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« Reply #650 on: October 03, 2023, 10:19:08 PM »



Nah this sh**t is straight out of House of Cards.
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« Reply #651 on: October 03, 2023, 10:55:35 PM »

This is at the top of the front page of Fox News's website right now instead of McCarthy's outstered.

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« Reply #652 on: October 03, 2023, 11:02:41 PM »

The last five GOP speakers have been:

- A sleazy sociopath

- A pedophile

- A crybaby

- Paul Ryan

- The only Speaker to ever be ousted, with members of his own party being the decisive votes

Real group of winners here!
I'm pretty sure that the first 3 descriptions apply to several of the past few Republican speakers
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« Reply #653 on: October 03, 2023, 11:09:45 PM »

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« Reply #654 on: October 03, 2023, 11:19:52 PM »



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« Reply #655 on: October 03, 2023, 11:38:08 PM »




Every Republican in Washington is a dick, exhibit # 9,341.
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« Reply #656 on: October 04, 2023, 12:01:18 AM »

Interim speaker's very first action is to own a lib (Pelosi), who is busy attending a funeral. Fitting for today's GOP. They have their priorities straight.
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« Reply #657 on: October 04, 2023, 01:02:51 AM »

What did just happen? Is the GOP completely crazy?

Yes.
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« Reply #658 on: October 04, 2023, 01:36:04 AM »

If the message isn't clear enough, stop voting for Republicans. The party has no real platform; it is incompetent; it offers no real solutions.

They do not have the country's best interests at heart.
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« Reply #659 on: October 04, 2023, 01:38:09 AM »

Actually now would be the time for a national snap election for the House. The GOP "majority" is just a nominal one that exists on paper, but is unable to function. Either voters give them a bigger advantage or put Dems back in power. Latter would be logical; Pelosi was able to run the show with the same number of seats.

That said, I don't feel sorry for McCarthy. He should have seen this coming and reach out to Dems saving his a**. But you can't go on national TV just days ahead and blame the entire situation on them and then hope somehow they come along to save you from your own conference. Anyone - including part of the media - blaming Dems is just being hypocritical and an absolute partisan hack.
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« Reply #660 on: October 04, 2023, 01:48:20 AM »

If the message isn't clear enough, stop voting for Republicans. The party has no real platform; it is incompetent; it offers no real solutions.

They do not have the country's best interests at heart.

Sadly, for enough people the GOP doesn't need a platform, "owning the libs" is enough of an argument to vote for them. The culture war BS is a pure distraction from the real issues they have no answers to.
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« Reply #661 on: October 04, 2023, 02:10:07 AM »

If the message isn't clear enough, stop voting for Republicans. The party has no real platform; it is incompetent; it offers no real solutions.

They do not have the country's best interests at heart.

Sadly, for enough people the GOP doesn't need a platform, "owning the libs" is enough of an argument to vote for them. The culture war BS is a pure distraction from the real issues they have no answers to.

Social Issues such as Abortion is why the Democrats overperformed in 2022 though. Republicans had the advantage on the economy throughout the year so really Democrats should thank that voters didnt vote on the economy in 2022 , otherwise 2022 would be a red wave .

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« Reply #662 on: October 04, 2023, 02:12:10 AM »



I'm genuinely not sure I've ever heard Ari Fleischer open his mouth and say something this....true before.
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« Reply #663 on: October 04, 2023, 02:13:41 AM »

If the message isn't clear enough, stop voting for Republicans. The party has no real platform; it is incompetent; it offers no real solutions.

They do not have the country's best interests at heart.

Sadly, for enough people the GOP doesn't need a platform, "owning the libs" is enough of an argument to vote for them. The culture war BS is a pure distraction from the real issues they have no answers to.

Social Issues such as Abortion is why the Democrats overperformed in 2022 though. Republicans had the advantage on the economy throughout the year so really Democrats should thank that voters didnt vote on the economy in 2022 , otherwise 2022 would be a red wave .

