SB 118-37: Moldova-Romania Unification Act - Failed
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« on: November 26, 2023, 05:33:44 PM »
« edited: December 08, 2023, 12:50:53 PM by PPT Dwarven Dragon »

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Moldova-Romania Unification Act

1. The Atlasian government officially recognizes (all of) Moldova as an integral part of Romania.

2. Moldova will be treated by the Atlasian government as a participant in all treaties currently binding Romania.

3. The Atlasian government is committed to safeguarding the territorial integrity of Romania.

4. Foreign invaders, including those in Transnistria, must leave Moldovan territory within seven days of the enactment of this act. Failure to comply will be considered an act of war against Atlasia.

5. The Atlasian government will cease all business dealings with countries that do not acknowledge Moldova as part of Romania within seven days of the enactment of this act.

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« Reply #1 on: November 26, 2023, 08:37:55 PM »

It's the only way Moldova could get in NATO.

So if you want Moldova as part of our Atlasian alliance, this is what you have to do. There's support in Moldova and Romania. The only reason it doesn't happen is because of the Transnistrian issue.

-> Should be a resolution though, don't know why i did "act"
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« Reply #2 on: November 26, 2023, 08:39:48 PM »

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Moldova-Romania Unification Act Resolution

1. The Atlasian government officially recognizes (all of) Moldova as an integral part of Romania.

2. Moldova will be treated by the Atlasian government as a participant in all treaties currently binding Romania.

3. The Atlasian government is committed to safeguarding the territorial integrity of Romania.

4. Foreign invaders, including those in Transnistria, must leave Moldovan territory within seven days of the enactment of this act. Failure to comply will be considered an act of war against Atlasia.

5. The Atlasian government will cease all business dealings with countries that do not acknowledge Moldova as part of Romania within seven days of the enactment of this act.

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Amendment.

Changing act to resolution

Hoping people will not object here for something common sense.
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« Reply #3 on: November 26, 2023, 08:42:35 PM »

sounds good
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« Reply #4 on: November 28, 2023, 11:26:39 AM »

Isn't it the position of the Russian government that an attack on Transnistria is an attack on Russia? I'm not sure Section 4 is a good idea.
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« Reply #5 on: November 28, 2023, 12:59:43 PM »

Amendment adopted
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« Reply #6 on: November 30, 2023, 04:56:10 PM »

Motion for a final vote
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« Reply #7 on: November 30, 2023, 10:01:46 PM »

Isn't it the position of the Russian government that an attack on Transnistria is an attack on Russia? I'm not sure Section 4 is a good idea.
Well given how Russia cares about self-determination of countries IRL and given how we all know who would win if a war breaks out, i'm willing to bet they'll back down.

Transnistria is already a violation of the self determination and integrity of a country, and we've seen what their intentions with those proxy states in Ukraine already. It's best to swiftly deal with them. It should be considered de facto invasion already.

In this case, the safety of the Moldovans are at stake.
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« Reply #8 on: November 30, 2023, 10:22:51 PM »

Isn't it the position of the Russian government that an attack on Transnistria is an attack on Russia? I'm not sure Section 4 is a good idea.
Well given how Russia cares about self-determination of countries IRL and given how we all know who would win if a war breaks out, i'm willing to bet they'll back down.

Transnistria is already a violation of the self determination and integrity of a country, and we've seen what their intentions with those proxy states in Ukraine already. It's best to swiftly deal with them. It should be considered de facto invasion already.

In this case, the safety of the Moldovans are at stake.

Fair enough, I will not oppose this legislation.
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« Reply #9 on: November 30, 2023, 11:10:01 PM »

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Moldova-Romania Unification Act Resolution

1. The Atlasian government officially recognizes (all of) Moldova as an integral part of Romania.

2. Moldova will be treated by the Atlasian government as a participant in all treaties currently binding Romania.

3. The Atlasian government is committed to safeguarding the territorial integrity of Romania.

4. Foreign invaders, including those in Transnistria, must leave Moldovan territory within seven days of the enactment of this act. Failure to comply will be considered an act of war against Atlasia.

5. The Atlasian government will cease all business dealings with countries that do not acknowledge Moldova as part of Romania within seven days of the enactment of this act.

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Amendment.

Changing act to resolution

Hoping people will not object here for something common sense.
Do you know the difference between an Act and a Resolution?
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« Reply #10 on: December 01, 2023, 12:09:22 AM »

It should be pointed out that the text of this still authorizes the government to do things, alter foreign policy, and other actions beyond simply registering the Senate's opinion (which is what resolutions are limited to doing). That makes this an act, whether or not the title says "resolution."

Objecting to the motion for a final vote so this can be resolved.
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« Reply #11 on: December 01, 2023, 12:37:22 AM »

Motion withdrawn.

What is the sponsor's goal here? Are you just wishing to urge the administration to take certain positions, or are you seeking to mandate certain actions?
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« Reply #12 on: December 02, 2023, 02:31:37 AM »

If there's no objection I guess we'll just change Resolution back to Act as the intent seems to be on the side of mandating actions.
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« Reply #13 on: December 02, 2023, 03:54:29 PM »

Amendment to change back to original version
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« Reply #14 on: December 03, 2023, 02:34:15 AM »

Amendment Adopted.

Motion for a final vote
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« Reply #15 on: December 04, 2023, 02:34:17 AM »

A final vote is beginning.

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« Reply #16 on: December 04, 2023, 02:53:23 AM »

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« Reply #17 on: December 04, 2023, 09:08:31 AM »

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« Reply #18 on: December 04, 2023, 09:34:11 AM »

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« Reply #19 on: December 04, 2023, 10:44:10 AM »

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« Reply #20 on: December 04, 2023, 11:22:23 AM »

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« Reply #21 on: December 04, 2023, 12:49:47 PM »

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« Reply #22 on: December 04, 2023, 01:16:43 PM »

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« Reply #23 on: December 04, 2023, 03:11:58 PM »

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« Reply #24 on: December 04, 2023, 04:30:11 PM »

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