Israel-Gaza war

[American2020]

Beware fake tweets.

https://twitter.com/Sawablb/status/1715064141482725538

[American2020]

https://twitter.com/arash_tehran/status/1715354932595847322

[Meclazine for Israel]

Israel are slowly leaking pieces of information about what Gaza will look like post-war.

1. No Hamas - totally removed and infrastructure destroyed - political, financial, military.
2. 300m loss of land inside the Gaza border for security wall barrier.
3. No responsibility for whatever occurs inside those walls.

Israel will provide no water, no electricity, no jobs or skills training, will ignore the citizens of Gaza after this ends.

Israel will not occupy Gaza.

The obvious question is what will Israel do to prevent Gaza from re-militarisation from Iran.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-10-20/israel-gaza-war-live-updates-latest-news/102999804#live-blog-post-55559

YouTube geopolitical expert, Peter Zeihan, discusses what he thinks of the current situation.

WW3 or Small Conflict

https://youtu.be/OagYlYna75Y?feature=shared

[Lief 🗽]

Everyone really needs to stop believing the hysterical claims coming out of Hamas-controlled Gaza until there’s been at least a day or two to verify them.
https://twitter.com/osinttechnical/status/1715367749206024513?s=46&t=o2RmfeV...

[strangerinthealps]

Everyone really needs to stop believing the hysterical claims coming out of Hamas-controlled Gaza until there’s been at least a day or two to verify them.

Where's the fun in that?

Hands up, don't shoot!

[Stand With Israel. Crush Hamas]

Everyone really needs to stop believing the hysterical claims coming out of Hamas-controlled Gaza until there’s been at least a day or two to verify them.
https://twitter.com/osinttechnical/status/1715367749206024513?s=46&t=o2RmfeV...

They got what they wanted out of the first one, so I doubt they'll stop now.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Everyone really needs to stop believing the hysterical claims coming out of Hamas-controlled Gaza until there’s been at least a day or two to verify them.
https://twitter.com/osinttechnical/status/1715367749206024513?s=46&t=o2RmfeV6yYJk03d3uHYf-g

Yeah this was another fake news story that even spread before the "hospital bombing".

[Red Velvet]

Israel is a pariah for the youth. Very cool numbers here!

https://twitter.com/GrittyGetLitty/status/1715168690004435168?t=pzKBVro8r9yppkI4...

The generational gap really is giant inside the West regarding this. I’m 29 and naturally I see more young people on social media and they all support Palestine quite intensely. Some openly call for Israel’s erasure as this protest in a San Francisco school shows: “Palestine from river to sea”

https://twitter.com/TheEliKlein/status/1715002198550257918
The geriatric crowd is the one that stans Israel and who controls the media though, bashing left-wing politicians like Jeremy Corbyn or anyone who supports Palestinian rights as “anti-semitic”, something the high schoolers see as bullsh**t and don’t eat up at all. Considering people generally live inside a generational bubble, each side falsely believes they’re a consensus on the matter.

“Conservative Liberals” are shooting themselves in the foot by directly opposing a base of theirs by assuming it’s only old-school leftists who back Palestine. These days, nothing could be further from the truth. Old people like republicans more anyway, so useless to cater to them.

[Middle-aged Europe]

Israel are slowly leaking pieces of information about what Gaza will look like post-war.

1. No Hamas - totally removed and infrastructure destroyed - political, financial, military.
2. 300m loss of land inside the Gaza border for security wall barrier.
3. No responsibility for whatever occurs inside those walls.

Israel will provide no water, no electricity, no jobs or skills training citizens for Gaza after this ends.

Israel will not occupy Gaza.

The obvious question is what will Israel do to prevent Gaza from re-militarisation from Iran.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-10-20/israel-gaza-war-live-updates-latest-news/102999804#live-blog-post-55559

YouTube geopolitical expert, Peter Zeihan, discusses what he thinks of the current situation.

WW3 or Small Conflict

https://youtu.be/OagYlYna75Y?feature=shared

If Gaza supposed to become like Manhattan in Escape from New York I would point out how that movie played out. But maybe a bunch of terrorists hijacking and deliberately crash-landing the plane of the politician responsible for creating the "prison" in the first place could serve as foreshadowing as well.

[Birdish]

Create a DMZ around Gaza, wash their hands of any involvement and pray Egypt steps in?

[Meclazine for Israel]

NBC Report on Israel's famed defence technology.

The Iron Dome

https://youtu.be/nTitN4qLXSE

Each Israeli missile is $50,000 to build store and fire.

Hamas has fired over 6,500 rocket's, 90% of who have been intercepted.

So Israel have spent $300M on the Iron Dome so far in this conflict.

[Vosem]

The general issue is that among younger people there are far more undecideds, not huge pro-Palestine majorities or whatever. Old people are catered to partially because there are more of them, and in the modern West trying to appeal to a younger electorate always means shooting yourself in the foot, but also because they've made up their minds.

