SB 118-50: Constitutional Convention Proposal Vote - Failed

[Attorney General, Senator-Elect, & Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

Constitutional Convention Proposal Vote:

Seciton A. This bill will be known as the Constitutional Convention Proposal Vote

Section B. What's being voted on.
1. Whether or not direct democracy should be applied on the federal level.
An "Aye on 1" vote will signal an approval to move forward.
A "Nay on 1" vote will signal disapproval.

2. On the Nationalization of essential services defined as "healthcare, transportation, and energy".
An "Aye on 2" vote will signal an approval to move forward
A "Nay on 2" vote will signal disapproval

Section C. Implementation:
Following a 2/3rds vote in the senate, each issue will be brought to be voted during the next federal election. A majority vote is required for the implementation of a Constitutional Convention where these issues can be debated upon and decided on further. Because each issue is being voted on separately, one of them failing will not impact the other if it passes.

Sponsor: Christian Man
Occupying: Slot 7

[Attorney General, Senator-Elect, & Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

I thank the sponsor for finally introducing these in a format the Senate can actually consider. I will vote Aye and look forward to seeing the people decide on these important matters.

[Vice President Christian Man]

Thank you PPT Dwarven,

The people have a right to more representation on the decisions that matter the most to them. Few political parties speak entirely for what the people believe in, leading to a "lesser of evil" mentality which has played a role in robbing political discourse. People have a right to decide on these issues directly without needing to be elected, while also having the right to essential services without the threat of corporate greed or financial corruption.

[Joseph Cao]

People have a right to decide on these issues directly without needing to be elected,

Well, then, surely they have a right to approve issues without needing to elect a president. Or decide legal questions without needing to appoint judges.

I don't know if there is fundamentally not an understanding of representative government here or if CM just really wants to wreck this place, but he was just reelected to it so I'm guessing the first option. That'll be a no from me.

[Vice President Christian Man]

People have a right to decide on these issues directly without needing to be elected,

Well, then, surely they have a right to approve issues without needing to elect a president. Or decide legal questions without needing to appoint judges.

I don't know if there is fundamentally not an understanding of representative government here or if CM just really wants to wreck this place, but he was just reelected to it so I'm guessing the first option. That'll be a no from me.

With all due respect Senator Cao, similar opposition existed regarding the 17th amendment which has since become wildly popular. I don't see this as an attempt to sabotage the game, but rather an evolution of the democratic process as we haven't seen a significant democratic reform since the 26th amendment. The South has proven its ability to maintain a representative democratic model while promoting the use of citizen participation and approval of laws. I can't see how a government model that is by, of, and for the people violates the framework of a representative government.

[Attorney General, Senator-Elect, & Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

motion for a final vote

[Attorney General, Senator-Elect, & Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

A final vote is beginning.

Aye

[LAKISYLVANIA]

Nay

I don't see the point. I mean if you implement 1 you could as well get rid of elections and move to the system of the South where disinterest will quickly move in.

[Dr. MB]

Nay

[Vice President Christian Man]

Aye

[thumb21]

Aye

[Pyro]

Nay

[nerd73]

Nay

[At-Large Senator LouisvilleThunder]

Nay

[fhtagn]

Aye

[P. Clodius Pulcher did nothing wrong]

Aye

[Coastal Elitist]

Aye

[Jay 🏳️‍⚧️]

Aye

[reagente]

Aye

[RFayette]

Aye

[Deep Dixieland Senator, Muad'dib (OSR MSR)]

Aye

[ChiefFireWaterMike]

Aye

[Joseph Cao]

Nay.

[Attorney General, Senator-Elect, & Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

The vote is 11-6-0-1, however the bill imposed upon itself a 2/3 requirement to have any operative effect. 64% in favor is close, but not quite. The bill has failed.