Israel-Gaza war

[Yoda]

the public goodwill from 10/7 is gone at this point. People that were mildly pro-israel before this are turning against them, and that's not only in the US.


Said it before, I'll say it again, fu ck Hamas, fu ck Bibi, stand with civilians, stand with aid workers.

I've become increasingly convinced that the happiest day of Bibi's life was 10/7, b/c he saw an incredible opportunity to accomplish two goals he desperately wants: staying in power and the eradication of every human being in Gaza.

I don't have the energy to go into it, but this is a very big miscalculation of how Bibi works and what he wants. October 7th was not even close to a plus for him staying in power (which is indeed his primary goal and only directive), and he never had any wish to "eradicate everyone in Gaza". He wanted stability and the status quo, and for that reason propping up Hamas worked for him (less pressure for a 2SS). Bibi was pale and panicked on October 7th. It's not that he cares an awful lot for his country, but that day was horrible for him.

You may be right that lately 10/7 has turned out to not be so great for him, but that was very much not the case at the time. Bibi - and I truly believe this is almost beyond argument among reasonable people - was never interested in peace (he has openly bragged and said statements to this effect multiple times), and very thinly veiled his desire for endless war and to eventually settle the whole of Palestine and eradicate their people inch by inch, ever so slowly so that it would never be taken seriously until it was over. He's an agent of chaos and endless violence and he saw 10/7 the same way Republicans saw the Benghazi attack: as a shiny political gift to be exploited for maximum political gain.

[America Needs R'hllor]

the public goodwill from 10/7 is gone at this point. People that were mildly pro-israel before this are turning against them, and that's not only in the US.


Said it before, I'll say it again, fu ck Hamas, fu ck Bibi, stand with civilians, stand with aid workers.

I've become increasingly convinced that the happiest day of Bibi's life was 10/7, b/c he saw an incredible opportunity to accomplish two goals he desperately wants: staying in power and the eradication of every human being in Gaza.

I don't have the energy to go into it, but this is a very big miscalculation of how Bibi works and what he wants. October 7th was not even close to a plus for him staying in power (which is indeed his primary goal and only directive), and he never had any wish to "eradicate everyone in Gaza". He wanted stability and the status quo, and for that reason propping up Hamas worked for him (less pressure for a 2SS). Bibi was pale and panicked on October 7th. It's not that he cares an awful lot for his country, but that day was horrible for him.

You may be right that lately 10/7 has turned out to not be so great for him, but that was very much not the case at the time. Bibi - and I truly believe this is almost beyond argument among reasonable people - was never interested in peace (he has openly bragged and said statements to this effect multiple times), and very thinly veiled his desire for endless war and to eventually settle the whole of Palestine and eradicate their people inch by inch, ever so slowly so that it would never be taken seriously until it was over. He's an agent of chaos and endless violence and he saw 10/7 the same way Republicans saw the Benghazi attack: as a shiny political gift to be exploited for maximum political gain.

You're right that Bibi was never interested in peace. You're wrong that he was interested in October 7th. He was, very notoriously, opposed to any big decisions or shakeups, and championed the status quo. To that end he kept propping up Hamas as a means to divide the Palestinian national movement between Gaza and the West Bank and keep them both on low fire. On October 7th, that backfired massively when we all learned that it's impossible to live with a fanatical, genocidal neighbor. On that day, most people assigned all the blame to him and his entire legacy collapsed.

Now, I'm no Bibi defender. I believe that he is the worst PM of Israel by far and the worst Jewish leader since Bar Kochva. He was a slow, corrosive poison that corrupted Israeli society and politics until we were left as a house bitterly divided, with a weak media that follows every cheap trick of his and a political class full of incompetent sycophants I wouldn't let manage an aviary, let alone one of the most complex countries in the world. But it is important to analyze his many failures and harms through the correct lens.

[Meclazine for Israel]

Who was Senior Commander, Brigadier General Mohammad Reza Zahedi?


No Aprils Fools Joke - Israel killied Iranian military commander Mohammed Reza Zahedi in an airstrike on 1st April 2024 - Mehr News Agency

We look back at the life and times of one of Iran's greatest military leaders.

https://www.thenationalnews.com/news/mena/2024/04/02/who-was-mohammad-reza-zahedi-the-senior-iranian-general-killed-in-damascus/

Born in 1960, Mohammed would live a happy, yet uneventful childhood.

