Did Biden win the Irish Catholic vote?

[King of Kensington]

Did Biden win his fellow Irish Catholics?  Note that about one sixth live in New England (vs. 8% of all with Irish ancestry).  

[Stranger in a strange land]

Did Biden win his fellow Irish Catholics?  Note that about one sixth live in New England (vs. 8% of all with Irish ancestry).  

Per Gallup, Biden won the Catholic vote 52/47. Looking at the Wisconsin map, he probably lost German Catholics, and he likely won Latino Catholics (though only about 55% of US Latinos are Catholic according to Pew). Italian, Polish, and other Catholics were traditionally a Democratic voting block, but they've become much more Republican in recent years. So my guess is that Biden won Irish Catholics but not overwhelmingly. Probably something like 55/45.

[mileslunn]

Close to evenly split but might have as not just lots in New England but even in other states tend to be in more Democrat areas be in San Francisco Bay Area, Chicago metro area, Philadelphia metro area where Democrats did win white vote. 

[Pres Mike]

Probably not

[TransfemmeGoreVidal]

As an Irish-Catholic based on widespread anecdotal experience I’m inclined to say yes. I think Irish-Catholics are slightly more D leaning than other white Catholics for cultural and historic reasons.

[King of Kensington]

Defining an "Irish American" is no easy task.  Irish American communities and organizations are for the most part Catholic.  But of the 40 million or so Americans Protestants outnumber Catholics.  A distinction is often made between the earlier Protestant Scotch-Irish who immigrated earlier and the Catholic Irish who dominated immigration from the mid-19th century onward - treated often as two separate ethnic groups.  The latter are what most have in mind when the term is used (since the Protestants assimilated easily into - or were always a part of - the Anglo Protestant majority).  But not all the Protestants are from the colonial or Scotch-Irish stock.  A lot of Irish Catholics outside the Northeast either converted or married WASPs and raised children Protestant.

Also large numbers of Irish Americans are religious nones now (Massachusetts now is one of the most secular states).  

[kwabbit]

I think so. Identifying as Irish is common for the generic suburban White with mixed ancestry. In my experience, Protestant communities in the Northeast are not as established as Catholic ones and if someone is 50% English and 50% Irish they will say they are Irish and if they attend church it will be a Catholic one. This type is also very educated and as a whole swung heavily to Democrats recently. This isn't all of the Irish vote, but it's a good percentage in my experience.

[King of Kensington]

Irish ancestry by religion:

US  Protestant 41%, Catholic 28%, none 22%
Northeast  Catholic 51%, Protestant 15%, none 29%
Midwest  Protestant 44%, Catholic 30%, none 20%
South  Protestant 61%, Catholic 16%, none 14%
West  Protestant 39%, Catholic 21%, none 31%

https://talkelections.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=580089.0

[King of Kensington]

In the 1970s when studies of white ethnic groups was in vogue (and it was easier to separate out ethnic groups than now), Irish Catholics were found to have a higher level of educational attainment than white Protestants as well as Italian and Slavic Americans (the latter still being a generation or two removed from the immigrant experience).  At this point Irish Catholics had been in the US for a long time, and furthermore it was probably just good fortune they disproportionately lived in New England and the Northeast.  I think by the 1920s, Irish Catholics were already at par with WASPs more or less.  They haven't been a downtrodden group for a long time.

[King of Kensington]

A bit dated, but 46% of Irish Americans identified as Democrats a decade ago, and 53% in the Northeast where a majority are Catholic.

https://talkelections.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=580349.0

[King of Kensington]

I think so. Identifying as Irish is common for the generic suburban White with mixed ancestry. In my experience, Protestant communities in the Northeast are not as established as Catholic ones and if someone is 50% English and 50% Irish they will say they are Irish and if they attend church it will be a Catholic one. This type is also very educated and as a whole swung heavily to Democrats recently. This isn't all of the Irish vote, but it's a good percentage in my experience.

Irish seems to be the most common reported ancestry in UMC and establishmentarian suburbs in the NYC region.  From the 2020 census:

Larchmont

Irish  1,566  23.6%
English  1,065  16.1% 
German  976  14.7%
Italian  893  13.5%

Rye

Irish 4,199 25.3%
English 2,809 16.9%
Italian 2,792 16.8%
German 2,474 14.9%

Glen Ridge

Irish 2,102 27.9%
German 1,554 20.6%
Italian 1,413 18.8%
English 1,345 17.9%

Summit

Irish 4,874 21.5%
Italian 3,514 15.5%
German 3,405 15%
English 3,205 14.1%

Westfield

Irish 7,659 24.9%
Italian 6,660 21.7%
German 5,029 16.4%
English 3,672 11.9%

[LabourJersey]

I think so. Identifying as Irish is common for the generic suburban White with mixed ancestry. In my experience, Protestant communities in the Northeast are not as established as Catholic ones and if someone is 50% English and 50% Irish they will say they are Irish and if they attend church it will be a Catholic one. This type is also very educated and as a whole swung heavily to Democrats recently. This isn't all of the Irish vote, but it's a good percentage in my experience.

Irish seems to be the most common reported ancestry in UMC and establishmentarian suburbs in the NYC region.  From the 2020 census:

Larchmont

Irish  1,566  23.6%
English  1,065  16.1% 
German  976  14.7%
Italian  893  13.5%

Rye

Irish 4,199 25.3%
English 2,809 16.9%
Italian 2,792 16.8%
German 2,474 14.9%

Glen Ridge

Irish 2,102 27.9%
German 1,554 20.6%
Italian 1,413 18.8%
English 1,345 17.9%

Summit

Irish 4,874 21.5%
Italian 3,514 15.5%
German 3,405 15%
English 3,205 14.1%

Westfield

Irish 7,659 24.9%
Italian 6,660 21.7%
German 5,029 16.4%
English 3,672 11.9%

Westfield is one-quarter Irish? I genuinely never would have expected that.

The stereotype of Westfield is that its white population is made up of three categories: WASPs, Italians, and Jews.

But then again the Irish have intermarried WASPs and Italians so much I guess it makes sense.

[TDAS04]

Well, his opponent was an orange man, so…

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

Did Biden win his fellow Irish Catholics?  Note that about one sixth live in New England (vs. 8% of all with Irish ancestry).  

Per Gallup, Biden won the Catholic vote 52/47. Looking at the Wisconsin map, he probably lost German Catholics, and he likely won Latino Catholics (though only about 55% of US Latinos are Catholic according to Pew). Italian, Polish, and other Catholics were traditionally a Democratic voting block, but they've become much more Republican in recent years. So my guess is that Biden won Irish Catholics but not overwhelmingly. Probably something like 55/45.

Many Italian Catholics have had a long tradition of Republican going back nearly a century. German Catholics are quite Republican indeed, probably as much as German Protestants. I agree that Irish Catholics most likely voted Biden. But probably not if you only include those who attend mass frequently.

[Joe McCarthy Was Right]

White Catholics voted 56-44 for Trump as per exit polls.

[ReaganLimbaugh]

hahaha, no

[MyLifeIsYours]

White Catholics are in the bag for Trump. They have to make up the majority of his base in states such as New York. Irish Catholics are only marginally less Republican than Italians, the other major Catholic demographic with a presence in the Northeast.