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« on: October 11, 2023, 08:29:30 PM »



"The law, which will go into effect on Jan. 1, will allow the California Highway Patrol to activate the alert upon request from local law enforcement when a Black youth goes missing in the area. The Ebony Alert will utilize electronic highway signs and encourage use of radio, TV, social media and other systems to spread information about the missing persons’ alert. The Ebony Alert will be used for missing Black people aged 12 to 25."

This is blatantly unconstitutional, since it prioritize black over any other races. It's almost impossible to pass strict scrutiny. Not sure if it can survive in the liberal 9th circuit, but if so, struck down by SC for sure.

Honestly this looks terrible for Dems. If it makes big news once on SC, it will certainly further trigger the right shift of Asian and Latino.
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« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2023, 08:48:50 PM »

Honestly this looks terrible for Dems. If it makes big news once on SC, it will certainly further trigger the right shift of Asian and Latino.

No, it won't.
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« Reply #2 on: October 11, 2023, 09:50:01 PM »

https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1711856880731988182

"The law, which will go into effect on Jan. 1, will allow the California Highway Patrol to activate the alert upon request from local law enforcement when a Black youth goes missing in the area. The Ebony Alert will utilize electronic highway signs and encourage use of radio, TV, social media and other systems to spread information about the missing persons’ alert. The Ebony Alert will be used for missing Black people aged 12 to 25."

This is blatantly unconstitutional, since it prioritize black over any other races. It's almost impossible to pass strict scrutiny. Not sure if it can survive in the liberal 9th circuit, but if so, struck down by SC for sure.

Did you stop reading there without continuing on into the very next 2 paragraphs?

The law, which will go into effect on Jan. 1, will allow the California Highway Patrol to activate the alert upon request from local law enforcement when a Black youth goes missing in the area. The Ebony Alert will utilize electronic highway signs and encourage use of radio, TV, social media and other systems to spread information about the missing persons’ alert. The Ebony Alert will be used for missing Black people aged 12 to 25.

"Data shows that Black and brown, our indigenous brothers and sisters, when they go missing there's very rarely the type of media attention, let alone AMBER alerts and police resources that we see with our white counterparts," state Sen. Steven Bradford, also a Democrat and creator of the legislation, told NBC News earlier this year.

He added: "We feel it's well beyond time that we dedicate something specifically to help bring these young women and girls back home because they're missed and loved just as much as their counterparts are."

If Black children are particularly treated separately & unequally in being disproportionately disparately impacted by exclusion from AMBER alerts, & this legislation intends to so remediate the discriminatory child abduction emergency alert system by using race no more than necessary to achieve such compelling purpose, then the constitutional question fails.
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« Reply #3 on: October 11, 2023, 11:31:44 PM »

If Black children are particularly treated separately & unequally in being disproportionately disparately impacted by exclusion from AMBER alerts, & this legislation intends to so remediate the discriminatory child abduction emergency alert system by using race no more than necessary to achieve such compelling purpose, then the constitutional question fails.
so instead of fixing a broken govt program, the answer is to create a new govt program?
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« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2023, 11:39:52 PM »

If Black children are particularly treated separately & unequally in being disproportionately disparately impacted by exclusion from AMBER alerts, & this legislation intends to so remediate the discriminatory child abduction emergency alert system by using race no more than necessary to achieve such compelling purpose, then the constitutional question fails.

so instead of fixing a broken govt program, the answer is to create a new govt program?

If the present program can't be fixed because cops won't stop misclassifying missing Black abductees as runaways ineligible for alerts, then maybe.
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« Reply #5 on: October 12, 2023, 12:05:42 AM »

If Black children are particularly treated separately & unequally in being disproportionately disparately impacted by exclusion from AMBER alerts, & this legislation intends to so remediate the discriminatory child abduction emergency alert system by using race no more than necessary to achieve such compelling purpose, then the constitutional question fails.

so instead of fixing a broken govt program, the answer is to create a new govt program?

If the present program can't be fixed because cops won't stop misclassifying missing Black abductees as runaways ineligible for alerts, then maybe.
seems to me there would be a lot of other benefits in getting rid of racist cops, but I suppose it's easier to just start yet another agency
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« Reply #6 on: October 12, 2023, 05:00:33 AM »

https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1711856880731988182

"The law, which will go into effect on Jan. 1, will allow the California Highway Patrol to activate the alert upon request from local law enforcement when a Black youth goes missing in the area. The Ebony Alert will utilize electronic highway signs and encourage use of radio, TV, social media and other systems to spread information about the missing persons’ alert. The Ebony Alert will be used for missing Black people aged 12 to 25."

This is blatantly unconstitutional, since it prioritize black over any other races. It's almost impossible to pass strict scrutiny. Not sure if it can survive in the liberal 9th circuit, but if so, struck down by SC for sure.