My vantage point on social media is that anti-Israel sentiment peaked circa 2014 in terms of how widely it was shared and has since fallen off, with left-wing pro-Israel sentiment picking up momentum and pro-Israel campus organizations staffing multiple Democratic primary campaigns in 2019-2020, particularly those of Buttigieg and Biden. But it might be that I lived in a community with many Arab-Americans in 2014 and then went to a college campus with an unusually active pro-Israel organizing even among liberal non-Jews. In polling of Americans, Israel made enormous gains between about 2001 and 2018 -- mostly concentrated on the right -- but since then gains on the left in sympathy for Palestine have probably been able to cancel continued increases in sympathy for Israel on the right. We'll see what the impact from this is -- generally renewed conflict with the Palestinians has been good for Israel in public opinion polling. But also, of course, opinion among journalists/State Department employees/NGOs is also a thing, beyond just the opinion of the public.

[Ferguson97]

https://twitter.com/jenniferjjacobs/status/1715420804869918922?s=46&t=kjGKwM...

Wow

[Associate Justice PiT]

Everyone really needs to stop believing the hysterical claims coming out of Hamas-controlled Gaza until there’s been at least a day or two to verify them.
https://twitter.com/osinttechnical/status/1715367749206024513?s=46&t=o2RmfeV...

     Interestingly, I notice now that the claims from sources that actually had inside knowledge never said the church itself fell, but rather social halls that the community was using. It's not a nothing-burger, but the media fumbled the ball once again in reporting on the story.

[oldtimer]

Israel are slowly leaking pieces of information about what Gaza will look like post-war.

1. No Hamas - totally removed and infrastructure destroyed - political, financial, military.
2. 300m loss of land inside the Gaza border for security wall barrier.
3. No responsibility for whatever occurs inside those walls.

Israel will provide no water, no electricity, no jobs or skills training citizens for Gaza after this ends.

Israel will not occupy Gaza.

The obvious question is what will Israel do to prevent Gaza from re-militarisation from Iran.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-10-20/israel-gaza-war-live-updates-latest-news/102999804#live-blog-post-55559

YouTube geopolitical expert, Peter Zeihan, discusses what he thinks of the current situation.

WW3 or Small Conflict

https://youtu.be/OagYlYna75Y?feature=shared

America also leaking what it expects:

https://www.politico.eu/article/gaza-ground-war-israel-mogadishu-on-steroids-former-us-general-director-cia-david-petraeus/

"A military ground offensive by the Israel Defense Forces in the Gaza Strip would last years and involve horrific fighting"

[Middle-aged Europe]

I'm ironically using a tweet to pass this on.

Top Israel/Hamas misinformation spreaders use Elon Musk’s paid “verification”
Report: 74% of X's most viral misinformation posts are from "verified" users.

https://twitter.com/arstechnica/status/1715424861575688274

[dead0man]

Everyone really needs to stop believing the hysterical claims coming out of Hamas-controlled Gaza until there’s been at least a day or two to verify them.

Where's the fun in that?

Hands up, don't shoot!

the Venn diagram of people who are "anti-Zionist" and the people who believe Michael Brown was murdered by the police has a TON of overlap.

[strangerinthealps]

Israel are slowly leaking pieces of information about what Gaza will look like post-war.

1. No Hamas - totally removed and infrastructure destroyed - political, financial, military.
2. 300m loss of land inside the Gaza border for security wall barrier.
3. No responsibility for whatever occurs inside those walls.

Israel will provide no water, no electricity, no jobs or skills training citizens for Gaza after this ends.

Israel will not occupy Gaza.

The obvious question is what will Israel do to prevent Gaza from re-militarisation from Iran.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-10-20/israel-gaza-war-live-updates-latest-news/102999804#live-blog-post-55559

YouTube geopolitical expert, Peter Zeihan, discusses what he thinks of the current situation.

WW3 or Small Conflict

https://youtu.be/OagYlYna75Y?feature=shared

America also leaking what it expects:

https://www.politico.eu/article/gaza-ground-war-israel-mogadishu-on-steroids-former-us-general-director-cia-david-petraeus/

"A military ground offensive by the Israel Defense Forces in the Gaza Strip would last years and involve horrific fighting"

Battle of Mogadishu was a ****show, but we won it in every metric except public perception.

The targets were captured (though several were killed by friendly fire from the Skinnies), all operational goals were met, and we lost 19 troops while inflicting between 300-700 against the enemy, in a battle between roughly 160 US Troops with Air Support and 4000 Skinny Militia.

Now, no doubt, losing 18 Americans (and a Malaysian) on a Humanitarian Mission to distribute food to Somalis is not exactly gut check time. Why would we stay?

Also, should US/UN forces have been used to prosecute a personal grudge of the UN Secretary General against the Aidid Militia? Don't get me wrong, the guy is a world class scumbag, but I'm not sure that fell within the scope of the mission.

Regardless, and even though it was a complete cluster from the time they disembarked, our soldiers won that battle. I hate that the public perception is otherwise.

If Aidid had killed 1500 US Civilians, is there any doubt that we would have eliminated him and his entire militia within days?

Tactically, Mogadishu is a fair comparison, but I feel like it is being used as a boogey-man here...

I DID serve under Petraeus and respect his opinion, but the entire problem with his approach was wanting to stay in and do nation building. Counterinsurgency is not part of the operation.

