Would you sacrifice your child like Abraham intended to?

[VBM]

If God commanded you to sacrifice your child, would you do it? If you’re childless and feel you can’t properly answer the question because of that, pretend like God asked you to sacrifice whoever is dearest to you.

[°Leprechaun]

What a horrible idea. I will be the first to admit, that there are parts of the Bible that are ok.
There are also horrible things in the Bible.
In the story of Abraham, God later stops Abraham from killing his son, which makes the story seem ok, perhaps, to those who take the Bible seriously. Still, letting Abraham think that he will have to kill his son, because God wants him to, is pretty disgusting.

More people need to speak out against the Bible, although doing so isn't always easy, and will get you criticized by most Christians who take their religion seriously.

How can Christians defend their faith without doing a lot of cherry-picking?

I realize that many Christians consider themselves religious liberals, but what criterion is there to say what is true and what is not true in the Bible?

Traditionally, it was heresy to reject any parts of the Bible, now it is happening more and more

[Mr. Smith]

Not in that specific context, but in a Donner Party situation, I  don't know anymore.

[PSOL]

Abraham's god clearly forbade child sacrifice forever when he did that example.

I am never going to kill any son for anything but for mercy, and even then I swore off children when I was very young because I would never let them or I suffer in this world.

[Attorney General, Senator-Elect, & Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

If it was truly clear that it was God I was hearing from and not Satan or my own thoughts, Yes.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

No the cave man whom were the Jews believed in self sacrifice to the Gods it's a different day and age now

[Georg Ebner]

At Alpha: yes, at Omega: no.

The real skándalon was, that HE had promised for this child the brightest future and then a rude selfContraDiction.
So, can GOD contradict HIMself? For Abraham (and Islam, which went back to this stage) obviously: Yes, HE can.
Since the tautoLogy towards MOSE (Ex.3,14) we Jews&Christians can believe, what the others must believe in daily life, but have no reason for: That the order in - but not from - this tohuwabohu is in some way senseful. Since CHRIST we even know, that HE is well-minded (cf. 1.John1,5;4,8). But the way of occidental pseudo/ex-Christian philoSophers since Scholasticism to take for "natural" and "normal", "rational" and "real", what is only graciously granted to us by HIM*, has ended in unprecedented cataStrophies: modern massMurders (Jews, bourgeoisie, unBorn, elderly); people sacrificing any dignity, beauty, character just for some money; areas like PRC or Africa on the rise, where this reLict of JudaeoChristian tradition does not even exist as a "humanist" farce.

*No preChristian thinker had ever taught of "human rights" or "human dignity" - a Syrian ApoLogete was the first one to use these termini, but they are only a parcel - as the Latin Mass says: "Deus, qui humánae substántiae dignitátem mirabiliter condidisti, et mirabilius reformásti"

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

If it was clear that it was God speaking to me and it was clear he wanted me to do it, Yes for certain.
Otherwise No.

[Pericles]

This seems like one of the situations where you tell God to f**k off.

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Just think, Abrahamic religions have 4.2 billion people.

[John Dule]

Lol, people actually voted yes. I sincerely hope none of you ever develop schizophrenia— who knows what “God” might tell you to do if that happens.

[°Leprechaun]

Lol, people actually voted yes. I sincerely hope none of you ever develop schizophrenia— who knows what “God” might tell you to do if that happens.

I agree 100%. I am glad someone finally said this.

[°Leprechaun]

Why not amend the US Constitution?

No person shall have an abortion for any reason (unless God tells you to)

Sarcasm anyone?

[Ferguson97]

If it was clear that it was God speaking to me and it was clear he wanted me to do it, Yes for certain.
Otherwise No.

If it was truly clear that it was God I was hearing from and not Satan or my own thoughts, Yes.

I hope the two of you never have children.

[TDAS04]

This seems like one of the situations where you tell God to f**k off.

That might not work if God is all-powerful.

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

If it was clear that it was God speaking to me and it was clear he wanted me to do it, Yes for certain.
Otherwise No.

If it was truly clear that it was God I was hearing from and not Satan or my own thoughts, Yes.

I hope the two of you never have children.

I am in fact religious. I do believe in an all seeing all knowing God. I deeply respect that many will think differently, unlike you. And I hope you don't raise children sharing the same bigotry towards profound religiosity than you do. Have a nice day, I'm sorry to say I know you.
EDIT: Don't worry, the religiously devout will easily outbreed the likes of you. It's okay.

[Statilius the Epicurean]

If it was truly clear that it was God I was hearing from and not Satan or my own thoughts, Yes.

I don't know how one could ever be certain that God and not Satan is speaking to them.

[Mechavada]

No.  I'd only do it if God guaranteed me a dozen virgins and free land .

