1864 (Lincoln's re-election) was closer than 2008
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« on: February 08, 2024, 02:42:20 AM »

1864 is one of the most underdiscussed elections imo. It is assumed to be a Lincoln Landslide considering he only lost 3 states. However, what if I told you Lincoln came closer to losing re-election than Barack Obama did in 2008? The tipping point state ended up being Illinois, the home state of Lincoln, which he only carried by 8.8% which was fairly weak. In 2008, Obama carried the Colorado by 9% which ended up being the tipping point. Abraham Lincoln, argued as the best president of all time, came closer to losing than Barack Obama in 2008.
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« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2024, 03:16:32 AM »

In 1864, the tipping point state margin was narrower than the NPV, whereas in 2008, it was wider. If that's your point, fine. It should also be noted that if the NPV is a blowout, the tipping point state margin being narrower than the NPV is usually not very relevant (the most extreme example being 1836, with the tipping point state margin being 12 points narrower than the NPV).
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« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2024, 01:42:06 PM »

In 1864, the tipping point state margin was narrower than the NPV, whereas in 2008, it was wider. If that's your point, fine. It should also be noted that if the NPV is a blowout, the tipping point state margin being narrower than the NPV is usually not very relevant (the most extreme example being 1836, with the tipping point state margin being 12 points narrower than the NPV).
Honestly has nothing to do with the NPV, I was just sharing that the tipping point was closer in 1864 than 2008.
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