In both Afghanistan and Iraq, we had effectively achieved our tactical goals within the first year or less. We should have gotten out within 2 years.

[OSR stands with Israel]

Israel is a pariah for the youth. Very cool numbers here!

https://twitter.com/GrittyGetLitty/status/1715168690004435168?t=pzKBVro8r9yppkI4...

The generational gap really is giant inside the West regarding this. I’m 29 and naturally I see more young people on social media and they all support Palestine quite intensely. Some openly call for Israel’s erasure as this protest in a San Francisco school shows: “Palestine from river to sea”

https://twitter.com/TheEliKlein/status/1715002198550257918
The geriatric crowd is the one that stans Israel and who controls the media though, bashing left-wing politicians like Jeremy Corbyn or anyone who supports Palestinian rights as “anti-semitic”, something the high schoolers see as bullsh**t and don’t eat up at all. Considering people generally live inside a generational bubble, each side falsely believes they’re a consensus on the matter.

“Conservative Liberals” are shooting themselves in the foot by directly opposing a base of theirs by assuming it’s only old-school leftists who back Palestine. These days, nothing could be further from the truth. Old people like republicans more anyway, so useless to cater to them.

That chant is deeply deeply anti semitic and yeah those students should be treated the same way as any student who chants other racist slurs get treated.

[Snowstalker Mk. II]

https://twitter.com/mehdirhasan/status/1715429352697934331?t=b_BRoq9DRcwSl5eOxn8...

[Vosem]

https://twitter.com/eigenrobot/status/1715377756865733008

It appears that the gentleman who published the hospital story for the New York Times agrees with me on the moral equivalence of Palestinian liberationism and Nazism!

[oldtimer]

Israel are slowly leaking pieces of information about what Gaza will look like post-war.

1. No Hamas - totally removed and infrastructure destroyed - political, financial, military.
2. 300m loss of land inside the Gaza border for security wall barrier.
3. No responsibility for whatever occurs inside those walls.

Israel will provide no water, no electricity, no jobs or skills training citizens for Gaza after this ends.

Israel will not occupy Gaza.

The obvious question is what will Israel do to prevent Gaza from re-militarisation from Iran.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-10-20/israel-gaza-war-live-updates-latest-news/102999804#live-blog-post-55559

YouTube geopolitical expert, Peter Zeihan, discusses what he thinks of the current situation.

WW3 or Small Conflict

https://youtu.be/OagYlYna75Y?feature=shared

America also leaking what it expects:

https://www.politico.eu/article/gaza-ground-war-israel-mogadishu-on-steroids-former-us-general-director-cia-david-petraeus/

"A military ground offensive by the Israel Defense Forces in the Gaza Strip would last years and involve horrific fighting"

Battle of Mogadishu was a ****show, but we won it in every metric except public perception.

The targets were captured (though several were killed by friendly fire from the Skinnies), all operational goals were met, and we lost 19 troops while inflicting between 300-700 against the enemy, in a battle between roughly 160 US Troops with Air Support and 4000 Skinny Militia.

Now, no doubt, losing 18 Americans (and a Malaysian) on a Humanitarian Mission to distribute food to Somalis is not exactly gut check time. Why would we stay?

Also, should US/UN forces have been used to prosecute a personal grudge of the UN Secretary General against the Aidid Militia? Don't get me wrong, the guy is a world class scumbag, but I'm not sure that fell within the scope of the mission.

Regardless, and even though it was a complete cluster from the time they disembarked, our soldiers won that battle. I hate that the public perception is otherwise.

If Aidid had killed 1500 US Civilians, is there any doubt that we would have eliminated him and his entire militia within days?

Tactically, Mogadishu is a fair comparison, but I feel like it is being used as a boogey-man here...

I DID serve under Petraeus and respect his opinion, but the entire problem with his approach was wanting to stay in and do nation building. Counterinsurgency is not part of the operation.

In both Afghanistan and Iraq, we had effectively achieved our tactical goals within the first year or less. We should have gotten out within 2 years.

More leaks alongside Petraeus estimate of 10 years:

https://www.newyorker.com/news/letter-from-bidens-washington/the-week-when-biden-hugged-bibi

"How grim? Some senior Israeli officials told the Americans to expect a war that could last as long as ten years."

I dont think American public support would last 10 months of war in the Middle East, certainly not 10 years.

[Snowstalker Mk. II]

https://twitter.com/MiddleEastMnt/status/1715025366329270677?t=xZWBNcOYr22BuxQW-...

[strangerinthealps]

https://twitter.com/mehdirhasan/status/1715429352697934331?t=b_BRoq9DRcwSl5eOxn8...

[Jingizu]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russias-draft-resolution-on-israel-failed-to-mention-hamas-defeated-at-un/ar-AA1ijQVR

Russia actually took a stronger stance against Israel and that is why it abstained on Brazil's proposal.

Boy, all that hand-wringing from the Israeli government about how they just had to stay neutral on Ukraine vs Russia because of Reasons™️ and they can’t even get a condemnation of Hamas from Russia when they need it most. Great geopolitical strategy, Likudniks!