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« on: November 09, 2023, 12:53:36 AM »
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1 . Every school, college, or university receiving federal funds shall be required by January 1, 2024 to adopt a plagiarism policy prohibiting the use of robots, algorithms, or artificial intelligence, including but not limited to ChatGPT, in the completion of any paper, test, assignment, or other student work product.

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« Reply #1 on: November 09, 2023, 08:11:53 AM »

What methods would actually be used to prove that something is written by ChatGPT?
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« Reply #2 on: November 09, 2023, 09:02:04 PM »

Senator LT brings up a very good point. I fear this cannot actually be implemented unless it designates a specific tool used to discover and root out AI-written assignments.

Additionally, speaking as a strong opponent to AI and ChatGPT, the penalty is quite harsh. I understand the intent is to discourage use of AI with a threatening punishment, but to revoke financial aid for two years is a step too far, in my book.
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« Reply #3 on: November 10, 2023, 05:41:37 PM »

Plagiarism should not be permitted by college students receiving federal money. We are paying for education not cheaters.

IIRC a federal law was passed several years ago during the bicameral days codifying disciplinary hearing due process in colleges, so as this would be a disciplinary violation, accused students are already entitled to ample due process including a presumption of innocence and the right to present evidence and have legal assistance prior to any determination of guilt.
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« Reply #4 on: November 11, 2023, 01:07:09 AM »

I note this is a harsher penalty for students on federal aid than we currently apply to Senators for the equivalent offense as far as senatorial duties are concerned…
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« Reply #5 on: November 13, 2023, 09:49:05 AM »

Offering an amendment:

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1 . Every school, college, or university receiving federal funds shall be required by January 1, 2024 to adopt a plagiarism policy prohibiting the use of robots, algorithms, or artificial intelligence, including but not limited to ChatGPT, in the completion of any paper, test, assignment, or other student work product.

2 . Beginning January 1, 2024, any student receiving federal student aid who is proven after due process to have used any robot, algorithm, or artificial intelligence, including but not limited to ChatGPT, in the completion of any paper, test, assignment, or other student work product, shall have his or her student aid revoked and shall be ineligible to reapply for such aid for no less than two (2) years.

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« Reply #6 on: November 14, 2023, 08:29:22 AM »



As LT said, you can't enforce it.

And it's something that senators like senator Cao must also start to consider that we must not pass bills that we cannot enforce (like terminate cyberdyne).
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« Reply #7 on: November 14, 2023, 08:34:20 AM »

I note this is a harsher penalty for students on federal aid than we currently apply to Senators for the equivalent offense as far as senatorial duties are concerned…

What is your suggestion?

Banning me from the game for five years because some people suggest or assume i use ChatGPT?
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« Reply #8 on: November 14, 2023, 02:35:20 PM »

Amendment is Adopted
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« Reply #9 on: November 14, 2023, 02:35:43 PM »

Motion for a final vote
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« Reply #10 on: November 15, 2023, 12:17:53 AM »

I note this is a harsher penalty for students on federal aid than we currently apply to Senators for the equivalent offense as far as senatorial duties are concerned…

What is your suggestion?

Banning me from the game for five years because some people suggest or assume i use ChatGPT?

I would simply lower the penalty or eliminate it, not be punitive. Not sure why your brain jumped immediately to this, I defended you on this last session!
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« Reply #11 on: November 15, 2023, 12:35:26 AM »

I note this is a harsher penalty for students on federal aid than we currently apply to Senators for the equivalent offense as far as senatorial duties are concerned…

What is your suggestion?

Banning me from the game for five years because some people suggest or assume i use ChatGPT?

I would simply lower the penalty or eliminate it, not be punitive. Not sure why your brain jumped immediately to this, I defended you on this last session!

An interesting attempt to frame your actions in a positive light, but all you did was point to a provision that actually failed to specifically and effectively exempt Laki. You then voted against the repeal that Laki actually wants.
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« Reply #12 on: November 15, 2023, 03:21:35 PM »

A final vote is beginning.

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« Reply #13 on: November 15, 2023, 03:39:10 PM »

Nay
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« Reply #14 on: November 15, 2023, 04:55:31 PM »

Nay. I support cracking down on AI, but this bill lacks a metric to enforce its provisions.
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« Reply #15 on: November 15, 2023, 07:22:13 PM »

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« Reply #16 on: November 15, 2023, 08:53:06 PM »

Abstain
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« Reply #17 on: November 15, 2023, 08:58:34 PM »

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« Reply #18 on: November 15, 2023, 09:59:26 PM »

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« Reply #19 on: November 15, 2023, 10:06:36 PM »

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« Reply #20 on: November 15, 2023, 10:16:20 PM »

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« Reply #21 on: November 15, 2023, 10:24:41 PM »

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« Reply #22 on: November 16, 2023, 05:12:41 AM »

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« Reply #23 on: November 16, 2023, 06:53:59 AM »

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« Reply #24 on: November 16, 2023, 02:49:04 PM »

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