Conservatives angry at Airline CEO focusing on DEI policies implying “too many” White men in industr

[AGA]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/travel/news/conservatives-angry-at-airline-ceo-focusing-on-dei-policies-implying-too-many-white-men-in-industry/ar-AA1mZNsp

Recently, a United Airlines CEO states that they are focused on diversity,equity and inclusion. However, conservatives view this as something negative, citing that DEI tends to focus on someone’s racial background rather than their qualifications. However, liberals on the other hand believe that those chosen are just as qualified.

The Daily Wire calls it the “DEI rot” in the airline industry. A United Airlines Boeing 777 narrowly avoided disaster after a miscommunication between pilots led to a dangerous situation during takeoff. The incident, kept quiet for over two months, was finally disclosed in February.

[Born to Slay. Forced to Work.]

If any industry needs some diversifying its pilots. 80-90% or pilots are men.

[DrScholl]

This is racist, misogynistic logic. The assumption that diversity means hiring anyone off the street is extremely bigoted and intended to stir up violence against women and people of color.

[lfromnj]

If any industry needs some diversifying its pilots. 80-90% or pilots are men.

90% of truck drivers are men but we only need DEI in great jobs right ?

[AGA]

A lot of conservative anger over DEI has originated via X. Here's an example (not related to airlines though): https://twitter.com/EndWokeness/status/1747151784676614588

How much of this outrage is based on legitimate concerns?

[AGA]

On the other hand, Mark Cuban has been defending DEI:

https://twitter.com/mcuban/status/1742690628465484204

[Arizona Iced Tea]

If any industry needs some diversifying its pilots. 80-90% or pilots are men.

You'd be surprised, but significant amount of people aren't comfortable with a woman piloting the aircraft.

[MasterJedi]

If any industry needs some diversifying its pilots. 80-90% or pilots are men.

You'd be surprised, but significant amount of people aren't comfortable with a woman piloting the aircraft.

Who cares what those people think?

[Landslide Lyndon]

If any industry needs some diversifying its pilots. 80-90% or pilots are men.

You'd be surprised, but significant amount of people aren't comfortable with a woman piloting the aircraft.

And a significant amount of people aren't comfortable with interracial dating.
So what?

[Badger]

If any industry needs some diversifying its pilots. 80-90% or pilots are men.

You'd be surprised, but significant amount of people aren't comfortable with a woman piloting the aircraft.

Yes, these people called a$$holes.

Those same people would have concerns about black and Hispanic pilots too. Should we care in slightest?

Imagine thinking in the slightest that this is a valid argument.

[Ferguson97]

If any industry needs some diversifying its pilots. 80-90% or pilots are men.

You'd be surprised, but significant amount of people aren't comfortable with a woman piloting the aircraft.

Those people are called misogynists.

[DrScholl]

If any industry needs some diversifying its pilots. 80-90% or pilots are men.

You'd be surprised, but significant amount of people aren't comfortable with a woman piloting the aircraft.

Those people are why there is DEI training. And before you say anything, yes I know that even some women don't trust a woman flying a plane but they are ignorant as well.

[MaxQue]

If any industry needs some diversifying its pilots. 80-90% or pilots are men.

You'd be surprised, but significant amount of people aren't comfortable with a woman piloting the aircraft.

Well, those people are free to not board the plane and buy another ticket, hoping for the pilot to not be a woman.

[VBM]

If any industry needs some diversifying its pilots. 80-90% or pilots are men.

Not sure why the percentage of pilots that are men is at all relevant so long as the companies are hiring the most qualified applicants

[Badger]

If any industry needs some diversifying its pilots. 80-90% or pilots are men.

Not sure why the percentage of pilots that are men is at all relevant so long as the companies are hiring the most qualified applicants

Because unless One Believes there is some inherent inability of women to distract their brains from Cosmos and makeup and wrap them around the concept of controlled flight, and 80 to 90% ratio of male Pilots clearly indicates that ratio has as much or more to do with the good old boys network - literally - and other factors making the industry on well to women rather than truly getting the best and brightest for the job.

[John Dule]

If any industry needs some diversifying its pilots. 80-90% or pilots are men.

Not sure why the percentage of pilots that are men is at all relevant so long as the companies are hiring the most qualified applicants

Because unless One Believes there is some inherent inability of women to distract their brains from Cosmos and makeup and wrap them around the concept of controlled flight, and 80 to 90% ratio of male Pilots clearly indicates that ratio has as much or more to do with the good old boys network - literally - and other factors making the industry on well to women rather than truly getting the best and brightest for the job.

Or maybe it simply has to do with the fact that airline pilots have irregular schedules and strange hours, spend long periods of time away from their families, and that the nature of their work naturally attracts more men than women. You can talk all you like about equality in occupations, but being a pilot is particularly non-conducive to "having it all," which is still a concern for women today even if you would rather pretend otherwise. You're literally jumping to the worst possible conclusion for no reason whatsoever, based on the (incorrect) assumption that if we created a frictionless job market where everyone got the jobs they wanted, every occupation would be comprised of 50% men and 50% women. That is moronic.

I do not see anyone whining about how we need more female trash collectors, construction workers, truck drivers, car mechanics, or plumbers. Somehow it's only the gender gaps in the glamorous jobs that catch the eye of the woke mob. Instead of wasting time discussing this, we could be talking about how few men are employed in early childhood education-- the rare area of employment where having a more equal gender balance would create substantively better results rather than just being an affirmative action program.

[VBM]

If any industry needs some diversifying its pilots. 80-90% or pilots are men.

