »

@mods can we merge the two mayorkas impeached threads?

Flats posted his thread apparently seconds before mine. Mine was getting more traction yesterday, but Yoda quote tweeting BTRD early in the morning pushed Flats’ thread back atop and it’s been the main source of discussion since.
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« Reply #39 on: February 14, 2024, 02:28:11 PM »

Lmao, what an unserious party Republicans are.

I feel like they're massively overreaching with their even further shrunk majority and their entire unwillingness to do something about the border at Trump's order may very well backfire in November. Biden can now claim that it's their open border and use Truman's 1948 playbook by offering to give them a major policy win.
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« Reply #40 on: February 14, 2024, 02:51:46 PM »

Impeachments tend to backfire on the impeaching party and I don't see why this would be different. Mayorkas is inept and probably supports open borders, but ineptness and bad policy choices are not good enough reason to impeach.

Exactly this. Republicans are ceding the huge advantage they have on the issue of immigration by pursuing this rather than attempting to reach any deal regarding border security. For whatever CNN's worth, there were clearly a few people not voting for the party in New York's special because of it.
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« Reply #41 on: February 14, 2024, 03:28:39 PM »

Has Mayorkas actually done anything to exasperate immigration issues on his own?
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« Reply #42 on: February 14, 2024, 03:39:56 PM »

I don't think it worked. I saw a Mexican today.
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« Reply #43 on: February 14, 2024, 04:29:10 PM »

Has Mayorkas actually done anything to exasperate immigration issues on his own?

He has willfully failed to simply not enforce the law. 

I would have respect for Mayorkas if he had testified truthfully before Congress and resigned.  I don't think impeachment accomplishes much; the border is all Biden's fault, but Mayorkas would resign if he had any integrity.
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« Reply #44 on: February 14, 2024, 06:15:53 PM »


Biden is the one asking congress to put tougher border legislation on his desk to sign. Republicans are the ones refusing to vote for it.
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« Reply #45 on: February 14, 2024, 10:10:09 PM »


Biden is the one asking congress to put tougher border legislation on his desk to sign. Republicans are the ones refusing to vote for it.

Because the "Border Legislation" does not mandate nor fund the sort of enforcement mechanisms that actually stop illegal immigrants from entering America.  It sets a limit of 8k illegal entries per day before the border can be closed.  In that respect, it makes it worse because it hamstrings future Presidents that would seriously attempt to enforce our existing laws.
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« Reply #46 on: February 14, 2024, 10:25:54 PM »


Biden is the one asking congress to put tougher border legislation on his desk to sign. Republicans are the ones refusing to vote for it.
You think this Potemkin legislation will do anything? Seriously?
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« Reply #47 on: February 15, 2024, 12:08:32 AM »


Biden is the one asking congress to put tougher border legislation on his desk to sign. Republicans are the ones refusing to vote for it.
You think this Potemkin legislation will do anything? Seriously?
… what do you want then? Snipers in Eagle Pass?
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« Reply #48 on: February 15, 2024, 12:10:39 PM »


Biden is the one asking congress to put tougher border legislation on his desk to sign. Republicans are the ones refusing to vote for it.
You think this Potemkin legislation will do anything? Seriously?
… what do you want then? Snipers in Eagle Pass?
No, some barbed wire and shipping containers would suffice.
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« Reply #49 on: February 15, 2024, 07:09:58 PM »


Biden is the one asking congress to put tougher border legislation on his desk to sign. Republicans are the ones refusing to vote for it.
You think this Potemkin legislation will do anything? Seriously?
… what do you want then? Snipers in Eagle Pass?
No, some barbed wire and shipping containers would suffice.

Ah I see, maiming is acceptable but not murder
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