Counties with over 100,000 residents that vote more than 60% for either party, 2020
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« on: August 17, 2023, 03:13:16 PM »
« edited: August 17, 2023, 07:21:27 PM by CookieDamage »



Might have missed a few counties but yeah, really shows how vote-rich exurbs and outer suburbs are for the GOP, and why they are so competitive/dominant in states like Ohio, Texas, and NC.
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« Reply #1 on: August 17, 2023, 05:03:21 PM »

Definitely shows why NC has been such a tough nut to crack for federal Democrats.
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« Reply #2 on: August 17, 2023, 07:03:26 PM »

Definitely shows why NC has been such a tough nut to crack for federal Democrats.

Right, the stretch from Catawba to Randolph alone nets the GOP 300k votes
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« Reply #3 on: August 17, 2023, 07:23:27 PM »



The Dem version. Dem's dominate urban cores/inner suburbs, contrasting with the GOP dominance with outer suburbs and exurbs.



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And here's one with both parties. And I'm assuming I missed a few lol.

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« Reply #4 on: August 17, 2023, 11:52:25 PM »

Challenged myself to recall the names of all these counties and county-equivalents from memory. This is what I got.

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108/123

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78/153
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« Reply #5 on: August 19, 2023, 05:34:10 PM »

Crazy how Hillary got 60% in both Miami-Dade and Osceola counties in 2016 but Biden failed to do so in both
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« Reply #6 on: August 21, 2023, 10:56:43 AM »

Might have missed a few counties but yeah, really shows how vote-rich exurbs and outer suburbs are for the GOP, and why they are so competitive/dominant in states like Ohio, Texas, and NC.
Many people think that Texas votes Republican because of rural areas. While yes, Texas has a lot of rural areas, and they are VERY Republican, they're also very sparsely populated, and the actual reason for the GOP's domination of the state is that it wins the exurban counties and those with small cities, and it doesn't even have to do so overwhelmingly.
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« Reply #7 on: August 22, 2023, 07:24:25 AM »

Might have missed a few counties but yeah, really shows how vote-rich exurbs and outer suburbs are for the GOP, and why they are so competitive/dominant in states like Ohio, Texas, and NC.
Many people think that Texas votes Republican because of rural areas. While yes, Texas has a lot of rural areas, and they are VERY Republican, they're also very sparsely populated, and the actual reason for the GOP's domination of the state is that it wins the exurban counties and those with small cities, and it doesn't even have to do so overwhelmingly.

Exactly. I don't have exact numbers but the DFW exurbs, Montgomery and Brazoria counties, and Tom Green, Lubbock, Potter, and Randall counties net tons of votes for the GOP.
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« Reply #8 on: August 22, 2023, 09:06:40 PM »



Trump netted 1,100,000 votes from the dark red counties, which comprise 3,800,000 million people altogether. If you took these counties out and left the remaining deep-red rural counties in, Texas would very narrowly vote blue by a 10,000 vote margin.
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« Reply #9 on: August 22, 2023, 09:24:17 PM »

If you took these counties out and left the remaining deep-red rural counties in, Texas would very narrowly vote blue by a 10,000 vote margin.

Yeah, even though the blue area includes the RGV, that's more than canceled out by suburban swings. Flipping Zapata but losing Tarrant and Williamson is a terrible trade for the GOP. Even if Trump becomes the first ever Republican to win Starr, there's a real chance Biden wins Collin and maybe even Denton.
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« Reply #10 on: August 22, 2023, 09:45:04 PM »

If you took these counties out and left the remaining deep-red rural counties in, Texas would very narrowly vote blue by a 10,000 vote margin.

Yeah, even though the blue area includes the RGV, that's more than canceled out by suburban swings. Flipping Zapata but losing Tarrant and Williamson is a terrible trade for the GOP. Even if Trump becomes the first ever Republican to win Starr, there's a real chance Biden wins Collin and maybe even Denton.

People very much overstate the importance of the RGV. It has 1.7 mil people (by a liberal definition), compared to 1.9 mil for Colin and Denton alone.  Throw in Tarrant, Williamson, Hays, and Fort Bend, that's 1.7 mil compared to 5.7 mil, all trending towards Dems.
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« Reply #11 on: August 23, 2023, 02:00:20 AM »

I’m guessing that Virginia’s screwy independent city system probably reduces some of the (non-Atlas) blue there?
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« Reply #12 on: August 23, 2023, 08:39:56 AM »

I’m guessing that Virginia’s screwy independent city system probably reduces some of the (non-Atlas) blue there?

