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TommyC1776
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« on: April 13, 2007, 04:13:08 PM »

How come throughout history the Democrats, have done pretty well in those Northern states as compared with the other ones?
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« Reply #1 on: April 13, 2007, 08:24:22 PM »

Actually Pennsylvania was a hugely Republican state until FDR.
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« Reply #2 on: April 13, 2007, 11:40:24 PM »

Actually Pennsylvania was a hugely Republican state until FDR.

That's true... Pennsylvania almost always voted Republican... In fact, they chose Hoover over Roosevelt... FDR's pro-labor policies ushered in a Democratic trend... This state will vote Republican still, but not as often as it used to... Right now, Democrats outnumber Republicans by a thin margain... Depends on who shows in this state.
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« Reply #3 on: April 14, 2007, 09:57:32 PM »

Actually Pennsylvania was a hugely Republican state until FDR.

Well actually u are right.  their were a few exceptions in the 1800's though.  Then how come it was just NY in the North doing good for the Dems mostly then any other Northern state?  Actually I think the Dems held on to Florida and NY for most of this countries history.  Florida is now a Republican state, though.
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« Reply #4 on: April 14, 2007, 10:02:00 PM »

Then how come it was just NY in the North doing good for the Dems mostly then any other Northern state?

That can be answered in two words: Tammany Hall.
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« Reply #5 on: April 14, 2007, 10:10:42 PM »

Then how come it was just NY in the North doing good for the Dems mostly then any other Northern state?

That can be answered in two words: Tammany Hall.

o. ok.  i c.  yeah.  so it was a Secret Society kinda?
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« Reply #6 on: April 14, 2007, 10:11:30 PM »

Then how come it was just NY in the North doing good for the Dems mostly then any other Northern state?

That can be answered in two words: Tammany Hall.

or wait maybe it wasn;t secret.
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« Reply #7 on: April 14, 2007, 10:49:52 PM »

Then how come it was just NY in the North doing good for the Dems mostly then any other Northern state?

That can be answered in two words: Tammany Hall.

or wait maybe it wasn;t secret.

Well no... Tammany ran the New York party... Also, Democrats liked to pick New Yorkers such as Horatio Seymour, Horace Greeley, Samuel J. Tilden, and Grover Cleveland.
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« Reply #8 on: April 16, 2007, 08:13:43 PM »

The Democrats did rather poorly in the north throughout history.  If you look at presidential elections from 1856 to 1928, the Republicans easily outperformed Democrats in the north while the "Solid South" almost always went overwhelmingly Democrat.  If you look at the election of 1916, for example, the strongest support for Wilson (Democrat) was in the south with ever stronger Republican support as you went north.

It wasn't until Roosevelt (1932) that Democrats won the north, and that was because it was a landslide, and even then Roosevelt performed rather poorly in New England.  During the 1950s and '60s it began to turn around and it wasn't until the 1990s really that the north became the Democratic stronghold while the south has become a Republican stronghold.  We're still seeing these trends today as the Northeast continues to purge Republicans from office while the opposite is occurring in the south.
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« Reply #9 on: April 16, 2007, 08:28:22 PM »

The Democrats did rather poorly in the north throughout history.  If you look at presidential elections from 1856 to 1928, the Republicans easily outperformed Democrats in the north while the "Solid South" almost always went overwhelmingly Democrat.  If you look at the election of 1916, for example, the strongest support for Wilson (Democrat) was in the south with ever stronger Republican support as you went north.

It wasn't until Roosevelt (1932) that Democrats won the north, and that was because it was a landslide, and even then Roosevelt performed rather poorly in New England.  During the 1950s and '60s it began to turn around and it wasn't until the 1990s really that the north became the Democratic stronghold while the south has become a Republican stronghold.  We're still seeing these trends today as the Northeast continues to purge Republicans from office while the opposite is occurring in the south.

I know that but NY was sometimes an exception.
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