Is the Democratic coalition becoming more conservative?
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« Reply #25 on: January 13, 2024, 05:02:53 PM »

To the extent that is visible, that is largely because much of the Democratic Party's strength in the Trump era (and likely after him -MAGA isn't going anywhere) has shifted to suburbia, which very helpfully counteracts the occasionally extremist/strident impulses of urban leftwing activists who have an unfortunate tendency of letting their passions get the better of them.  Energy and vision is a good thing (hence why I value the latter), but moderation is key to winning elections and getting stuff done.  So I think we have the best of both worlds here if we play our cards right.    
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« Reply #26 on: January 13, 2024, 11:34:26 PM »

While the Democratic coalition is definitely becoming more conservative in some ways, what has surprised me is how these conservative newcomers are much more open to left-wing policy ideas than you might expect.

For example if you look at ballot measures on income taxes, school funding, healthcare, or other tax and spending proposals you might expect an inverse correlation between support and income, but instead we have seen in the past decade that these conservative suburbs are much more open to taxes and government spending than lower income areas in rural or exurban regions.

Examples: Oklahoma Question 802 - most support came from higher income urban / suburban areas, not the rural or small town areas that are most likely to benefit from the Medicare expansion
Missouri Amendment 2 - similar Medicare expansion measure with similar patterns

Anecdotally I've noticed that many of these Romney-Clinton voters have shifted to the left on a lot of key issues with more openness to healthcare expansion, social services, education funding, and especially on social issues like anti-racism, lgbt support, even when they might be regular churchgoers. It's as if the Trump era accelerated cultural progressivism for some of these people because Trump (and the Republican party as a whole lately) has created such a strong foil.

That all being said - as we have seen with Democrats in power there is no stomach for significant policy changes on the economic from as we observed with the death of Build Back Better.

In what ways DO you think the Democratic coalition is becoming more conservative?

Openness to funding the military / funding war, policing speech, and free trade. Also generally less anti-corporate rhetoric.
Free trade-ism is dead in both parties at this point.

Which is a shame, because the old bipartisan concensus was unequivocally right.
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« Reply #27 on: January 13, 2024, 11:39:53 PM »

Both parties have moved far to the right in recent years. Republicans because of Trump and Democrats in reaction to Trump. The Republicans have gone from a pseudo libertarian party to outright fascism. The Democrats have basically gone from having all these progressive demands to just begging to preserve democracy.
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