[John Dule]

If it was clear that it was God speaking to me and it was clear he wanted me to do it, Yes for certain.
Otherwise No.

If it was truly clear that it was God I was hearing from and not Satan or my own thoughts, Yes.

I hope the two of you never have children.

I am in fact religious. I do believe in an all seeing all knowing God. I deeply respect that many will think differently, unlike you. And I hope you don't raise children sharing the same bigotry towards profound religiosity than you do. Have a nice day, I'm sorry to say I know you.

Well yes, we're sufficiently bigoted against religious practice to say with reasonable certainty that committing child sacrifice is wrong. If that makes me a snooty liberal antitheist in your eyes, then so be it.

[John Dule]

Also, pretty funny that we got three Christian votes for "yes." I thought abortion was wrong because it was "killing kids," guys-- or is that not the case anymore?

[Ferguson97]

I am in fact religious. I do believe in an all seeing all knowing God. I deeply respect that many will think differently, unlike you. And I hope you don't raise children sharing the same bigotry towards profound religiosity than you do. Have a nice day, I'm sorry to say I know you.
EDIT: Don't worry, the religiously devout will easily outbreed the likes of you. It's okay.

You got me. I admit that I have zero respect people who are willing to murder their own children because the voices in their heads told them to do so.

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

I am in fact religious. I do believe in an all seeing all knowing God. I deeply respect that many will think differently, unlike you. And I hope you don't raise children sharing the same bigotry towards profound religiosity than you do. Have a nice day, I'm sorry to say I know you.
EDIT: Don't worry, the religiously devout will easily outbreed the likes of you. It's okay.

You got me. I admit that I have zero respect people who are willing to murder their own children because the voices in their heads told them to do so.

"Voices in their heads" Really telling on yourself here.
First, I added so many caveats and you jump to the most uncharitable interpretation possible. I just didn't give a complete total No, because of my beliefs around God. God is beyond our comprehension and it's just arrogant for us to play God or claim to know precisely literally everything about God and what he does. Your casual disrespect for religion is just hilarious. I didn't realize we had an r/athiest regular. And unlike Dule, he's actually unlikeable.
I don't go out of my way to tailor my religious beliefs to please athiests. You can be athiest or a non-athiest. I respect that. What I won't respect is your bigotry.
What a joke.

[Ferguson97]

"Voices in their heads"
First, I added so many caveats and you jump to the most uncharitable interpretation possible. I just didn't give a complete total No, because of my beliefs around God. God is beyond our comprehension and it's just arrogant for us to play God or claim to know precisely literally everything about God and what he does. Your casual disrespect for religion is just hilarious. I didn't realize we had an r/athiest regular. And unlike Dule, he's actually unlikeable.
I don't go out of my way to tailor my religious beliefs to please athiests. You can be athiest or a non-athiest. I respect that. What I won't respect is your bigotry.
What a joke.

If your God commands you to murder your own child, your God is evil. If you obey him, you are too.

You can be the most devoutly religious person on the planet, and I wouldn't care. Just don't kill your own children. I don't think that's an unreasonable thing to ask!

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

"Voices in their heads"
First, I added so many caveats and you jump to the most uncharitable interpretation possible. I just didn't give a complete total No, because of my beliefs around God. God is beyond our comprehension and it's just arrogant for us to play God or claim to know precisely literally everything about God and what he does. Your casual disrespect for religion is just hilarious. I didn't realize we had an r/athiest regular. And unlike Dule, he's actually unlikeable.
I don't go out of my way to tailor my religious beliefs to please athiests. You can be athiest or a non-athiest. I respect that. What I won't respect is your bigotry.
What a joke.

If your God commands you to murder your own child, your God is evil. If you obey him, you are too.

You can be the most devoutly religious person on the planet, and I wouldn't care. Just don't kill your own children. I don't think that's an unreasonable thing to ask!

My post expressed pretty implicit skepticism God would ever demand this of me. After all, this precise sort of scenario is not something I recall happening anytime since Abraham (ah) was asked to do it, as far as I'm aware.
God sits above humanity. Humanity is but a mere facet of his creation. I'm seeking to avoid arrogance here. And placing us on the level of God or applying human morality to God is ludicrous.

[Ferguson97]

My post expressed pretty implicit skepticism God would ever demand this of me. After all, this precise sort of scenario is not something I recall happening anytime since Abraham (ah) was asked to do it, as far as I'm aware.
God sits above humanity. Humanity is but a mere facet of his creation. I'm seeking to avoid arrogance here. And placing us on the level of God or applying human morality to God is ludicrous.

"God would never ask me to do this, but if I did, I would have to listen."

The notion that God is infallible and his wisdom is to never be questioned, as it is beyond our understanding, is, at best, a lazy cop-out answer crafted to avoid having to do any critical thinking about the foundations of your moral belief system.