Despite his dull upbringing, things would soon turn for Nohammed with a debut stint in the Iran-Iraq war in 1979.

Following a successful military career, he would eventually rise to the rank of General of the Quds fighting alongside such luminaries as Bashar al-Assad of Syria in their Civil War.

Mohammed described his brutal repression of the civilian population of Syria as his crowning achievement.

Despite his assassination by Israel in 2024, the grand terrorist mastermind behind Hezbollah will be remembered as a family man who was kind to his pets and enjoyed playing the oud at family barbecues.

Mohammad enjoyed listening to Waylon Jennings on the cassette player of his 1970 Chevelle.

His neighbours said of him following his untimely death:

"Easily the most marriable men on this street. All the woman loved and admired him"

R.I.P. Mohammad Reza Zahedi (1960-2024).

[GALeftist]

Israeli war cabinet agreed on increasing humanitarian aid to Gaza, hours after the phone call between Netanyahu and Biden. New aid corridor will open on land, and another on the sea. The IDF is conducting an investigation on the WCK attack and several officers already fired. Pressure works.

I am very glad that this has happened, but it is frankly shameful that this is what it took for Biden to apply sufficient pressure to Israel even though pressure is clearly very effective.

[Ⓐnarchy in the ☭☭☭P!]

Israeli war cabinet agreed on increasing humanitarian aid to Gaza, hours after the phone call between Netanyahu and Biden. New aid corridor will open on land, and another on the sea. The IDF is conducting an investigation on the WCK attack and several officers already fired. Pressure works.

I am very glad that this has happened, but it is frankly shameful that this is what it took for Biden to apply sufficient pressure to Israel even though pressure is clearly very effective.

Kind of kills the idea that Biden was doing everything he could and that he's simply powerless to stop Netanyahu. The IDF applied their usual targeting standards to foreign employees of a DC bigshot instead of Palestinian UNRWA workers and suddenly Joe discovers the ability to force open the land crossings

[PSOL]

Welp, I wanted the Sepahis to fall some other way, but I’ll take what I can get.

Hezbollah’s cowardice proves that all the religious talk is just nonsense. At the end of the day, these people want to live well off of other’s money and don’t expect to want to rush into the ending judgement positively. Meanwhile the more atheistic army of Israel and their secular backers are winning handily against a more irrational force.

[CumbrianLefty]

I mean, its significant just that Israel isn't trying to cover this up like they normally do.

[emailking]

Israeli military fires two senior officers as report finds strike on aid workers was in ‘serious violation of commands’

The IDF fired two senior officers and reprimanded a top commander as it admitted a catalog of failures in a a drone strike on an aid convoy in Gaza, including that it killed aid workers who had survived an initial attack.

The Israel Defense Forces (IDF) said Friday that “those who approved the strike were convinced that they were targeting armed Hamas operatives,” calling the attack “a grave mistake stemming from a serious failure due to a mistaken identification.”

It said the strike was carried out in “serious violation of the commands and IDF Standard Operating Procedures,” and dismissed a major and a colonel in reserve. Three other IDF officials were formally reprimanded; the commanders of the brigade and division involved, and the commander of the Southern Command, who bore “overall responsibility.”

Seven aid workers – three Britons, a Palestinian, a US-Canadian dual citizen, an Australian and a Pole – were killed in Monday’s strikes on cars operated by the World Central Kitchen (WCK), setting off fury in those countries.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/05/middleeast/israel-idf-world-central-kitchen-strike-report-intl/index.html

[GoTfan]

Israeli military fires two senior officers as report finds strike on aid workers was in ‘serious violation of commands’

The IDF fired two senior officers and reprimanded a top commander as it admitted a catalog of failures in a a drone strike on an aid convoy in Gaza, including that it killed aid workers who had survived an initial attack.

The Israel Defense Forces (IDF) said Friday that “those who approved the strike were convinced that they were targeting armed Hamas operatives,” calling the attack “a grave mistake stemming from a serious failure due to a mistaken identification.”