Maybe the fact that Republicans just complained about the economy without proposing anything resembling a solution had something to do with this.
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« Reply #664 on: October 04, 2023, 02:18:49 AM »

Actually now would be the time for a national snap election for the House. The GOP "majority" is just a nominal one that exists on paper, but is unable to function. Either voters give them a bigger advantage or put Dems back in power. Latter would be logical; Pelosi was able to run the show with the same number of seats.


Well , the Democrats also control the White House which makes it much easier to deal with such a small majority as the Democrats are able to use potential EO's and favorable executive appointments to get everyone on board. The GOP does not have that right now which makes it much harder to appease certain members.

I would agree though that the GOP House is more or less the GOP minority gov with them getting "supply and confidence" from the tea party.
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« Reply #665 on: October 04, 2023, 02:27:17 AM »

If the message isn't clear enough, stop voting for Republicans. The party has no real platform; it is incompetent; it offers no real solutions.

They do not have the country's best interests at heart.

Sadly, for enough people the GOP doesn't need a platform, "owning the libs" is enough of an argument to vote for them. The culture war BS is a pure distraction from the real issues they have no answers to.

Social Issues such as Abortion is why the Democrats overperformed in 2022 though. Republicans had the advantage on the economy throughout the year so really Democrats should thank that voters didnt vote on the economy in 2022 , otherwise 2022 would be a red wave .

Maybe the fact that Republicans just complained about the economy without proposing anything resembling a solution had something to do with this.

Voters who cited the economy as the issue they voted on, voted for the GOP though. The GOP just lost on the major non economic issues of that election and Jan 6th and Dobbs made those issues more important then they usually are

That is how midterm campaigns are usually run though with the exception of 1994. Parties dont really present a platform at all.

In 2006, the Democrats just ran against the GOP record on Iraq without really giving their plans for it and won a huge wave

In 2010 and 2014, the GOP rode a wave of economic discontent to huge waves without really mentioning much of what they would do

In 2018 the Democrats won back the House based on anger with the GOP trying to repeal the ACA.

The GOP just effectively tried the same strategy as opposition parties used in the past 4 midterms, but Dobbs as well as Trumpist candidates denying the results of the 2020 election made election denialism a big issue as well.
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« Reply #666 on: October 04, 2023, 02:36:31 AM »
« Edited: October 04, 2023, 02:53:29 AM by Mr.Barkari Sellers »

If the message isn't clear enough, stop voting for Republicans. The party has no real platform; it is incompetent; it offers no real solutions.

They do not have the country's best interests at heart.

Sadly, for enough people the GOP doesn't need a platform, "owning the libs" is enough of an argument to vote for them. The culture war BS is a pure distraction from the real issues they have no answers to.

Social Issues such as Abortion is why the Democrats overperformed in 2022 though. Republicans had the advantage on the economy throughout the year so really Democrats should thank that voters didnt vote on the economy in 2022 , otherwise 2022 would be a red wave .

Maybe the fact that Republicans just complained about the economy without proposing anything resembling a solution had something to do with this.

Voters who cited the economy as the issue they voted on, voted for the GOP though. The GOP just lost on the major non economic issues of that election and Jan 6th and Dobbs made those issues more important then they usually are

That is how midterm campaigns are usually run though with the exception of 1994. Parties dont really present a platform at all.

In 2006, the Democrats just ran against the GOP record on Iraq without really giving their plans for it and won a huge wave

In 2010 and 2014, the GOP rode a wave of economic discontent to huge waves without really mentioning much of what they would do

In 2018 the Democrats won back the House based on anger with the GOP trying to repeal the ACA.

The GOP just effectively tried the same strategy as opposition parties used in the past 4 midterms, but Dobbs as well as Trumpist candidates denying the results of the 2020 election made election denialism a big issue as well.

