Who's going to be the first to succesfully land humans on Mars?

[LAKISYLVANIA]

New poll

(it's possible of course it's going to be a cooperation, including rocketry from private space industry in combination with a national space agency) and that the answer is going to be more complex than that. But yeah.

A multi-country organisation (joint NASA/ESA, joint Japan/ESA, etc) are all options as well too.

[CumbrianLefty]

Duchy of Grand Fenwick, of course

[Bismarck]

China would be my guess

[dead0man]

SPaceX/NASA

[Middle-aged Europe]

Joint US/Europe/Japan mission with at least partial use of SpaceX and Blue Origin infrastructure.

Which is essentially the basis the ISS (if we ignore that Russia is also still included here) and Artemis programs are operating on already.

It's unrealistic to assume that any single of these entities would do it individually, with maybe the possible exception of SpaceX or China, but even then it is a long shot.

I mean for what reason would NASA/the US do it alone and pass up the opportunity to cut costs on such a monumental project, as well as strengthening political cooperation with allies?

[patzer]

NASA technical infrastructure and mission, transported to Mars via SpaceX Starship rocket+booster on contract.

[Meclazine for Israel]

Elon Musk will go there as the first person, and most likely die there.

All of his companies work is well suited to the surface (and subsurface) of Mars.

[FT-02 Senator A.F.E. 🇵🇸🤝🇺🇸🤝🇺🇦]

Pakistan

[MATTROSE94]

China or Iran.

[America Needs a 13-6 Progressive SCOTUS]

Write in: Its never going to happen, so nobody gets to be 1st.

[Person Man]

There really isn’t a reason to go like there was for the Moon. It will probably be easier to make it to the asteroid belt once they have rockets big enough to get there in a reasonable amount of time.

[Angel of Death]

The idea of having manned missions to the atmosphere of Venus (first) seems like a much more sensible one.

[MATTROSE94]

There really isn’t a reason to go like there was for the Moon. It will probably be easier to make it to the asteroid belt once they have rockets big enough to get there in a reasonable amount of time.

Mars seems to have ruins of an ancient civilization on it that went extinct millions of years ago according to John Brandenburg and Joe McMoneagle, so maybe it will be cool to explore. We couldn’t glean too much from the ruins of the old Martian civilization though, as the language is untranslatable.

[dead0man]

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[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

What does "successfully" mean?"

My guess is something along these lines:
https://www.badspacecomics.com/post/free-mars

[SnowLabrador]

China, they're a lot more innovative than we are.

[Aurelius2]

China, they're a lot more innovative than we are.

roflmao

[S019]

The idea of having manned missions to the atmosphere of Venus (first) seems like a much more sensible one.

The climate and conditions are far too harsh there to justify it unless you just want to land people and have them then leave without even stepping foot on the planet.

[Silent Hunter]

The idea of having manned missions to the atmosphere of Venus (first) seems like a much more sensible one.

The climate and conditions are far too harsh there to justify it unless you just want to land people and have them then leave without even stepping foot on the planet.

The unmanned probes on there have been fried pretty quickly.

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

The idea of having manned missions to the atmosphere of Venus (first) seems like a much more sensible one.

The climate and conditions are far too harsh there to justify it unless you just want to land people and have them then leave without even stepping foot on the planet.

The unmanned probes on there have been fried pretty quickly.

I think they're talking about what would effectively be a manned balloon in the Venusian atmosphere. The ground is incredibly inhospitable because the atmosphere is so dense, but I seem to recall that there are altitudes that are practically shirt-sleeve conditions in comparion.

[Stand With Israel. Crush Hamas]

It'll probably be a joint NASA/private enterprise mission. If it looks like anyone else (read: China) is getting close, the US infrastructure will kick into overdrive to beat them, because there's no guarantee that anyone else will be allowed to land once China gets there. And the US has a far superior tech infrastructure for something like this, even if they've basically let it languish for a while.

[Senator Incitatus]

I have already done this but I am a private person.

[dead0man]

The idea of having manned missions to the atmosphere of Venus (first) seems like a much more sensible one.

The climate and conditions are far too harsh there to justify it unless you just want to land people and have them then leave without even stepping foot on the planet.

The unmanned probes on there have been fried pretty quickly.

I think they're talking about what would effectively be a manned balloon in the Venusian atmosphere. The ground is incredibly inhospitable because the atmosphere is so dense, but I seem to recall that there are altitudes that are practically shirt-sleeve conditions in comparion.

sure, but to what end?  What would be the point of going through all the trouble and expense of figuring out how to live in the clouds of Venus when just generally living in open space is easier?  And if open space isn't good enough, there are probably a thousand places in the Solar System that would be easier for humans to live on.

[CumbrianLefty]

Maybe easier if we could actually get there, which is just a teeny bit problematic at present you know.

[Samof94]

China because they don’t care about human rights and would want the glory for themselves.