“Civil War” movie trailer about Second American Civil War

[Alben Barkley]

I wonder how this movie is going to do considering it might be a little TOO topical these days.

[ProudModerate2]

Interesting.
A bit over the top, but it might to decently well when released.
I may see it.

[Progressive Pessimist]

One thing I'll agree with Ramaswamy on is that we are indeed in a "cold cultural civil war."

[Middle-aged Europe]

Considering that the federal government is fighting California and Texas in the movie I suppose this is an attempt to be as politically neutral as possible (unless Texas turned blue in that near-future scenario).

[Virginiá]

This is apparently the map of aligned states in this civil war story:



That about says it all imo

[The world will shine with light in our nightmare]

I definitely want to see this.

[vitoNova]

Interesting.
A bit over the top, but it might to decently well when released.
I may see it.

"Over-the-top" basically describes every single Hollywood film ever released after 1989.

[Progressive Pessimist]

This is apparently the map of aligned states in this civil war story:



That about says it all imo

"Florida Alliance" might be as bad as the Axis.

But for real, some of those "loyalist states" and "western forces" states would not be working together in reality.

[Sestak]

This is apparently the map of aligned states in this civil war story:



That about says it all imo

I think this map is quite reassuring, actually. It implies it’s some level of unique world building created to come up with whatever weird scenario this is, rather than some lazy attempt at adapting the current political climate to some sort of civil war story. Still, the clean focus on state lines seems a little weird.

[dead0man]

I think my eyes just rolled out of my head

[PSOL]

Are we really doing this again.

[dead0man]

Are we really doing this again.

was there another bid budget Hollywood modern American Civil War movie that I missed?

[Hindsight was 2020]

I wonder how this movie is going to do considering it might be a little TOO topical these days.

Fears of a 2nd civil war are overblown but an American version of the “Years of Lead” is under appreciated

[Red Velvet]

This is apparently the map of aligned states in this civil war story:



That about says it all imo

Wow, seems surprisingly realistic, I just don’t know how to explain “Western Forces” motive for separating.

Florida Alliance goes without saying - extremely symbolic that Florida represents it considering all the current political discourse about Florida.

California and Texas are big States that would be the closest that could maybe feel a separate individual identity of their own, getting independent and becoming countries of their own.

I am curious for the movie explanation of the background of “Western Forces” though. What do all these States have in common that would trigger them to unite in this fictional scenario?

[Red Velvet]

Considering that the federal government is fighting California and Texas in the movie I suppose this is an attempt to be as politically neutral as possible (unless Texas turned blue in that near-future scenario).

Yeah it sounds like they just included California in order to not be too on the nose and accused of political prejudice or bias.

Could maybe even be the same reasoning behind “Western Forces”.

Wagner Moura is also apparently the lead star for this film? Sign me the hell in.

[Middle-aged Europe]

This is apparently the map of aligned states in this civil war story:



That about says it all imo

"Florida Alliance" might be as bad as the Axis.

But for real, some of those "loyalist states" and "western forces" states would not be working together in reality.

It's quite possible that the Western Forces+TX+CA represent some form of regime headed by the Dear Leader Elon Musk, considering that Twitter/X and SpaceX are headquarted in California and Tesla is headquartered in Texas.

There also seems to have been some sort of falling out between him and DeSantis, hence the Florida Alliance.

[Middle-aged Europe]

Honestly, the TV show Jericho seemed to have a more realistic near-future civil war scenario back in the 2000s than this boondoggle:



In the wake of devastating nuclear attacks there is no consensus who the legitimate successor entity to the federal government is, with the country eventually splitting into an Eastern and a Western half, with Texas deciding to stay neutral (and hence remaining independent) for the time being.

The Western half is eventually revealed to have been evil all along, an attempt to form an authoritarian neo-con corporatocracy in the mold of Dick Cheney's wet dreams. And the main reason why there is a civil war in the first place is because the military-industrial conspiracy had actually been less successful in subuing the entire nation in a single stroke than orginally anticipated by the coup leaders. Which is also why Texas quickly decides to side with East as soon all of this becomes public.