It said the strike was carried out in “serious violation of the commands and IDF Standard Operating Procedures,” and dismissed a major and a colonel in reserve. Three other IDF officials were formally reprimanded; the commanders of the brigade and division involved, and the commander of the Southern Command, who bore “overall responsibility.”

Seven aid workers – three Britons, a Palestinian, a US-Canadian dual citizen, an Australian and a Pole – were killed in Monday’s strikes on cars operated by the World Central Kitchen (WCK), setting off fury in those countries.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/05/middleeast/israel-idf-world-central-kitchen-strike-report-intl/index.html

Not good enough. They need to be court-martialled at a minimum, and that assumes that they're not just being used as scapegoats.

[Stand With Israel. Crush Hamas]

Israeli military fires two senior officers as report finds strike on aid workers was in ‘serious violation of commands’

The IDF fired two senior officers and reprimanded a top commander as it admitted a catalog of failures in a a drone strike on an aid convoy in Gaza, including that it killed aid workers who had survived an initial attack.

The Israel Defense Forces (IDF) said Friday that “those who approved the strike were convinced that they were targeting armed Hamas operatives,” calling the attack “a grave mistake stemming from a serious failure due to a mistaken identification.”

It said the strike was carried out in “serious violation of the commands and IDF Standard Operating Procedures,” and dismissed a major and a colonel in reserve. Three other IDF officials were formally reprimanded; the commanders of the brigade and division involved, and the commander of the Southern Command, who bore “overall responsibility.”

Seven aid workers – three Britons, a Palestinian, a US-Canadian dual citizen, an Australian and a Pole – were killed in Monday’s strikes on cars operated by the World Central Kitchen (WCK), setting off fury in those countries.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/05/middleeast/israel-idf-world-central-kitchen-strike-report-intl/index.html

Not good enough. They need to be court-martialled at a minimum, and that assumes that they're not just being used as scapegoats.

The investigation will likely take a while, but this is a clear first step. Even if they don't wind up convicted, they can't be allowed to stay in control of the division.

[GeneralMacArthur]

Israeli explanation seems plausible but they need to provide an unambiguous, measurable set of changes they are going to make to prevent it from happening again.

Also just in general I think this is a watershed moment and Biden should take the opportunity to maximize pressure on Israel to get the humanitarian situation under control.  We can already see yesterday that he's pushed them to reluctantly open more aid vectors.

[Ⓐnarchy in the ☭☭☭P!]

Israeli military fires two senior officers as report finds strike on aid workers was in ‘serious violation of commands’

The IDF fired two senior officers and reprimanded a top commander as it admitted a catalog of failures in a a drone strike on an aid convoy in Gaza, including that it killed aid workers who had survived an initial attack.

The Israel Defense Forces (IDF) said Friday that “those who approved the strike were convinced that they were targeting armed Hamas operatives,” calling the attack “a grave mistake stemming from a serious failure due to a mistaken identification.”

It said the strike was carried out in “serious violation of the commands and IDF Standard Operating Procedures,” and dismissed a major and a colonel in reserve. Three other IDF officials were formally reprimanded; the commanders of the brigade and division involved, and the commander of the Southern Command, who bore “overall responsibility.”

Seven aid workers – three Britons, a Palestinian, a US-Canadian dual citizen, an Australian and a Pole – were killed in Monday’s strikes on cars operated by the World Central Kitchen (WCK), setting off fury in those countries.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/05/middleeast/israel-idf-world-central-kitchen-strike-report-intl/index.html

Not good enough. They need to be court-martialled at a minimum, and that assumes that they're not just being used as scapegoats.

The investigation will likely take a while, but this is a clear first step. Even if they don't wind up convicted, they can't be allowed to stay in control of the division.

Who gives a sh*t what an investigation led by the Israelis says? Would you trust an investigation of Russian war crimes from Russia or an investigation of Hamas war crimes from Hamas?

There needs to be a full investigation from a reliable third party, not the IDF.

[Horus]

Israeli military fires two senior officers as report finds strike on aid workers was in ‘serious violation of commands’

The IDF fired two senior officers and reprimanded a top commander as it admitted a catalog of failures in a a drone strike on an aid convoy in Gaza, including that it killed aid workers who had survived an initial attack.

