The Queen's Death--1 Year Later

[Alben Barkley]

It's truly sad that Cromwell couldn't finish the job. At least support for abolition has grown a bit recently.

Cromwell was much, much worse.

[John Dule]

Literally who cares? This affects nothing.

Why the hostility?

I'm an American.

The queen literally broke centuries of protocol by doing this

Wow cool. It would’ve been nice if she’d also broken protocol by holding her pedophile son responsible for raping numerous women.

[LBJer]

It's truly sad that Cromwell couldn't finish the job.

I take it you're not Irish.

[Sumner 1868]

It's truly sad that Cromwell couldn't finish the job.

I take it you're not Irish.

My great-grandparents (my maternal grandfather's parents) were from Kerry and died without ever getting U.S. citizenship despite living in western Montana for the last half-century of their lives. But I was referring to Cromwell's toppling of the monarchy in any case.

[Alben Barkley]

It's truly sad that Cromwell couldn't finish the job.

I take it you're not Irish.

My great-grandparents (my maternal grandfather's parents) were from Kerry and died without ever getting U.S. citizenship despite living in western Montana for the last half-century of their lives. But I was referring to Cromwell's toppling of the monarchy in any case.

Supporting Cromwell for "toppling the monarchy" is like supporting Mussolini for taking power from the King. Just because it's a monarchy doesn't mean the alternative isn't even worse. Sometimes much worse.

[Aurelius2]

It's truly sad that Cromwell couldn't finish the job.

I take it you're not Irish.

My great-grandparents (my maternal grandfather's parents) were from Kerry and died without ever getting U.S. citizenship despite living in western Montana for the last half-century of their lives. But I was referring to Cromwell's toppling of the monarchy in any case.

Supporting Cromwell for "toppling the monarchy" is like supporting Mussolini for taking power from the King. Just because it's a monarchy doesn't mean the alternative isn't even worse. Sometimes much worse.

Whenever I look at the 17th century English conflicts from the English perspective I find myself thinking of everyone involved as basically insufferable at best and heinous at worst, but having a bit more sympathy with the parliamentarians. But then my Irish side takes over and I start fantasizing about Cromwell rotting in hell.

[Blair]

It had been an open secret that she was unwell and then by her jubilee it became obvious to those who know how to read between the lines of our rather ‘unique’ press commentary on the royals.

For most people with grandparents that age she took a pretty similar trajectory- she deserves credit for still being ready to sack Mr Blobby if needed when he was having his meltdown. For that she will have my enteral appreciation.

[Silent Hunter]

I still find it strange seeing references to KCs on the news.

[CumbrianLefty]

Wow cool. It would’ve been nice if she’d also broken protocol by holding her pedophile son responsible for raping numerous women.

It is indeed unfortunate that Andrew was always her "favourite" child.

[MABA 2020]

I wonder how long until I don't find it strange that we have a King not a Queen

[Republican Party Stalwart]

It's truly sad that Cromwell couldn't finish the job.

I take it you're not Irish.

My great-grandparents (my maternal grandfather's parents) were from Kerry and died without ever getting U.S. citizenship despite living in western Montana for the last half-century of their lives. But I was referring to Cromwell's toppling of the monarchy in any case.

Supporting Cromwell for "toppling the monarchy" is like supporting Mussolini for taking power from the King. Just because it's a monarchy doesn't mean the alternative isn't even worse. Sometimes much worse.

Without Oliver Cromwell, there would have been no British Whiggism as we know it; without that historical development, there would be no Thomas Jefferson, no James Madison, no Andrew Jackson, no Martin Van Buren, no Stephen Douglas, no Samuel Tilden, no Grover Cleveland, no William Jennings Bryan, no Woodrow Wilson, no FDR, no Harry S Truman, no Kennedys (Jack, Bobby, or Ted), no LBJ, no Jimmy Carter, no Bill Clinton, no Al Gore, no Joe Biden, and no Barack Obama (at least, not as we knew any of them).

Of course, I have no particular great love for any of those aforementioned Americans. But my understanding is that you do, KYWildman. (Not to mention that great figures from the other side of the American Overton Window - George Washington, Abraham Lincoln, Theodore Roosevelt, Alexander Hamilton, and Henry Clay - also owe their existence as we know them in part to Cromwell).

It's truly sad that Cromwell couldn't finish the job.

I take it you're not Irish.

My great-grandparents (my maternal grandfather's parents) were from Kerry and died without ever getting U.S. citizenship despite living in western Montana for the last half-century of their lives. But I was referring to Cromwell's toppling of the monarchy in any case.

Supporting Cromwell for "toppling the monarchy" is like supporting Mussolini for taking power from the King. Just because it's a monarchy doesn't mean the alternative isn't even worse. Sometimes much worse.

Whenever I look at the 17th century English conflicts from the English perspective I find myself thinking of everyone involved as basically insufferable at best and heinous at worst, but having a bit more sympathy with the parliamentarians. But then my Irish side takes over and I start fantasizing about Cromwell rotting in hell.

The duality of the Catholic "Irish American."

[Republican Party Stalwart]

Honestly, when she was pronounced dead, I was already prepared to see her go. Notwithstanding the already-noticeable accumulating issues with her health, as a recreational student of history and geopolitics I recognized that despite her long reign, her death was as inevitable as the deaths of Louis XIV of France and Sobhuza II of eSwatini were following their longer reigns. I never bought into the facetious commentary by my peers or elders about her being "immortal."

For me, the "weird" part is not the fact that she's gone, but the fact that the UK's monarch is now "King Charles III." The man was a public political figure in the international media and press for my entire childhood and adolescence - i.e. my formative years - and so despite my usual habit of conservative deference to authority and respect for decorum, he's still just "Prince Charles" to me.

I still find it strange seeing references to KCs on the news.

I wonder how long until I don't find it strange that we have a King not a Queen

Beat me to it.

It still feels unreal that she's not here.

For some reason it feels like her reign was a lifetime ago for me. Interesting perception.

Yeah; the sum total of everything that happened (geopolitically and otherwise) in 2020 and 2021 alone, not to mention 2022 up to the moment of her death, will certainly do that to you.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Honestly, when she was pronounced dead, I was already prepared to see her go. Notwithstanding the already-noticeable accumulating issues with her health, as a recreational student of history and geopolitics I recognized that despite her long reign, her death was as inevitable as the deaths of Louis XIV of France and Sobhuza II of eSwatini were following their longer reigns. I never bought into the facetious commentary by my peers or elders about her being "immortal."

You need to study history and geopolitics to realize that death is inevitable? All you had to do was ask OC.

[Republican Party Stalwart]

You need to study history and geopolitics to realize that death is inevitable? All you had to do was ask OC.

Forgive me, but ask who? I'm still relatively new here.

[Antonio the Sixth]

You need to study history and geopolitics to realize that death is inevitable? All you had to do was ask OC.

Forgive me, but ask who? I'm still relatively new here.

The man, the myth, the legend, the great sage of Atlas.

Death is inevitable

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I wonder how long until I don't find it strange that we have a King not a Queen

The funniest thing was someone saying "Charles is Queen now?"

[Conservatopia]

I wonder how long until I don't find it strange that we have a King not a Queen

The funniest thing was someone saying "Charles is Queen now?"

The UK is so woke that the new Queen is a man, smh

[CumbrianLefty]

It is the monarch we deserve

[Republican Party Stalwart]

You need to study history and geopolitics to realize that death is inevitable? All you had to do was ask OC.

Forgive me, but ask who? I'm still relatively new here.

The man, the myth, the legend, the great sage of Atlas.

Death is inevitable

Thanks.