It was also a very mid-2000ish scenario, with 9/11 as well as the then-recent Halliburton and Blackwater scandals clearly serving as inspiration.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

This is apparently the map of aligned states in this civil war story:



That about says it all imo

That map suggests some sort of cringe #BothSides nonsense

[LAKISYLVANIA]

A24 is probably the best movie studio out there at the moment (in the US at least). They produced Moonlight and several other hits, being quite popular. Director Garland also has directed Ex Machina and Annihilation before. And written the scenario for those movies as well as 28 Days Later, Sunshine and Never Let Me Go.

However... this might backfire a bit, given it's going to be quite controversial on release. It's not very subtle, but quite obvious what the hidden message will be.

[Red Velvet]

A24 is probably the best movie studio out there at the moment (in the US at least). They produced Moonlight and several other hits, being quite popular. Director Garland also has directed Ex Machina and Annihilation before. And written the scenario for those movies as well as 28 Days Later, Sunshine and Never Let Me Go.

However... this might backfire a bit, given it's going to be quite controversial on release. It's not very subtle, but quite obvious what the hidden message will be.

What?

[Virginiá]

I don't really get how the Loyalists maintain their western states. The logistics are terrible (I don't think there is even a direct rail link between Arizona/Nevada), Hawaii/Alaska are cut off from the Loyalists with no Loyalist continental US coastline/ports on the Pacific, and depending who is who's enemy (are they all fighting each other or is the color shading accurate?), that could be one massive pocket from Nebraska/Kansas-west for the Loyalists, which is extremely vulnerable to being cut off from the east.

Even if you come up with some alt-reality political system that supports that map, there are still basic problems with sustaining the economic and military potential of these regions..

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

How exactly are we occupied by the "Western Forces" but Wisconsin is Loyalist? And are the Western Forces left or right-wing?

[PSOL]

I wonder how this movie is going to do considering it might be a little TOO topical these days.

Fears of a 2nd civil war are overblown but an American version of the “Years of Lead” is under appreciated

If there’s going to be mass civil unrest, it’s going to be a civil war. We already have “Years of Lead” with the massive gang violence problem across the country.

There’s really no possibility of an inter-bourgeois conflict in the United States like the American Civil War, any such possibility was openly dashed by the main realtor’s association when Trump tried to overthrow the US presidency. Any sort of opposition among small businessmen to the likes of Amazon, Apple, Microsoft, or Google has been proven as impossible because the shopkeepers hate their workers more than their existential threats. A worker’s uprising in the United States is practically a nonstarter unless the government loses a conventional war.

Mass political strife turning violent is impossible for the time being. Unless there’s war with china that goes south, I wouldn’t even put much thought into it.

[LAKISYLVANIA]

A24 is probably the best movie studio out there at the moment (in the US at least). They produced Moonlight and several other hits, being quite popular. Director Garland also has directed Ex Machina and Annihilation before. And written the scenario for those movies as well as 28 Days Later, Sunshine and Never Let Me Go.

However... this might backfire a bit, given it's going to be quite controversial on release. It's not very subtle, but quite obvious what the hidden message will be.

What?

Allegory/metaphor of current polarisation in US political landscape

[Nhoj]

I don't really get how the Loyalists maintain their western states. The logistics are terrible (I don't think there is even a direct rail link between Arizona/Nevada), Hawaii/Alaska are cut off from the Loyalists with no Loyalist continental US coastline/ports on the Pacific, and depending who is who's enemy (are they all fighting each other or is the color shading accurate?), that could be one massive pocket from Nebraska/Kansas-west for the Loyalists, which is extremely vulnerable to being cut off from the east.

Even if you come up with some alt-reality political system that supports that map, there are still basic problems with sustaining the economic and military potential of these regions..

Colorado really should be the cutoff yes, since they could run supply lines from Kansas/neb to Denver at least. AZ/NV make zero sense.  I dont have a problem with Alaska and Hawaii since that could just be from the pacific fleet forces in hawaii staying loyalist, Alaska's large military installations and isolation would also work in favor of a loyalist faction holding strong.  In theory a DC led government has more international legitimacy as well.