The Israel Defense Forces (IDF) said Friday that “those who approved the strike were convinced that they were targeting armed Hamas operatives,” calling the attack “a grave mistake stemming from a serious failure due to a mistaken identification.”

It said the strike was carried out in “serious violation of the commands and IDF Standard Operating Procedures,” and dismissed a major and a colonel in reserve. Three other IDF officials were formally reprimanded; the commanders of the brigade and division involved, and the commander of the Southern Command, who bore “overall responsibility.”

Seven aid workers – three Britons, a Palestinian, a US-Canadian dual citizen, an Australian and a Pole – were killed in Monday’s strikes on cars operated by the World Central Kitchen (WCK), setting off fury in those countries.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/05/middleeast/israel-idf-world-central-kitchen-strike-report-intl/index.html

Not good enough. They need to be court-martialled at a minimum, and that assumes that they're not just being used as scapegoats.

The investigation will likely take a while, but this is a clear first step. Even if they don't wind up convicted, they can't be allowed to stay in control of the division.

Who gives a sh*t what an investigation led by the Israelis says? Would you trust an investigation of Russian war crimes from Russia or an investigation of Hamas war crimes from Hamas?

There needs to be a full investigation from a reliable third party, not the IDF.

The problem is pretty much all reliable third parties are viewed as antisemites by the vast majority of Israeli society. They just don't get it.

[GoTfan]

Israeli explanation seems plausible but they need to provide an unambiguous, measurable set of changes they are going to make to prevent it from happening again.

Also just in general I think this is a watershed moment and Biden should take the opportunity to maximize pressure on Israel to get the humanitarian situation under control.  We can already see yesterday that he's pushed them to reluctantly open more aid vectors.

Thing is, I know that, but it also just feels really slimy to use the deaths of these people for anything.

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

Israeli war cabinet agreed on increasing humanitarian aid to Gaza, hours after the phone call between Netanyahu and Biden. New aid corridor will open on land, and another on the sea. The IDF is conducting an investigation on the WCK attack and several officers already fired. Pressure works.

I am very glad that this has happened, but it is frankly shameful that this is what it took for Biden to apply sufficient pressure to Israel even though pressure is clearly very effective.

Kind of kills the idea that Biden was doing everything he could and that he's simply powerless to stop Netanyahu. The IDF applied their usual targeting standards to foreign employees of a DC bigshot instead of Palestinian UNRWA workers and suddenly Joe discovers the ability to force open the land crossings

I don't really agree. Biden is tied most by US public opinion. US public opinion generally was more pro the entire package until now. Now that Americans are opposed enough to facets of this operation he has the room to move if he wants.

[Beet]

https://twitter.com/justin4all2/status/1776603195814338701?t=ulqFkKybQJzOSzLQM7N...

[Stand With Israel. Crush Hamas]

"Jill Stein 24 Field Director" - okay then.

[quesaisje]

The tweet is just direct quotations from a piece written by a couple of NYT correspondents. Which is a weird way to share an important piece of journalism covering details of a process that most Americans know little about, to be fair, but Atlas can't seem to lay aside the assumption that Twitter is "what's happening"

[Beet]

The tweet is just direct quotations from a piece written by a couple of NYT correspondents. Which is a weird way to share an important piece of journalism covering details of a process that most Americans know little about, to be fair, but Atlas can't seem to lay aside the assumption that Twitter is "what's happening"

At least Twitter is free. The NY Times is sometimes, but since I stopped subscribing to them, I started spending a lot less time directly on their site and that translates into less direct links.

[Ⓐnarchy in the ☭☭☭P!]

Israeli war cabinet agreed on increasing humanitarian aid to Gaza, hours after the phone call between Netanyahu and Biden. New aid corridor will open on land, and another on the sea. The IDF is conducting an investigation on the WCK attack and several officers already fired. Pressure works.

I am very glad that this has happened, but it is frankly shameful that this is what it took for Biden to apply sufficient pressure to Israel even though pressure is clearly very effective.

