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« on: November 19, 2023, 09:15:02 PM »
« edited: December 05, 2023, 01:55:56 PM by PPT Dwarven Dragon »

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S.P.L.I.T. Act

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1 . This act shall be know as the Stop Promoting Lunacy In Treatment Act or S.P.L.I.T. Act.

2 . For purposes of all Atlasian law, an individual diagnosed with or suffering from schizophrenia, multiple personality disorder, or a similar mental health disorder that causes the individual to suffer from delusional thoughts shall:

A. constitute a single, individual person regardless of how many personas or identities such person may have or claim to have or which pronouns such person may ask to be used.

B. constitute a single age based on the date of actual birth of the legal identity, regardless of the claimed age or lack of age of any personas or identities such person may have or claim to have.

C. constitute a single species, human, based on the actual genetics of the legal identity, regardless of the claimed species of any personas or identities such person may have or claim to have.

D. constitute a single degree of ability based on the actual genetics of legal identity, regardless of the claimed disabilities of any personas or identities such person may have or claim to have.

3 . No individual diagnosed with or suffering from schizophrenia, multiple personality disorder, or a similar mental health disorder that causes the individual to suffer from delusional thoughts may raise such disorder as a defense to a charge of traveling in a High-Occupancy Vehicle (HOV) without a passenger.

4 . No individual diagnosed with or suffering from schizophrenia, multiple personality disorder, or a similar mental health disorder that causes the individual to suffer from delusional thoughts may apply for or collect any public benefit, tax deduction or exemption, or federal funds in the name of any alternate persona or identity not recognized by law.
5 . No individual diagnosed with or suffering from schizophrenia, multiple personality disorder, or a similar mental health disorder that causes the individual to suffer from delusional thoughts may apply for or receive any government license or document in the name of any alternate persona or identity not recognized by law.

6 . It shall be a misdemeanor punishable by imprisonment for no more than one (1) year and a fine of no more than $10,000.00 for any individual to apply for any scholarship, grant, or other benefit or engage in any act that is restricted on the basis of species, race, or age, or similar protected class unless the legal identity of such individual meets the qualifications therefor.

7 . Time blindness, in which a person claims to suffer from an inability or lack of ability to perceive or respond to the passage of linear time, shall not be considered a disability under Atlasian law.

8 . Coprophagia, urophagia, emetophagia, or hemophagia shall not be considered a disability under Atlasian law.

9 . Vampirism, werewolfism, or demonic possession shall not be considered a disability under Atlasian law, unless in the case of demonic possession such possession is confirmed by an ordained religious official.

10 . It shall be a felony punishable by imprisonment for no less two (2) years and no more than twenty (20) years, a fine of $100,000.00, and prohibition on receiving any federal reimbursement funds for providers, for any medical practitioner to perform any the following surgeries, procedures, or body modifications on an otherwise physically healthy patient when such surgery, procedure, or body modification is not otherwise medically necessary to the physical health of the patient:
A. Foot-binding;

B. The amputation of a healthy limb;

C. Intentional paralysis;

D. Intentional blinding, deafening, or muting;

E. Female Genital Cutting or removal of the clitoral hood or clitoris;

F. Nose removal;

G. Tongue removal or splitting;

H. Ear removal or pointing;

I. Dental implantation of fangs or the filing of teeth into fangs;

J. Microchip implanting; or

K. Artificial horn implants or grafts, whether above or beneath the skin;

11 . This act shall take effect immediately.

Sponsor: Coastal Elitist
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« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2023, 05:31:55 PM »

how many times do we have to teach you this lesson old man
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« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2023, 05:43:33 PM »

This bill bans gender reassignment surgery.
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« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2023, 08:36:27 PM »

Very uncomfortable with the vagueness of phrases like "similar mental health disorder" and "delusional thoughts" in the first half of this bill. Likewise, the use of pronouns in Sec. 2-A and notion of "claimed disabilities" do not sit well with me. Seeking to disallow persons with identities not matching their legal definition (which theoretically may be the case for those living in a region that may refuse gender re-assignment) to receive public benefits or licenses I too disfavor.

The second half of the bill that deals predominantly in prohibiting surgeries like dental implants for fangs or tongue splitting is potentially an infringement on the rights of patients to receive elective, cosmetic procedures by licensed physicians. I see no reason why this Senate need concern itself with voluntary surgeries. Certain procedures involving genitals also do, as Senator LT indicated, border on if not outright fall into the camp of gender or sex re-assignment surgery. All in all, I cannot see myself supporting this legislation without some serious amendments.
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« Reply #4 on: November 22, 2023, 11:39:44 PM »

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E. Female Genital Cutting or removal of the clitoral hood or clitoris;
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« Reply #5 on: November 22, 2023, 11:41:26 PM »

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E. Female Genital Cutting or removal of the clitoral hood or clitoris;

yeah it's interesting that genital cutting is apparently O.K. if you have a d***
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« Reply #6 on: November 26, 2023, 08:05:42 AM »

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11 . It is the position of Atlasia that affirming as real or valid any delusion or alternate persona or identity of a person diagnosed with or suffering from schizophrenia, multiple personality disorder, body dysmorphia, or a similar mental health disorder that causes the individual to suffer from delusional thoughts is unethical and harmful to such person's mental health.

