State legs majority leader vs Congressman, which is a better position?
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« on: December 13, 2023, 11:58:24 AM »

Consider a state legs majority leader in a mid sized state like AZ. Would it be much an elevation if he get elected a Congressman? The current AZ speaker is indeed running for CD8. IMHO an average junior congressman has very little influence, if he has not special relationship with the leadership, or radical influencers like AOC. In comparison, a state legs majority leader has tremendous influence of that state. I would think a real promotion would be to the Senate, not House.
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« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2023, 11:59:32 AM »

Arizona has term limits, so it's uncommon for such leaders to run for other offices because they're barred from remaining in the legislature.
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« Reply #2 on: December 13, 2023, 07:55:50 PM »

In a state without term limits? State Legislative majority leader, no question at all.

They have actual power and influence. State politics is also more appealing/less soul-crushing than national politics (Richmond and Trenton are a lot more congenial and satisfying to work in than Washington, unless you're a lobbyist).

Also unless you're in a very large state, you can go back to your regular home at night (or have short stays in hotels during session) as opposed to costly second residences in DC which everyone outside of the DC metro area has to do.
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« Reply #3 on: December 13, 2023, 11:19:00 PM »

In a state without term limits? State Legislative majority leader, no question at all.

They have actual power and influence. State politics is also more appealing/less soul-crushing than national politics (Richmond and Trenton are a lot more congenial and satisfying to work in than Washington, unless you're a lobbyist).

Also unless you're in a very large state, you can go back to your regular home at night (or have short stays in hotels during session) as opposed to costly second residences in DC which everyone outside of the DC metro area has to do.

This is the first time I’ve ever seen someone describe Trenton as congenial or appealing.
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« Reply #4 on: December 14, 2023, 01:57:52 AM »

I would lean towards the state legislative leader. Look at Mike Madigan for an example. Definitely depends on term limits though.

In a state without term limits? State Legislative majority leader, no question at all.

They have actual power and influence. State politics is also more appealing/less soul-crushing than national politics (Richmond and Trenton are a lot more congenial and satisfying to work in than Washington, unless you're a lobbyist).

Also unless you're in a very large state, you can go back to your regular home at night (or have short stays in hotels during session) as opposed to costly second residences in DC which everyone outside of the DC metro area has to do.

This is the first time I’ve ever seen someone describe Trenton as congenial or appealing.

Certainly wasn’t congenial in 1776
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« Reply #5 on: December 14, 2023, 03:41:59 AM »

State Legislative Majority Leaders probably have an easier time getting Senate Nominations too.
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« Reply #6 on: December 14, 2023, 08:33:56 AM »

In a state without term limits? State Legislative majority leader, no question at all.

They have actual power and influence. State politics is also more appealing/less soul-crushing than national politics (Richmond and Trenton are a lot more congenial and satisfying to work in than Washington, unless you're a lobbyist).

Also unless you're in a very large state, you can go back to your regular home at night (or have short stays in hotels during session) as opposed to costly second residences in DC which everyone outside of the DC metro area has to do.

This is the first time I’ve ever seen someone describe Trenton as congenial or appealing.

The actual city is not appealing at all (heck, even New Brunswick is better than Trenton) - but the political atmosphere IS more congenial than Washington if you're a legislator.

Especially since most legislators are in Trenton only for the day (nearly all of the state is within relatively easy driving distance), that's good enough.

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« Reply #7 on: December 14, 2023, 09:32:55 PM »

I would lean towards the state legislative leader. Look at Mike Madigan for an example. Definitely depends on term limits though.

In a state without term limits? State Legislative majority leader, no question at all.

They have actual power and influence. State politics is also more appealing/less soul-crushing than national politics (Richmond and Trenton are a lot more congenial and satisfying to work in than Washington, unless you're a lobbyist).

Also unless you're in a very large state, you can go back to your regular home at night (or have short stays in hotels during session) as opposed to costly second residences in DC which everyone outside of the DC metro area has to do.

This is the first time I’ve ever seen someone describe Trenton as congenial or appealing.

Certainly wasn’t congenial in 1776

Tbf, for obvious reasons, the legislative majority leader in IL would be much more influential than in most other states.
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« Reply #8 on: December 15, 2023, 04:57:42 AM »

Depends on a lot of factors. Term Limits? Is the legislature full time? Pay? How far a flight to DC (I always thought being a congressman from Virginia is a much better job than being a congressman from California)?

In Minnesota legislators are officially part time even though for leadership it is basically a full time job. Legislative leadership gets paid around 72K a year so less than half of what congress gets. 
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« Reply #9 on: December 15, 2023, 05:54:07 AM »

In a state without term limits? State Legislative majority leader, no question at all.

They have actual power and influence. State politics is also more appealing/less soul-crushing than national politics (Richmond and Trenton are a lot more congenial and satisfying to work in than Washington, unless you're a lobbyist).

Also unless you're in a very large state, you can go back to your regular home at night (or have short stays in hotels during session) as opposed to costly second residences in DC which everyone outside of the DC metro area has to do.
or just use your office
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« Reply #10 on: December 16, 2023, 03:48:42 PM »

Being in Congress is a full-time job in a way most states legislatures are not, and that comes with higher salaries, larger staffs, more perks, more prestige, etc.  Congress wins this contest, quite easily.
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