Did you stop reading there without continuing on into the very next 2 paragraphs?

The law, which will go into effect on Jan. 1, will allow the California Highway Patrol to activate the alert upon request from local law enforcement when a Black youth goes missing in the area. The Ebony Alert will utilize electronic highway signs and encourage use of radio, TV, social media and other systems to spread information about the missing persons’ alert. The Ebony Alert will be used for missing Black people aged 12 to 25.

"Data shows that Black and brown, our indigenous brothers and sisters, when they go missing there's very rarely the type of media attention, let alone AMBER alerts and police resources that we see with our white counterparts," state Sen. Steven Bradford, also a Democrat and creator of the legislation, told NBC News earlier this year.

He added: "We feel it's well beyond time that we dedicate something specifically to help bring these young women and girls back home because they're missed and loved just as much as their counterparts are."

If Black children are particularly treated separately & unequally in being disproportionately disparately impacted by exclusion from AMBER alerts, & this legislation intends to so remediate the discriminatory child abduction emergency alert system by using race no more than necessary to achieve such compelling purpose, then the constitutional question fails.
Can hospitals prioritize treating black patients, because they are more likely to be poor and short life expectancy on average?

Can school prioritize educating black students, because they are more likely to have lower grade and less likely to graduate on average?

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« Reply #7 on: October 12, 2023, 06:12:53 AM »

If Black children are particularly treated separately & unequally in being disproportionately disparately impacted by exclusion from AMBER alerts, & this legislation intends to so remediate the discriminatory child abduction emergency alert system by using race no more than necessary to achieve such compelling purpose, then the constitutional question fails.

so instead of fixing a broken govt program, the answer is to create a new govt program?

If the present program can't be fixed because cops won't stop misclassifying missing Black abductees as runaways ineligible for alerts, then maybe.
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"The law, which will go into effect on Jan. 1, will allow the California Highway Patrol to activate the alert upon request from local law enforcement when a Black youth goes missing in the area.
they seem to have forgotten the part about the racists cops being the problem here
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« Reply #8 on: October 12, 2023, 11:15:55 AM »

If Black children are particularly treated separately & unequally in being disproportionately disparately impacted by exclusion from AMBER alerts, & this legislation intends to so remediate the discriminatory child abduction emergency alert system by using race no more than necessary to achieve such compelling purpose, then the constitutional question fails.

so instead of fixing a broken govt program, the answer is to create a new govt program?

If the present program can't be fixed because cops won't stop misclassifying missing Black abductees as runaways ineligible for alerts, then maybe.
Unfortunately nowhere in the article does it say how creating a new separate alert system is going to stop cops from doing this.
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« Reply #9 on: October 12, 2023, 02:22:24 PM »

So you're saying that Asian and Hispanic people don't want missing Black people to be found? That's rather racist logic. The ignorance of conservatives is they say "I don't see color" yet they are ignorant to the fact that lots of people of color get no media attention when they go missing. If there wasn't inequality in getting attention for missing people of color there would be no need for this law. If there is a clear inequality then it's perfectly constitutional to make laws to remedy it.

With that said, a missing Asian or Hispanic person is also far less likely to receive the same level of coverage than a missing White woman who is photogenic. Heck, some of you all men won't care about a missing White woman if she isn't a perfect ten in your books.
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« Reply #10 on: October 12, 2023, 06:48:39 PM »

It also occurred to me that if the problem is that alerts about missing Black people, creating a separate alert system will make the alerts even easier to ignore, which is the whole reason why separate systems were gotten rid of in the first place.
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« Reply #11 on: October 12, 2023, 07:13:54 PM »

It also occurred to me that if the problem is that alerts about missing Black people, creating a separate alert system will make the alerts even easier to ignore, which is the whole reason why separate systems were gotten rid of in the first place.

Missing people of color often get zero coverage so an alert is a step up. The problem really isn't the public at large, but the media and law enforcement not putting information out there. As cynical as I often am I don't believe that even most White people are going to ignore an emergency alert just because the missing person is Black or another minority.
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« Reply #12 on: October 13, 2023, 12:50:48 PM »

"Ebony"? I mean I get the concept, but that's kinda weird. Performative non-response to the issue of missing white woman syndrome, which frankly doesn't need a dedicated law with a weird racial fetishizationy name to be addressed.
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« Reply #13 on: October 22, 2023, 06:25:29 PM »

Atlas's obsession with race wars will never cease to disturb me. No, Asians and Latinos aren't going to run into the arms of the GOP because a new law helps Black people. What a bizarre and racist assumption to make.

"Ebony"? I mean I get the concept, but that's kinda weird. Performative non-response to the issue of missing white woman syndrome, which frankly doesn't need a dedicated law with a weird racial fetishizationy name to be addressed.

The bill was introduced by a Black Senator.
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