This is very harmful because it basically means you discriminate people suffering from schizophrenia, multiple personality disorder, body dysmorphia or a similar mental health disorder (and what is a similar mental health disorder, autism spectrum disorder?).

None of you have worked in psychiatry or studied psychology, so please don't propose these bills. It's clear you don't know anything about it.
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« Reply #7 on: November 26, 2023, 08:09:22 AM »

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S.P.L.I.T. Act

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1 . This act shall be know as the Stop Promoting Lunacy In Treatment Act or S.P.L.I.T. Act.

2 . For purposes of all Atlasian law, an individual diagnosed with or suffering from schizophrenia, multiple personality disorder, or a similar mental health disorder that causes the individual to suffer from delusional thoughts shall:

A. constitute a single, individual person regardless of how many personas or identities such person may have or claim to have or which pronouns such person may ask to be used.

B. constitute a single age based on the date of actual birth of the legal identity, regardless of the claimed age or lack of age of any personas or identities such person may have or claim to have.

C. constitute a single species, human, based on the actual genetics of the legal identity, regardless of the claimed species of any personas or identities such person may have or claim to have.

D. constitute a single degree of ability based on the actual genetics of legal identity, regardless of the claimed disabilities of any personas or identities such person may have or claim to have.

3 . No individual diagnosed with or suffering from schizophrenia, multiple personality disorder, or a similar mental health disorder that causes the individual to suffer from delusional thoughts may raise such disorder as a defense to a charge of traveling in a High-Occupancy Vehicle (HOV) without a passenger.

4 . No individual diagnosed with or suffering from schizophrenia, multiple personality disorder, or a similar mental health disorder that causes the individual to suffer from delusional thoughts may apply for or collect any public benefit, tax deduction or exemption, or federal funds in the name of any alternate persona or identity not recognized by law.
5 . No individual diagnosed with or suffering from schizophrenia, multiple personality disorder, or a similar mental health disorder that causes the individual to suffer from delusional thoughts may apply for or receive any government license or document in the name of any alternate persona or identity not recognized by law.

6 . It shall be a misdemeanor punishable by imprisonment for no more than one (1) year and a fine of no more than $10,000.00 for any individual to apply for any scholarship, grant, or other benefit or engage in any act that is restricted on the basis of species, race, or age, or similar protected class unless the legal identity of such individual meets the qualifications therefor.

7 . Time blindness, in which a person claims to suffer from an inability or lack of ability to perceive or respond to the passage of linear time, shall not be considered a disability under Atlasian law.

8 . Coprophagia, urophagia, emetophagia, or hemophagia shall not be considered a disability under Atlasian law.

9 . Vampirism, werewolfism, or demonic possession shall not be considered a disability under Atlasian law, unless in the case of demonic possession such possession is confirmed by an ordained religious official.

10 . It shall be a felony punishable by imprisonment for no less two (2) years and no more than twenty (20) years, a fine of $100,000.00, and prohibition on receiving any federal reimbursement funds for providers, for any medical practitioner to perform any the following surgeries, procedures, or body modifications on an otherwise physically healthy patient when such surgery, procedure, or body modification is not otherwise medically necessary to the physical health of the patient:
A. Foot-binding;

B. The amputation of a healthy limb;

C. Intentional paralysis;

D. Intentional blinding, deafening, or muting;

E. Female Genital Cutting or removal of the clitoral hood or clitoris;

F. Nose removal;

G. Tongue removal or splitting;

H. Ear removal or pointing;

I. Dental implantation of fangs or the filing of teeth into fangs;

J. Microchip implanting; or

K. Artificial horn implants or grafts, whether above or beneath the skin;

11 . It is the position of Atlasia that affirming as real or valid any delusion or alternate persona or identity of a person diagnosed with or suffering from schizophrenia, multiple personality disorder, body dysmorphia, or a similar mental health disorder that causes the individual to suffer from delusional thoughts is unethical and harmful to such person's mental health.

12 . This act shall take effect immediately.

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« Reply #8 on: November 27, 2023, 12:03:46 AM »
« Edited: November 27, 2023, 12:10:02 AM by PPT Dwarven Dragon »

While I have no objection to the amendment, I still plan to oppose the bill

Motion for a final vote (consider this to be withdrawn if we need to have a vote on the amendment, otherwise it will be adopted by voice in time)
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« Reply #9 on: November 27, 2023, 04:20:12 PM »

Objection. This is common sense legislation
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« Reply #10 on: November 27, 2023, 04:40:53 PM »

Well when the PPT lazily forgets to close the objection period, I guess you win an amendment vote lol.

