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Question: Which TL should I do?
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Hearsts and Bull Mooses
 
#2
Troubling Times
 
#3
Buchananica - A Very, Very Different 1980s
 
#4
In Came the Patriots
 
#5
The Moon Over the White House
 
#6
America's Finest Mayor
 
#7
From Ruins, A Lion Emerges
 
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« on: August 21, 2023, 02:05:31 PM »
« edited: August 21, 2023, 03:28:46 PM by Huey Long is a Republican »

because I have a very bad attention span, I now have several TL ideas, all of which I want to do in the style ChairmanSanchez's TL, so which one should I do in your opinion from the Descriptions given :

1) Hearsts and Bull Mooses : In 1916, William Randolph Hearst is the Progressive Party Nominee, costing Wilson the Presidential Election. From there, eventually, Robert La Follette and eventually William Foster became President, eventually leading to a 33 year civil war starting in 1935.

2) Troubling Times : OTL 1968 was a very difficult year for the United States with the assassination of Robert Kennedy and MLK Jr., the rising animosity to the Vietnam War, a soft economic depression occurring, etc, etc. In this TL, things get even worse as Nixon dies in a plane crash in 1966 before he can run for President and Humphrey is revealed to have cancer much earlier than otl, forcing both out of the political scene. Because of this, the 1972 Primaries in both primaries are fiercer and wind up with the Democrats nominating the southern, relatively moderate Dan Moore for President and Phillip Hart for Vice President while the Republicans nominate the Liberal Nelson Rockefeller of New York for President and Spiro Agnew (OTL initially a Rockefeller supporter until Rocky dropped out) for Vice President all the while George Wallace still runs with his VP being Ezra Taft Benson of Utah over Curtis LeMay. However, the nominations don't go over well and the Conservatives, who nominate California State Senator John G. Schmitz for President and Activist Jesse Helms of North Carolina for Vice President while the more left wing elements of the Democratic Party leave and nominate McCarthy for President and McGovern for Vice President. At the same time, the three new tickets encourage supporters of their tickets to run for office under the Progressive/Conservative/American Independent Parties across the nation and vote for those candidates to have their voices heard in the Senate and the House. The result is a deadlocked Senate where, surprisingly, it is Schmitz, McCarthy, and Wallace who go on to the House while it is Helms and Bensen who go to the Senate. Further complicating matters, the House and Senate is divided with no Majority for anyone in the Senate and no control of a majority of House Delegations. This also means there is no House Speaker and President Pro Tempore Emeritus elected. No Compromise is reached and on January 20th, no one takes the oath of office as the cabinet as not been nominated by a President, there is no PPT or Speaker, and there is no Vice President or President. Thus, the United States is now in a crisis of the Government. Be Prepared for trouble in a worse end of the 60s and beyond.

3) Buchananica - A Very, Very Different 1980s : In 1974, Pat Buchanan was offered the position of Ambassador to South Africa. Here, It is Nixon who offers him the position, in 1970 (though he remains a close aide and confidant of Nixon and goes with him to China, Moscow, Minsk, and Yalta in Nixon's terms. In 1974, Pat Buchanan left the Ambassadorship and he ran for Governor, winning the race and becoming an extreme Old Right Conservative by 1978 and a Republican star who is young and charismatic. In 1980, Buchanan became the VP choice for Reagan as he greatly outruns Bush and then Reagan is assassinated in 1981, leaving Buchanan as President.

4) In Came the Patriots : Dukakis wins the 1988 Election and does moderately as decent as President, though in an effort to be seen as strong means he invades Iraq during the Gulf War. In 1992, Bob Dole was the obvious front runner Republican but a new person runs in the Election under a third party to bring excitement, being Donald Trump. He wins the Election with a decent amount of support in Congress. Watch the journey of the 90s Trump Presidency and the Patriot Party as they move to eventually replace the Republican Party as the American Mainstream Right-wing Party.

5) The Moon Over the White House : Paul Tsongas dies in 1991 and as a result, Jerry Brown becomes President and from there, an even worse 90s and 00s occurs from this, including Presidents Ron Kunz and Matthew Heimbach.

6) America's Finest Mayor : In 1984, Richard Carlson, father of Tucker Carlson, ran for Mayor of San Diego, losing to Mayor Hedgecock by 15.8%. Here, however, Carlson runs a better campaign and wins the 84 and 88 races while in 90, Wilson loses the Gubernatorial Race to John van de Kamp . In 1994, Carlson, now a successful and well liked Conservative Mayor who left office in 93 runs for Governor of California in 1994 and wins and in 2000, he runs for President after two successful conservative terms. Watch as the elder Carlson runs for actual political office and acts as President.

7) From Ruins, A Lion Emerges : In 2020, the Republicans manage to keep the Senate and win back the House though they lose the Presidency. In 2021, with a greatly demoralized Democratic Party, Republicans do better, and then 2022 sees Republicans do as expected if not better than expected after Trump is assassinated while giving a speech at a rally in Pennsylvania. In 2024, Biden beats DeSantis but loses the Popular Vote. Then, during 2026, the economy finally collapses after warning signs throughout the 2020s and mixed in with the Social Security Crash, a third great depression emerges and from there, Josh Hawley takes control of the GOP and, leading the 7th Party system, and becomes the new lion of the United States.

What are your favorites, which one did you choose, and why?
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