Kind of kills the idea that Biden was doing everything he could and that he's simply powerless to stop Netanyahu. The IDF applied their usual targeting standards to foreign employees of a DC bigshot instead of Palestinian UNRWA workers and suddenly Joe discovers the ability to force open the land crossings

I don't really agree. Biden is tied most by US public opinion. US public opinion generally was more pro the entire package until now. Now that Americans are opposed enough to facets of this operation he has the room to move if he wants.

Despite what some Democrats seem to think, Joe Biden isn't a powerless old man: he's the President of the United States of America. If he really wanted he could have put his foot down, threatened serious consequences, and gotten concessions. He could have drawn the line at any of the countless atrocities up to this point, though politically the strongest opportunities probably would have either been the 1st Al Shifa raid where babies were pulled from incubators or right after the those hostages in Shujaiya were gunned down by their "rescuers". Instead he repeatedly refused to apply any pressure until people working for Washington DC's favourite chef were triple tapped by the IDF, and even then he had to be basically dragged into doing anything by angry DC elites. Even former members of the Bush administration are openly talking about conditioning aid at this point; imagine being more hardline in your support for Netanyahu than a Condoleezza Rice staffer!

This is the same Joe Biden who said to Menachem Begin in 1982,

“If attacks were launched from Canada into the US, everyone here would have said, ‘Attack all the cities of Canada, and we don’t care if all the civilians get killed.’”

in response Begin, former Irgun terrorist mastermind, had to explain to Joe Biden that killing civilians is bad actually. There's no sign Biden's views have moved an inch since then: Netanyahu could wipe out the Palestinians and he wouldn't care because to him Israeli life is infinitely valuable and Palestinian life is worthless. It's only when his personal acquaintances took action that he reacted. Frankly even Trump would have pulled Netanyahu's leash long before this point.

The tweet is just direct quotations from a piece written by a couple of NYT correspondents. Which is a weird way to share an important piece of journalism covering details of a process that most Americans know little about, to be fair, but Atlas can't seem to lay aside the assumption that Twitter is "what's happening"

I think most of us use Xitter in excess because it's easy to search for news if you know something happened but don't have a good source and more importantly because it embeds nicely and is visible to guests

[Silent Hunter]

The US President is one of the less powerful heads of government in what he can actually do, because of the power of Congress. Biden can't even get a full budget passed because of the Republican control of the House of Representatives.

[Agafin]

Israeli military reduces troops in southern Gaza, spokesperson says

JERUSALEM, April 7 (Reuters) - The Israeli military has withdrawn all ground troops from the southern Gaza Strip except for one brigade, a military spokesperson said on Sunday.

The military did not immediately provide further details. It was unclear whether the withdrawal would delay a long-threatened incursion into the southern Gaza city of Rafah, which Israeli leaders have said is needed to eliminate Hamas.

The withdrawal comes as Egypt prepares to host a new round of talks aimed at reaching a ceasefire and hostage release deal.

Looks like the long awaited ceasefire is finally here. Interestingly, the fact that this is only in the South makes it clear that the strip might be permanently split.

[GoTfan]

Israeli military reduces troops in southern Gaza, spokesperson says

JERUSALEM, April 7 (Reuters) - The Israeli military has withdrawn all ground troops from the southern Gaza Strip except for one brigade, a military spokesperson said on Sunday.

The military did not immediately provide further details. It was unclear whether the withdrawal would delay a long-threatened incursion into the southern Gaza city of Rafah, which Israeli leaders have said is needed to eliminate Hamas.

The withdrawal comes as Egypt prepares to host a new round of talks aimed at reaching a ceasefire and hostage release deal.

Looks like the long awaited ceasefire is finally here. Interestingly, the fact that this is only in the South makes it clear that the strip might be permanently split.

I wonder what provoked this. Does Israel genuinely fear losing US support now or is it just a case of them having achieved their immediate objectives?

[Silent Hunter]

They might want to rest their forces in any event.

Israel said it was going to attack Rafah if the hostages were not released before the start of Ramadan. It's now almost over.

[Meclazine for Israel]

Rishi still supporting Israel's war on Hamas.

Midnight Rider

https://www.instagram.com/p/C5cn5vgLne8/

Will be interesting to see if the US, UK and Australia are still big supporters of Israel if they have a barney with Iran.