Question is on the amendment

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S.P.L.I.T. Act

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1 . This act shall be know as the Stop Promoting Lunacy In Treatment Act or S.P.L.I.T. Act.

2 . For purposes of all Atlasian law, an individual diagnosed with or suffering from schizophrenia, multiple personality disorder, or a similar mental health disorder that causes the individual to suffer from delusional thoughts shall:

A. constitute a single, individual person regardless of how many personas or identities such person may have or claim to have or which pronouns such person may ask to be used.

B. constitute a single age based on the date of actual birth of the legal identity, regardless of the claimed age or lack of age of any personas or identities such person may have or claim to have.

C. constitute a single species, human, based on the actual genetics of the legal identity, regardless of the claimed species of any personas or identities such person may have or claim to have.

D. constitute a single degree of ability based on the actual genetics of legal identity, regardless of the claimed disabilities of any personas or identities such person may have or claim to have.

3 . No individual diagnosed with or suffering from schizophrenia, multiple personality disorder, or a similar mental health disorder that causes the individual to suffer from delusional thoughts may raise such disorder as a defense to a charge of traveling in a High-Occupancy Vehicle (HOV) without a passenger.

4 . No individual diagnosed with or suffering from schizophrenia, multiple personality disorder, or a similar mental health disorder that causes the individual to suffer from delusional thoughts may apply for or collect any public benefit, tax deduction or exemption, or federal funds in the name of any alternate persona or identity not recognized by law.
5 . No individual diagnosed with or suffering from schizophrenia, multiple personality disorder, or a similar mental health disorder that causes the individual to suffer from delusional thoughts may apply for or receive any government license or document in the name of any alternate persona or identity not recognized by law.

6 . It shall be a misdemeanor punishable by imprisonment for no more than one (1) year and a fine of no more than $10,000.00 for any individual to apply for any scholarship, grant, or other benefit or engage in any act that is restricted on the basis of species, race, or age, or similar protected class unless the legal identity of such individual meets the qualifications therefor.

7 . Time blindness, in which a person claims to suffer from an inability or lack of ability to perceive or respond to the passage of linear time, shall not be considered a disability under Atlasian law.

8 . Coprophagia, urophagia, emetophagia, or hemophagia shall not be considered a disability under Atlasian law.

9 . Vampirism, werewolfism, or demonic possession shall not be considered a disability under Atlasian law, unless in the case of demonic possession such possession is confirmed by an ordained religious official.

10 . It shall be a felony punishable by imprisonment for no less two (2) years and no more than twenty (20) years, a fine of $100,000.00, and prohibition on receiving any federal reimbursement funds for providers, for any medical practitioner to perform any the following surgeries, procedures, or body modifications on an otherwise physically healthy patient when such surgery, procedure, or body modification is not otherwise medically necessary to the physical health of the patient:
A. Foot-binding;

B. The amputation of a healthy limb;

C. Intentional paralysis;

D. Intentional blinding, deafening, or muting;

E. Female Genital Cutting or removal of the clitoral hood or clitoris;

F. Nose removal;

G. Tongue removal or splitting;

H. Ear removal or pointing;

I. Dental implantation of fangs or the filing of teeth into fangs;

J. Microchip implanting; or

K. Artificial horn implants or grafts, whether above or beneath the skin;

11 . It is the position of Atlasia that affirming as real or valid any delusion or alternate persona or identity of a person diagnosed with or suffering from schizophrenia, multiple personality disorder, body dysmorphia, or a similar mental health disorder that causes the individual to suffer from delusional thoughts is unethical and harmful to such person's mental health.

12 . This act shall take effect immediately.

Sponsor: Coastal Elitist
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« Reply #11 on: November 27, 2023, 04:44:34 PM »

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« Reply #12 on: November 27, 2023, 08:30:13 PM »

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« Reply #13 on: November 27, 2023, 08:51:13 PM »

Aye, although I remain opposed to the bill.
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« Reply #14 on: November 28, 2023, 01:02:04 AM »

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« Reply #15 on: November 28, 2023, 06:43:40 AM »

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« Reply #16 on: November 28, 2023, 11:15:50 PM »

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None of you have worked in psychiatry or studied psychology, so please don't propose these bills. It's clear you don't know anything about it.

Your amendment makes clear you either haven't, or you have but not successfully.
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« Reply #17 on: November 29, 2023, 10:52:30 AM »

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« Reply #18 on: November 29, 2023, 10:55:18 AM »

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« Reply #19 on: November 29, 2023, 04:24:43 PM »

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« Reply #20 on: November 30, 2023, 01:32:59 AM »

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« Reply #21 on: November 30, 2023, 12:00:16 PM »

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« Reply #22 on: November 30, 2023, 01:02:06 PM »

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« Reply #23 on: November 30, 2023, 03:56:57 PM »

Amendment Adopted 8-5-0-4

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« Reply #24 on: December 02, 2023, 02:16:09 AM »

A final vote is beginning.

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