Not sure why the percentage of pilots that are men is at all relevant so long as the companies are hiring the most qualified applicants

Because unless One Believes there is some inherent inability of women to distract their brains from Cosmos and makeup and wrap them around the concept of controlled flight, and 80 to 90% ratio of male Pilots clearly indicates that ratio has as much or more to do with the good old boys network - literally - and other factors making the industry on well to women rather than truly getting the best and brightest for the job.

Or maybe women just aren’t as interested in becoming pilots for whatever reason

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

If any industry needs some diversifying its pilots. 80-90% or pilots are men.

Not sure why the percentage of pilots that are men is at all relevant so long as the companies are hiring the most qualified applicants

Because unless One Believes there is some inherent inability of women to distract their brains from Cosmos and makeup and wrap them around the concept of controlled flight, and 80 to 90% ratio of male Pilots clearly indicates that ratio has as much or more to do with the good old boys network - literally - and other factors making the industry on well to women rather than truly getting the best and brightest for the job.

Or maybe it simply has to do with the fact that airline pilots have irregular schedules and strange hours, spend long periods of time away from their families, and that the nature of their work naturally attracts more men than women. You can talk all you like about equality in occupations, but being a pilot is particularly non-conducive to "having it all," which is still a concern for women today even if you would rather pretend otherwise. You're literally jumping to the worst possible conclusion for no reason whatsoever, based on the (incorrect) assumption that if we created a frictionless job market where everyone got the jobs they wanted, every occupation would be comprised of 50% men and 50% women. That is moronic.

I do not see anyone whining about how we need more female trash collectors, construction workers, truck drivers, car mechanics, or plumbers. Somehow it's only the gender gaps in the glamorous jobs that catch the eye of the woke mob. Instead of wasting time discussing this, we could be talking about how few men are employed in early childhood education-- the rare area of employment where having a more equal gender balance would create substantively better results rather than just being an affirmative action program.

This x1000.
It's sad seeing people spew inane conspiracies about how certain industries are dominated by one gender or the other. "Old boys network" in airlines is the reason most pilots are men? Not gender differences in who tends to want to do what jobs? Let's call this for what it really is. PinkAnon.

[Born to Slay. Forced to Work.]

A lot of conservative anger over DEI has originated via X. Here's an example (not related to airlines though): https://twitter.com/EndWokeness/status/1747151784676614588

How much of this outrage is based on legitimate concerns?

LMAO this man just proved why the programs he’s ranting against exist.

“how DARE these radical commie liberals try to INCLUDE me! I will be racist and they can’t stop me!”

[Roll Roons]

If any industry needs some diversifying its pilots. 80-90% or pilots are men.

Not sure why the percentage of pilots that are men is at all relevant so long as the companies are hiring the most qualified applicants

Yeah, it seems like people have almost forgotten what a pilot is. You're not sitting in front of a computer staring at meaningless Excel sheets all day. You're being entrusted to steer a giant metal tube 30000 feet in the air with hundreds of people inside it. This is an industry where they need to hire the best of the best and it needs to be entirely meritocratic. If over 80% of them end up being white men, that's the way it is.

[dead0man]

AFAIK, United doesn't train new pilots, how in the hell can any policies they put in place change the ratio of men vs women if all they are doing is hiring the best available pilots?

[Ferguson97]

If any industry needs some diversifying its pilots. 80-90% or pilots are men.

Not sure why the percentage of pilots that are men is at all relevant so long as the companies are hiring the most qualified applicants

Yeah, it seems like people have almost forgotten what a pilot is. You're not sitting in front of a computer staring at meaningless Excel sheets all day. You're being entrusted to steer a giant metal tube 30000 feet in the air with hundreds of people inside it. This is an industry where they need to hire the best of the best and it needs to be entirely meritocratic. If over 80% of them end up being white men, that's the way it is.

...Okay, good. We agree. If you want a meritocratic system, then you should support leveling the playing field, removing bias, and support DEI initiatives.

[Born to Slay. Forced to Work.]

If any industry needs some diversifying its pilots. 80-90% or pilots are men.

Not sure why the percentage of pilots that are men is at all relevant so long as the companies are hiring the most qualified applicants

From a purely statistical standpoint that doesn’t hold water. No way 80% of pilots are men just because “they make the best pilots” or whatever.

[lfromnj]

If any industry needs some diversifying its pilots. 80-90% or pilots are men.

Not sure why the percentage of pilots that are men is at all relevant so long as the companies are hiring the most qualified applicants

Yeah, it seems like people have almost forgotten what a pilot is. You're not sitting in front of a computer staring at meaningless Excel sheets all day. You're being entrusted to steer a giant metal tube 30000 feet in the air with hundreds of people inside it. This is an industry where they need to hire the best of the best and it needs to be entirely meritocratic. If over 80% of them end up being white men, that's the way it is.

...Okay, good. We agree. If you want a meritocratic system, then you should support leveling the playing field, removing bias, and support DEI initiatives.

Do you support the same initatives for truck drivers? Mr Smith does so atleast he is consistent.

[Ferguson97]

If any industry needs some diversifying its pilots. 80-90% or pilots are men.

Not sure why the percentage of pilots that are men is at all relevant so long as the companies are hiring the most qualified applicants

Yeah, it seems like people have almost forgotten what a pilot is. You're not sitting in front of a computer staring at meaningless Excel sheets all day. You're being entrusted to steer a giant metal tube 30000 feet in the air with hundreds of people inside it. This is an industry where they need to hire the best of the best and it needs to be entirely meritocratic. If over 80% of them end up being white men, that's the way it is.

...Okay, good. We agree. If you want a meritocratic system, then you should support leveling the playing field, removing bias, and support DEI initiatives.

Do you support the same initatives for truck drivers? Mr Smith does so atleast he is consistent.

Why wouldn't I? DEI should be the standard in every industry.