Between Clinton and Trump, who deserved to be impeached?
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Question: As we all know, Bill Clinton and Donald Trump are the two post-1992 Presidents who were actually impeached. Which of them deserved their respective impeachments?
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Both did
 
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Only Clinton did
 
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Only Trump did
 
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Neither did
 
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« on: October 01, 2023, 07:34:51 PM »

For the purposes of this thread, please limit the focus to these two individuals only and refrain from discussing other presidents during this time period who were never actually impeached.
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« Reply #1 on: October 01, 2023, 07:36:42 PM »

Only Trump did, but I'd still support conviction for both anyway once it started.
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« Reply #2 on: October 01, 2023, 07:41:00 PM »

Both, as did Reagan, Bush I (during the Reagan years), and Bush II at minimum.
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« Reply #3 on: October 01, 2023, 08:21:38 PM »

Obviously only Trump.  Even under the most critical possible view of Clinton, comparing him to Trump because both were impeached is like comparing a shoplifter and a mass murderer since both committed crimes.
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« Reply #4 on: October 01, 2023, 10:22:13 PM »

both did
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« Reply #5 on: October 01, 2023, 11:01:02 PM »

Only Trump, though Clinton should've been censured.
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« Reply #6 on: October 01, 2023, 11:45:30 PM »

Trump only
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« Reply #7 on: October 02, 2023, 11:11:39 PM »

Impeachment isn't something you "deserve" except in extreme cases. It's a political consequence of upsetting the House majority.
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« Reply #8 on: October 03, 2023, 07:26:52 AM »

Both. The Democratic party not hanging Clinton out to dry and letting him continue to be a public face of the party was one of the most disastrous political miscalculations in US history and we're only just beginning to recover from its consequences
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« Reply #9 on: October 03, 2023, 01:47:28 PM »

Only Trump did.

The impeachment of Bill Clinton was a political stunt by the Republicans.
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« Reply #10 on: October 03, 2023, 06:54:22 PM »

Only Trump did.

The impeachment of Bill Clinton was a political stunt by the Republicans.

Exactly.  And it stuns me that it apparently has a great deal of support on this forum.
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« Reply #11 on: October 04, 2023, 01:08:10 AM »

Clinton was a massive POS, but the Lewinsky scandal wasn’t impeachment worthy
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« Reply #12 on: October 04, 2023, 02:51:54 AM »

Trump's impeachments were 'high crimes and misdemeanors' and in both cases he abused his position as President to betray the people. Bill Clinton's actions embarassed himself but just weren't that serious.
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« Reply #13 on: October 04, 2023, 10:32:31 AM »

Neither did. 
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« Reply #14 on: October 04, 2023, 12:06:58 PM »

both, they both lowered the dignity of the office w their behavior
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« Reply #15 on: October 04, 2023, 05:03:30 PM »

Both. The Democratic party not hanging Clinton out to dry and letting him continue to be a public face of the party was one of the most disastrous political miscalculations in US history and we're only just beginning to recover from its consequences

It was the first one that had the chance of two full terms since Truman and the first officially re-elected since FDR, I can't say I blame them, and he dug them out of the post-'68 wilderness where Carter never quite could.

Still, I do think Gore would be easily elected and carry quite a few more states better if he had already been incumbent.
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« Reply #16 on: October 05, 2023, 01:33:37 PM »

Neither.
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« Reply #17 on: October 05, 2023, 06:28:16 PM »


What would be an impeachable offence then? Using the Presidency to encourage a foreign government to interfere in the campaign, and trying to illegally overturn the election result and even endangering the safety of Congress to do so, that doesn't cut it?!
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« Reply #18 on: October 05, 2023, 08:08:53 PM »

Both. The Democratic party not hanging Clinton out to dry and letting him continue to be a public face of the party was one of the most disastrous political miscalculations in US history and we're only just beginning to recover from its consequences

It was the first one that had the chance of two full terms since Truman and the first officially re-elected since FDR, I can't say I blame them, and he dug them out of the post-'68 wilderness where Carter never quite could.

Still, I do think Gore would be easily elected and carry quite a few more states better if he had already been incumbent.

Also, associating with Clinton meant associating with the great 1990s economy. The public only reconsidered his presidency in 2016 when Hillary Clinton ran-her unpopularity rubbed off on him.
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« Reply #19 on: October 05, 2023, 09:49:55 PM »

Though Trump's offenses were much worse, they both deserved to be impeached.
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« Reply #20 on: October 06, 2023, 11:06:07 PM »

Both of them. They both committed very obvious perjury and obstruction of justice and got away with it solely due to partisan rally-the-flag effect.
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« Reply #21 on: October 06, 2023, 11:58:49 PM »

Only Trump did
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