Why does Ohio like Sherrod Brown when he votes like Elizabeth Warren?

[Cyrusman]

The guy is one of the most liberal senators around and OH is a state drifting further and further right?

Simple question, why do the voters of OH like him if he votes so differently than what they support at a presidential level?

[SnowLabrador]

It's the presentation.

[wnwnwn]

He campaings on economic issues, ignoring social/cultural ones. Also, he is more protectionist than the party on average.

[MT Treasurer]

vibes, trust, authenticity, identity, rhetoric & theatrics > "ideology"

[Fancyarcher]

Partially he represents the state well, and partially he's been up in favorable years for his party, as Ohio's red turn is only a recent thing.

[Fmr. Gov. NickG]

I remember I attended a presentation of his in 1999 when I was a congressional intern and Brown was a junior congressman. His entire message was labor union support with a focus on trade protectionism.

But it’s very cool that he’s been able to become such an important unabashed progressive voice from a reddish state.  He also wrote a very good book (Desk 88) that’s basically a history of progressivism in the US Senate, interspersed with personal anecdotes from his Senate experience (which for some reason really dwell on how much he hated Max Baucus).

[Senator Incitatus]

I remember I attended a presentation of his in 1999 when I was a congressional intern and Brown was a junior congressman. His entire message was labor union support with a focus on trade protectionism.

But it’s very cool that he’s been able to become such an important unabashed progressive voice from a reddish state.  He also wrote a very good book (Desk 88) that’s basically a history of progressivism in the US Senate, interspersed with personal anecdotes from his Senate experience (which for some reason really dwell on how much he hated Max Baucus).

Baucus is a free trade extremist, even for his era. He also sided with the Chamber of Commerce on a whole host of issues and did a lot to publicly undermine healthcare reform. In a saner political system, he and Brown wouldn't be in the same party.

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I remember I attended a presentation of his in 1999 when I was a congressional intern and Brown was a junior congressman. His entire message was labor union support with a focus on trade protectionism.

But it’s very cool that he’s been able to become such an important unabashed progressive voice from a reddish state.  He also wrote a very good book (Desk 88) that’s basically a history of progressivism in the US Senate, interspersed with personal anecdotes from his Senate experience (which for some reason really dwell on how much he hated Max Baucus).

Baucus is a free trade extremist, even for his era. He also sided with the Chamber of Commerce on a whole host of issues and did a lot to publicly undermine healthcare reform. In a saner political system, he and Brown wouldn't be in the same party.

Somehow his 2008 Republican opponent was significantly to his left.

[2016]

I think Sherrod Brown will lose in 2024. Obviously if Moreno is the Nominee it gets tougher for Republicans BUT when Ohio had a Senate Race during a Presidential Year it has always gone with the Presidential Candidate of that Party

Case in Point:

1992: Bill Clinton (D) WINS Ohio; John Glenn (D) gets re-elected
1996: No Senate Race
2000: George W. Bush (R) WINS Ohio; Mike DeWine (R) gets re-elected
2004: George W. Bush (R) WINS Ohio; George Voinovich (R) gets re-elected
2008: No Senate Race
2012: Barack Obama (D) WINS Ohio; Sherrod Brown (D) gets re-elected
2016: Donald Trump (R) WINS Ohio; Rob Portman (R) gets re-elected
2020: No Senate Race
2024:

Is this just a coincidence? I don't think so.

Florida for example has a similar pattern.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Ohio voted for Dennis Kunich and Vance win in 22 when DeWine was on the ballot 24 is more fav than 22 was

[President Johnson]

I remember I attended a presentation of his in 1999 when I was a congressional intern and Brown was a junior congressman. His entire message was labor union support with a focus on trade protectionism.

But it’s very cool that he’s been able to become such an important unabashed progressive voice from a reddish state.  He also wrote a very good book (Desk 88) that’s basically a history of progressivism in the US Senate, interspersed with personal anecdotes from his Senate experience (which for some reason really dwell on how much he hated Max Baucus).

Baucus is a free trade extremist, even for his era. He also sided with the Chamber of Commerce on a whole host of issues and did a lot to publicly undermine healthcare reform. In a saner political system, he and Brown wouldn't be in the same party.

Somehow his 2008 Republican opponent was significantly to his left.

Brown wasn't up in 2008. He was elected in 2006, reelected in 2012 and 2018.

[kingcharlesvii]

They're referring to Baucus' 2008 opponent, who also ran for Governor in 2002 as a Green

[Mr. Smith]

Ohio used to be more like Wisconsin rather than Indiana, by which I mean amiable to both ideological poles.

Also, like Tester, he lucked out with the years he's run in.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

There is 12 percent blk it's not radically R like Iowa

[Sir Mohamed]

vibes, trust, authenticity, identity, rhetoric & theatrics > "ideology"

This, ergo a local brand.

[Arizona Iced Tea]

It's just incumbency, it's the same way McCain would be favored to win re-election if he was alive and hypotheticaly running in 2024 even if Biden carried AZ by a large amount.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

52/48 318 DPrez and 218 DH for go TX, FL and WV

[Rjjr77]

The guy is one of the most liberal senators around and OH is a state drifting further and further right?

Simple question, why do the voters of OH like him if he votes so differently than what they support at a presidential level?

Hes been lucky with the election cycles he runs in, but hes also very good at constituent relations, and does travel the state and go to things

[Crumpets]

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[Horus]

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Marcy Kaptur would do even better than Sherrod. Gender is not relevant.

[Crumpets]

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Marcy Kaptur would do even better than Sherrod. Gender is not relevant.

It's not gender alone, but Kaptur isn't exactly Warren in terms of policy. It's much harder to win as an outspoken progressive woman everywhere - including Massachusetts - than as an outspoken progressive man, and that can be a difference maker in a state as close as Ohio has always been.

[Horus]

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Marcy Kaptur would do even better than Sherrod. Gender is not relevant.

It's not gender alone, but Kaptur isn't exactly Warren in terms of policy. It's much harder to win as an outspoken progressive woman everywhere - including Massachusetts - than as an outspoken progressive man, and that can be a difference maker in a state as close as Ohio has always been.

Sherrod may vote like Warren but he does not focus on the same issues.

Maybe Gretchen Whitmer would be a better example than Kaptur. She comes across as working class too and is very pro labor.

[Cyrusman]

It's just incumbency, it's the same way McCain would be favored to win re-election if he was alive and hypotheticaly running in 2024 even if Biden carried AZ by a large amount.

Yes, but McCain had WAY more in common with the politics of his state that Brown. McCain was seen as a moderate, compassionate Republican in a red leaning state. Brown is a very progressive Democrat in a state that has trended hard right for the last 8 years.

[Arizona Iced Tea]

It's just incumbency, it's the same way McCain would be favored to win re-election if he was alive and hypotheticaly running in 2024 even if Biden carried AZ by a large amount.

Yes, but McCain had WAY more in common with the politics of his state that Brown. McCain was seen as a moderate, compassionate Republican in a red leaning state. Brown is a very progressive Democrat in a state that has trended hard right for the last 8 years.

Most people don't care about voting record and Brown has 18 years of name rec via incumbency which is all most residents know him for. If it was an open seat, Brown would likely be favored to lose to virtually any R.

[Burke Bro]

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Marcy Kaptur would do even better than Sherrod. Gender is not relevant.

It's not gender alone, but Kaptur isn't exactly Warren in terms of policy. It's much harder to win as an outspoken progressive woman everywhere - including Massachusetts - than as an outspoken progressive man, and that can be a difference maker in a state as close as Ohio has always been.

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