Yes, effectively. There were a lot of very red counties that just missed the 100k pop because of independent cities that were also rather red.
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« Reply #13 on: August 23, 2023, 08:53:45 AM »

If you took these counties out and left the remaining deep-red rural counties in, Texas would very narrowly vote blue by a 10,000 vote margin.

Yeah, even though the blue area includes the RGV, that's more than canceled out by suburban swings. Flipping Zapata but losing Tarrant and Williamson is a terrible trade for the GOP. Even if Trump becomes the first ever Republican to win Starr, there's a real chance Biden wins Collin and maybe even Denton.

People very much overstate the importance of the RGV. It has 1.7 mil people (by a liberal definition), compared to 1.9 mil for Colin and Denton alone.  Throw in Tarrant, Williamson, Hays, and Fort Bend, that's 1.7 mil compared to 5.7 mil, all trending towards Dems.

Plus the RGV still actually does vote Democratic.
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« Reply #14 on: August 25, 2023, 05:40:02 PM »

If you took these counties out and left the remaining deep-red rural counties in, Texas would very narrowly vote blue by a 10,000 vote margin.

Yeah, even though the blue area includes the RGV, that's more than canceled out by suburban swings. Flipping Zapata but losing Tarrant and Williamson is a terrible trade for the GOP. Even if Trump becomes the first ever Republican to win Starr, there's a real chance Biden wins Collin and maybe even Denton.

I think I read on here that the Dem gains in Bexar alone cancelled out the GOP gains in the RGV
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« Reply #15 on: August 25, 2023, 07:01:55 PM »

If you took these counties out and left the remaining deep-red rural counties in, Texas would very narrowly vote blue by a 10,000 vote margin.

Yeah, even though the blue area includes the RGV, that's more than canceled out by suburban swings. Flipping Zapata but losing Tarrant and Williamson is a terrible trade for the GOP. Even if Trump becomes the first ever Republican to win Starr, there's a real chance Biden wins Collin and maybe even Denton.

People very much overstate the importance of the RGV. It has 1.7 mil people (by a liberal definition), compared to 1.9 mil for Colin and Denton alone.  Throw in Tarrant, Williamson, Hays, and Fort Bend, that's 1.7 mil compared to 5.7 mil, all trending towards Dems.
RGV looks huge on a map. That plays into this.
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« Reply #16 on: August 26, 2023, 12:02:52 PM »

What about under 100,000 for Dems?

Surely it's not just ski country.
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« Reply #17 on: August 26, 2023, 12:25:41 PM »
« Edited: August 26, 2023, 12:30:46 PM by Roll Roons »

What about under 100,000 for Dems?

Surely it's not just ski country.

A bunch of Black-majority counties in the South, a handful of Hispanic-majority ones on or near the border, some in New England and on the West Coast, some that are home to reservations, and probably at least a couple college town counties.
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« Reply #18 on: August 26, 2023, 11:46:30 PM »

The first map is missing Lubbock. Also Taylor County (Abilene) and Gregg County (Longview).
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« Reply #19 on: August 27, 2023, 01:23:51 PM »

The first map is missing Lubbock. Also Taylor County (Abilene) and Gregg County (Longview).

Good catch!
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« Reply #20 on: August 28, 2023, 11:40:56 PM »

In the process of making my own map, I noticed a few more that are missing from the first one:

-Calhoun County, AL
-Limestone County, AL
-Hanover County, VA
-Cecil County, MD
-Butler County, PA
-Lebanon County, PA
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« Reply #21 on: August 28, 2023, 11:51:25 PM »
« Edited: August 29, 2023, 06:00:35 PM by NorCalifornio »

What about under 100,000 for Dems?

Surely it's not just ski country.

Here's what I got:



Closeup of Virginia:



Honestly not as many as I expected. Unsurprisingly, most fall into the categories Roll Roons came up with. The independent cities of Virginia are well represented, which makes sense. Also difficult to see are Broomfield County, CO; Bristol County, RI; Newport County, RI; and San Juan County, WA.

Atlas doesn't have county-equivalent data for Alaska, but I'm sure some Native-majority census areas would make the cut.

EDIT: Can anybody see the images? Since I can't, here's the bare links, they seem to work:
Whole country: https://imgur.com/a/xqKAqf1
Virginia closeup: https://imgur.com/a/FL6Y7MC
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