SB 117-41: Constructing a new Capitol District - Passed
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« Reply #25 on: October 12, 2023, 12:06:27 AM »

No objections but if we’re going to move the Capitol, wouldn’t it make more sense to move it near Lebanon Kansas which is the geographical halfway point?

Why is the geographical center relevant? The capitol district is a political entity and the obvious neutral place to put it is at the tripoint of Atlasia's three important political entities.
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« Reply #26 on: October 12, 2023, 04:28:47 AM »

Us Iowans love it when Uncle Sam gets his hands on our fields to build a Pentagon on top of. Tongue

If you need land to build a new capital, ask states to donate land, like what Maryland and Virginia did on the Potomac. If this goes to referendum, the only people who should be allowed to vote should be Iowans, Missourians, and Illinoisans, as I don't know why someone from California or New York has a stake in it. I also assume plenty of civilians who live in Nyman, Central Maryland, and Northern Virginia would also oppose this law taking countless jobs away from the area, forcing those employed by the federal government and their families to move halfway across a continent because of "national unity" or something.

It's a cute idea, and it's something I've actually brought up in the past, but ultimately, the physical location of Nyman isn't a problem. So why fix it, and why do so in a way that infringes on the domain of three already existing states, one of which I hold very dear to my heart?
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« Reply #27 on: October 12, 2023, 01:58:35 PM »

Us Iowans love it when Uncle Sam gets his hands on our fields to build a Pentagon on top of. Tongue

If you need land to build a new capital, ask states to donate land, like what Maryland and Virginia did on the Potomac. If this goes to referendum, the only people who should be allowed to vote should be Iowans, Missourians, and Illinoisans, as I don't know why someone from California or New York has a stake in it. I also assume plenty of civilians who live in Nyman, Central Maryland, and Northern Virginia would also oppose this law taking countless jobs away from the area, forcing those employed by the federal government and their families to move halfway across a continent because of "national unity" or something.

It's a cute idea, and it's something I've actually brought up in the past, but ultimately, the physical location of Nyman isn't a problem. So why fix it, and why do so in a way that infringes on the domain of three already existing states, one of which I hold very dear to my heart?

The issue with the current location is based on where the regional lines are drawn, the capital is entirely taken from the land of one region. The fact that it is from 2 different states is not really relevant in this simulation since states only exist here insofar as the GM team cares to simulate them. With this new location, all three regions will share in the burden of hosting the Capital.
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« Reply #28 on: October 12, 2023, 02:12:30 PM »
« Edited: October 12, 2023, 02:15:39 PM by Laki »

This would probably stimulate Iowan economy.

Which grains would be the easiest and cheapest to import from towards the capital? Obviously the dairy states with Iowa on top. And food can also be transported from the capital towards Minneapolis area. Or exported to foreign countries via the Mississippi starting from the capital. It would boost economy a lot.

It's not much land that Iowa loses to the new capital and part of it is already urbanized in the town/city of Keokuk.

The new capital would easily link with Chicago/Milwaukee area, Minneapolis area, St. Louis Area, Des Moines, Kansas City, Cesar Rapids, Davenport, Fort Madison and Burlington as well as Peoria, Springfield and Indianapolis.

Besides the University of Des Moines would dramaticlaly increase in significance as it would be a good university for future government employees and specialize more into that direction.
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« Reply #29 on: October 12, 2023, 11:34:11 PM »

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« Reply #30 on: October 12, 2023, 11:36:51 PM »

motion for a final vote
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« Reply #31 on: October 13, 2023, 06:05:08 PM »

How much building a new capital would cost ?
This seems like such a big waste of money. It even needs to built a new airport!
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« Reply #32 on: October 13, 2023, 11:57:03 PM »

A final vote is beginning.

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« Reply #33 on: October 13, 2023, 11:58:08 PM »

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« Reply #34 on: October 14, 2023, 01:01:35 AM »

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« Reply #35 on: October 14, 2023, 05:48:20 AM »

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« Reply #36 on: October 14, 2023, 05:49:43 AM »

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« Reply #37 on: October 14, 2023, 11:12:57 AM »

How much building a new capital would cost ?
This seems like such a big waste of money. It even needs to built a new airport!

Actually it does not have to given the Keokuk Municipal Airport falls within the boundaries of the new capitol district.
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« Reply #38 on: October 14, 2023, 11:25:12 AM »

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« Reply #39 on: October 14, 2023, 12:13:55 PM »

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« Reply #40 on: October 14, 2023, 12:39:30 PM »

How much building a new capital would cost ?
This seems like such a big waste of money. It even needs to built a new airport!

Actually it does not have to given the Keokuk Municipal Airport falls within the boundaries of the new capitol district.

...This is a GA airport. Its runways are too small for any 737 variant to land. Upgrading this to a sufficient international facility is essentially the same as building one from scratch; almost nothing from the original airport will be usable here.
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« Reply #41 on: October 14, 2023, 03:16:41 PM »

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« Reply #42 on: October 14, 2023, 04:11:21 PM »

How much building a new capital would cost ?
This seems like such a big waste of money. It even needs to built a new airport!

Actually it does not have to given the Keokuk Municipal Airport falls within the boundaries of the new capitol district.

...This is a GA airport. Its runways are too small for any 737 variant to land. Upgrading this to a sufficient international facility is essentially the same as building one from scratch; almost nothing from the original airport will be usable here.

Well obviously this will require some investments but again



This is a location that could use a big airport and it would boost local economy.

And it's not like we can't afford it.
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« Reply #43 on: October 14, 2023, 07:42:40 PM »

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« Reply #44 on: October 14, 2023, 11:56:46 PM »

All I can say, as the one person who cares about the budget, is:

Not bailing out whichever administration inevitably causes our surplus to vanish because "it's not like we can't afford" any of the 120 other things we'll be allocating boatloads of cash to in the meantime! Wink
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« Reply #45 on: October 15, 2023, 02:08:24 AM »

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« Reply #46 on: October 15, 2023, 04:24:03 AM »

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« Reply #47 on: October 15, 2023, 08:02:17 AM »

All I can say, as the one person who cares about the budget, is:

Not bailing out whichever administration inevitably causes our surplus to vanish because "it's not like we can't afford" any of the 120 other things we'll be allocating boatloads of cash to in the meantime! Wink

Well, the reasons why we have to move the capital have been stated before. Will this require a cost, yes. Obviously. And sure, we do have to be careful with budget

But the goal of a government should be to invest so that people / the government can even get wealthier and have bigger returns. No investment and no spending is stagnation.

We are running a surplus of $1044.28 Billion. What happens with that money? It should be spent. It's not healthy for an economy to have that much reserve. No government globally does that.
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« Reply #48 on: October 15, 2023, 08:24:42 AM »

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« Reply #49 on: October 16, 2023, 08:10:29 AM »

All I can say, as the one person who cares about the budget, is:

Not bailing out whichever administration inevitably causes our surplus to vanish because "it's not like we can't afford" any of the 120 other things we'll be allocating boatloads of cash to in the meantime! Wink

Well, the reasons why we have to move the capital have been stated before. Will this require a cost, yes. Obviously. And sure, we do have to be careful with budget

But the goal of a government should be to invest so that people / the government can even get wealthier and have bigger returns. No investment and no spending is stagnation.

We are running a surplus of $1044.28 Billion. What happens with that money? It should be spent. It's not healthy for an economy to have that much reserve. No government globally does that.

If we want to dwindle the surplus I'd rather we return it to the people in the form of tax cuts and rebates rather than follies like relocating the entire government.
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