You do realize there was a Recession in 1991 when Clinton won and 2008 Great Recession Environment and 20 Great Recession 20 Pandemic that's why Rs keep losing and Trump being an INDICTED FELON makes it worse

That's why Ds outperform polls because of the Great Recession in 20 2.0 that's why we are competetive in KY, MS and LA R 22 states and we were swept in 2014 with Obama at 45 like Biden

1992 Typewriter became computer and 2008 Cell phones replaced landlines and 20 online school replace Classroom in Grad School no Pell Grants in Grad school can't afford 50 K tuition

That's why Newsom beat the recall yes YOUNGKIN won on the Omnicron varient by 2 pts, Elder was supposed to get way more than 9 percentage pts of blk vote in the Recall not 22 Gov Eday

Rs aren't gonna win the S and win the H and capture the Prez in this Environment, Oprah and Trump have 90 percentage pts of wealth, entertainment has 5 and we own 5, Oprah and Trump worth 5B each but Oprah is a D, I just donated 25 to NAACP that gives to Act Blue

I don't get why there are 60 M Conserv and 65 M D it should be every Eday a 415 not 303 map

That's why I have a nut map we color by votes the maps not polls, Maps are blank on Eday


In 28 with a repeat of the 22 S map with Fetterman, Sara Rodriguez replacement of Johnson Harris and Moore are gonna be elected 3T
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« Reply #667 on: October 04, 2023, 03:44:01 AM »

I reject the premise that the GOP ran against Biden's economy in 2022. As far as I could tell all they were promising was to take people's rights away.
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« Reply #668 on: October 04, 2023, 04:15:03 AM »

Voters who cited the economy as the issue they voted on, voted for the GOP though. The GOP just lost on the major non economic issues of that election and Jan 6th and Dobbs made those issues more important then they usually are

That is how midterm campaigns are usually run though with the exception of 1994. Parties dont really present a platform at all.

In 2006, the Democrats just ran against the GOP record on Iraq without really giving their plans for it and won a huge wave

In 2010 and 2014, the GOP rode a wave of economic discontent to huge waves without really mentioning much of what they would do

In 2018 the Democrats won back the House based on anger with the GOP trying to repeal the ACA.

The GOP just effectively tried the same strategy as opposition parties used in the past 4 midterms, but Dobbs as well as Trumpist candidates denying the results of the 2020 election made election denialism a big issue as well.

In the past people knew what each party stood for, more or less. They still do for Democrats.
But Republicans now don't know what they stand for even themselves. I guess most of them stand for whatever the Great Leader decides: pro-business but also punishing them whenever they express opinions we don't like. Pro-military but also attacking military leaders who try to defend the constitution. Pro-rule of law unless the law goes after members of our party.
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« Reply #669 on: October 04, 2023, 04:37:36 AM »

Going to be fascinating to see who can get to 218 if there are multiple Reps doing stuff like this:
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« Reply #670 on: October 04, 2023, 05:38:18 AM »


Once again proving that the saying "republicans fall in line, democrats fall in love" has always been bullsh*t. It never even made sense anyway, the party which believes the government is bad would obviously always be the most anarchist of the two.
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« Reply #671 on: October 04, 2023, 05:57:38 AM »

I prefer a Congress where members vote what they/their constituents want instead of toeing the party line actually. What you might call dysfunction, I call democracy.
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« Reply #672 on: October 04, 2023, 07:48:22 AM »

Senator Kennedy:

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I don't have a lot of advice for my House colleagues other than this: Follow your heart, but take your brain with you. The American people expect us to govern, and in order to governs you have to have leadership, and you've got to stick with that leadership, to give that leadership a chance. I'd also advise all of my House colleagues to be sure and take their meds.

https://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/watch/-be-sure-and-take-their-meds-sen-john-kennedy-s-advice-for-house-gop-colleagues-194387525942
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« Reply #673 on: October 04, 2023, 07:59:28 AM »

Who would have the authority to lower the threshold to elect a new speaker if multiple rounds yield nothing?


I prefer a Congress where members vote what they/their constituents want instead of toeing the party line actually. What you might call dysfunction, I call democracy.

Do you dislike your school uniform that bad?
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« Reply #674 on: October 04, 2023, 08:35:52 AM »

I agree with the people who are saying this feels very Veep-ish. Especially the overall takeaway from all of this, which is that if you stand for nothing, you won't accomplish anything of note and be largely cast aside in the end.
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