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« Reply #150 on: May 06, 2007, 03:29:05 pm »

Royal was surprisingly strong in Brittany and overseas despite losing.
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« Reply #151 on: May 06, 2007, 05:08:23 pm »

As Stephen Colbert put it, "It's progress when even the French hate the French".
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« Reply #152 on: May 06, 2007, 06:49:59 pm »

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« Reply #153 on: May 06, 2007, 07:05:00 pm »

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« Reply #154 on: May 06, 2007, 07:06:18 pm »

I still hate the French but I guess I can agree with them/applaud them for something.  Tongue

I never have rooted against the French, which is why I am happy they voted to be relevant once more and show some backbone.  It is strange France and Germany are allies now, whereas Italy and Spain not so much.
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« Reply #155 on: May 06, 2007, 08:08:43 pm »

This result is what I expected, unlike the first round (where I predicted Le Pen to beat Bayrou for third place Tongue). Check out this hilariously biased AP article. One of many gems within:

The 52-year-old former interior minister inherits a nation losing faith in itself, paralyzed by worries over globalization, bitter at American dominance and saddled with social tensions.
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« Reply #156 on: May 06, 2007, 08:57:56 pm »

This result is what I expected, unlike the first round (where I predicted Le Pen to beat Bayrou for third place Tongue). Check out this hilariously biased AP article. One of many gems within:

The 52-year-old former interior minister inherits a nation losing faith in itself, paralyzed by worries over globalization, bitter at American dominance and saddled with social tensions.

Wow, thank you AP and CBS News for making yourselves look completely foolish. Half the article was just talking about how pro-American Sarkozy is and the other half talked about the "Arab and African immigrants" and all that rubbish. Now I know why I get most of my news from foreigners.
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« Reply #157 on: May 06, 2007, 10:32:48 pm »

Based on final predictions and unofficial results

Tobias Beecher was first.

Sam Spade was second.

Phil and I shared third place.

Gustaf  and Lewis shared fourth.

Gabu was fifth.

Sarkozy was sixth.

Tender Branson was seventh.

Bacon King was eighth.

Couldn't find predictions for Umengus or Dave.

Everyone correctly predicted the winner, and most predictions were acceptably close to actual results.

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« Reply #158 on: May 06, 2007, 11:06:39 pm »

What encouraging words he offered, let's hope France can come together and we can all work together to mend the mess the last 40 years has been.
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« Reply #159 on: May 06, 2007, 11:29:29 pm »

What encouraging words he offered, let's hope France can come together and we can all work together to mend the mess the last 40 years has been.

Hear, hear. I look forward to a France that will be a real ally. I'll still dislike the French though with the exception of Sarkozy because he's just awesome.  Tongue
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« Reply #160 on: May 06, 2007, 11:36:15 pm »

I know next to nothing about French politics. Is the SW usually where the Socialist do best. Anybody know why?
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« Reply #161 on: May 06, 2007, 11:48:42 pm »

Hear, hear. I look forward to a France that will be a real ally. I'll still dislike the French though with the exception of Sarkozy because he's just awesome.  Tongue

No credit to the 53.1% who carried him?
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« Reply #162 on: May 06, 2007, 11:51:21 pm »

Hear, hear. I look forward to a France that will be a real ally. I'll still dislike the French though with the exception of Sarkozy because he's just awesome.  Tongue

No credit to the 53.1% who carried him?

I knew that was coming. The answer is still no. I guess I can applaud them for some of their political positions but I just have an overall extreme distaste for the French. Their arrogance and rather snobby and rude behavior makes me physically ill but that's not the point here. They did a good job yesterday.
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« Reply #163 on: May 06, 2007, 11:55:55 pm »

Found this and lold:

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« Reply #164 on: May 07, 2007, 12:58:42 am »

This is how the Big French Regions voted:

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« Reply #165 on: May 07, 2007, 01:00:53 am »

http://www.lemonde.fr/web/article/0,1-0@2-823448,36-906398@51-906165,0.html

According to Le Monde, Sarkozy plans to appoint a new prime minister on May 19 or 20 to prepare for the legislatives in June. Who would be the most likely candidate, François Fillon?

I think that the UMP is most likely to have a majority in June, but what if they don't? Is it completely unimaginable to see the UMP fall short of 50%, with the rest divided among the UDF and the PS? In that case, what would happen? Would the UMP and the UDF form a coalition (all of the UDF deputies supported Sarkozy during the second round), or would there be a deadlock between the UMP and the PS? If there is a deadlock, would it be possible for Bayrou to emerge as a compromise candidate?

With France moving closer to a three-party system, I think the next few elections will be very interesting...
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« Reply #166 on: May 07, 2007, 01:43:29 am »

I knew that was coming. The answer is still no. I guess I can applaud them for some of their political positions but I just have an overall extreme distaste for the French. Their arrogance and rather snobby and rude behavior makes me physically ill but that's not the point here. They did a good job yesterday.

Have you actually known any, personally?
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« Reply #167 on: May 07, 2007, 02:46:04 am »

I still hate the French but I guess I can agree with them/applaud them for something.  Tongue

It's all right to hate the French, because no matter who you are, you can rest assured that they hate you too. Wink


Mine wasn't exactly a serious prediction.
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« Reply #168 on: May 07, 2007, 03:23:57 am »

http://www.alterniawhatif.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=699&st=0

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« Reply #169 on: May 07, 2007, 03:37:41 am »


I can safely say that everyone within that topic is retarded.
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« Reply #170 on: May 07, 2007, 03:45:38 am »

Even IRV would have almost certainly eliminated him, but he WAS also beyond reasonable doubt the Condorcet winner.
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« Reply #171 on: May 07, 2007, 07:56:30 am »


The very fact that they believe that Bayrou stole the election from her is clearly retarded. Going to the point of saying 53-47 was close is retarded. I forgot the rest.
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« Reply #172 on: May 07, 2007, 09:50:11 am »


The very fact that they believe that Bayrou stole the election from her is clearly retarded. Going to the point of saying 53-47 was close is retarded. I forgot the rest.
53-47 is close.
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« Reply #173 on: May 07, 2007, 10:01:24 am »

http://www.lemonde.fr/web/article/0,1-0@2-823448,36-906398@51-906165,0.html

According to Le Monde, Sarkozy plans to appoint a new prime minister on May 19 or 20 to prepare for the legislatives in June. Who would be the most likely candidate, François Fillon?

I think that the UMP is most likely to have a majority in June, but what if they don't? Is it completely unimaginable to see the UMP fall short of 50%, with the rest divided among the UDF and the PS? In that case, what would happen? Would the UMP and the UDF form a coalition (all of the UDF deputies supported Sarkozy during the second round), or would there be a deadlock between the UMP and the PS? If there is a deadlock, would it be possible for Bayrou to emerge as a compromise candidate?

With France moving closer to a three-party system, I think the next few elections will be very interesting...

Bayrou will not be running with the UDF; some of the current UDFers will probably join the UMP while others will follow him. His new party is the MD (Democratic Movement).

There apparently already was a tiny Parti Democrate in France, so Bayrou's new party is the Mouvement Democrate.
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« Reply #174 on: May 07, 2007, 10:15:31 am »

6-point victory in France is quite considerable
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