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« on: November 23, 2023, 12:15:47 AM »

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« Reply #1 on: November 23, 2023, 12:22:05 AM »

Laura Kelly? Andy Beshear? (Although I expect he would bring Kentucky under 60% for the GOP.)
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« Reply #2 on: November 23, 2023, 12:31:21 AM »

This looks like a fairly solid 2028 after Trump 2.0 map.
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« Reply #3 on: November 25, 2023, 10:58:25 AM »

Whitmer would have a chance to create it in 2024 but this is a very realistic map based on trends alone for 2028.
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« Reply #4 on: November 25, 2023, 11:28:19 AM »

Virtually any Dem nominee if Don Giovanni wins a second term.
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« Reply #5 on: November 25, 2023, 04:07:47 PM »
« Edited: December 12, 2023, 04:35:06 PM by President Johnson »

I doubt this map is possible for 2024 under any realistic candidate or scenario, though in 2028 after another disastrous term of Trump and a weak Republican candidate versus a strong Democrat like Whitmer, Moore, Beshear, Shapiro or Warnock, it's very much within the range of possibilities.

Ironically, it's actually what I have as the 2024 election result in my novel, in which the incumbent president (the main character of the story) wins a full term in office after succeeding his predecessor in August 2021 following a health-related resignation. But unlike any current politician, he's a charismatic, good looking 49-year old mainstream Democrat with a background as successful businessman while his opponent is (somewhat an analogy to Trump) the former Republican president (a woman) that was already voted out in 2020. In an October surprise, the divorced president admits his love for a former 33-year old staffer who's introduced as First Lady and wins the hearts of the nation. As black woman, she helps turn out the African American vote. He's also fluent in Spanish, what gets him an additional boost while the female vice president appeals to many suburban voters, especially white women. So unique circumstances that won't happen next year.
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« Reply #6 on: November 27, 2023, 05:56:47 PM »

This looks like a fairly solid 2028 after Trump 2.0 map.

If we even have an election in 2028
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« Reply #7 on: November 27, 2023, 06:21:56 PM »

This looks like a fairly solid 2028 after Trump 2.0 map.

If we even have an election in 2028

How many times do I need to repeat myself. We will have an election in 2028 and the idea that Trump will successfully turn the United States into an authoritarian dictatorship or that January 6 2.0 will be more successful than the first one is left-wing doomerist fantasy.
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« Reply #8 on: November 29, 2023, 08:20:19 AM »

This looks like a fairly solid 2028 after Trump 2.0 map.

If we even have an election in 2028

How many times do I need to repeat myself. We will have an election in 2028 and the idea that Trump will successfully turn the United States into an authoritarian dictatorship or that January 6 2.0 will be more successful than the first one is left-wing doomerist fantasy.

Sorry, not giving him any benefit of the doubt after the 2020 election mess and Jan 6th
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« Reply #9 on: November 29, 2023, 10:49:10 AM »

This looks like a fairly solid 2028 after Trump 2.0 map.

If we even have an election in 2028

How many times do I need to repeat myself. We will have an election in 2028 and the idea that Trump will successfully turn the United States into an authoritarian dictatorship or that January 6 2.0 will be more successful than the first one is left-wing doomerist fantasy.

Sorry, not giving him any benefit of the doubt after the 2020 election mess and Jan 6th

Trump no,  but I’l give it to Congress, state governments, and the courts to keep his power in check.
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« Reply #10 on: November 29, 2023, 12:35:16 PM »

"Perpetual Tilt R Florida" is a meme at this point.

But I'll say Henry Cuellar.
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« Reply #11 on: December 01, 2023, 12:18:55 AM »

I could see Raphael Warnock making enough inroads with white evangelicals which could lead to some closer than normal results in some solid conservative states (although he'd likely still lose them by 50 points rather than the nearly 60 points that Trump won them by). Perhaps someone like Padilla or Gallego would be his VP which would explain his strong performance in the Sun Belt, while he'd win the Rust Belt due to Trump fatigue.
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« Reply #12 on: December 01, 2023, 06:36:45 PM »

I could see Raphael Warnock making enough inroads with white evangelicals which could lead to some closer than normal results in some solid conservative states (although he'd likely still lose them by 50 points rather than the nearly 60 points that Trump won them by). Perhaps someone like Padilla or Gallego would be his VP which would explain his strong performance in the Sun Belt, while he'd win the Rust Belt due to Trump fatigue.

Warnock is pro choice.
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« Reply #13 on: December 01, 2023, 09:33:18 PM »

I could see Raphael Warnock making enough inroads with white evangelicals which could lead to some closer than normal results in some solid conservative states (although he'd likely still lose them by 50 points rather than the nearly 60 points that Trump won them by). Perhaps someone like Padilla or Gallego would be his VP which would explain his strong performance in the Sun Belt, while he'd win the Rust Belt due to Trump fatigue.

Warnock is pro choice.

1. Not all evangelicals are pro-life, especially younger ones.
2. I assumed that him being a pastor would boost him with that group, albeit slightly.
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« Reply #14 on: December 05, 2023, 04:36:20 PM »
« Edited: December 05, 2023, 04:44:06 PM by Dr Oz Lost Party! »

If there is any Democrat alive who has the juice to be able to pull this off, it would be Josh Shapiro. He's probably the party's most talented politician since Obama, maybe even Clinton.
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« Reply #15 on: December 07, 2023, 01:40:42 AM »

Biden and Harris but if TX goes D FL will too Biden is only 5 pts down in FL 44)39 not 60)40
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« Reply #16 on: December 09, 2023, 02:39:26 AM »

it would require some 2008 type environment. Maybe Wes Moore
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« Reply #17 on: December 18, 2023, 09:34:06 PM »

This looks like a fairly solid 2028 after Trump 2.0 map.

If we even have an election in 2028

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it would require some 2008 type environment. Maybe Wes Moore

There's probably something I'm missing...Why exactly does Atlas as a whole consider Wes Moore such a strong candidate?? He doesn't seem all that exciting or remarkable to me, though there may well be some missing context I've yet to come across.
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« Reply #18 on: December 19, 2023, 11:08:36 PM »

Which Democratic presidential nominee could plausibly create this electoral map?

Joe Biden.
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